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kimson
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Royal Horsing Ground
Insane since: Jan 2005

IP logged posted posted 05-17-2007 12:47 Edit Quote

Ok stop me here if I am in the wrong forum.

I would like some tips or advice from you guys on how to get my dream job... It really seems so hard to go from A to B, I really don't know where to start...

So here is what A is like:

1. In-house graphic designer
2. No graphic design team, so no other creative person to evolve with (my biggest issue)
3. Very little to no career prospects as there is no way I would (like to) do the job of the three other people in the company - one of them being the CEO
4. Very average wages, but could be ok if above was different

And here is what B sounds like, ideally:

1. A very creative role
2. Hands-on not necessary - consulting or director would be perfect
3. Team work and contact with other creative people
4. Young, fun, exciting environment

So... I am quite desperate at the moment, because I think you can only go from A to B with either or all of the following:

- Degrees in business management and/or marketing
- A "breath-taking" portfolio
- Networking
- Luck, charisma, long legs and/or big mouth

So how do you get there? Here is an example of something that would just make me so happy but I know for a fact they will get a giggling fit if they read my CV

Any words of reason here?

Cheers

(Edited by kimson on 05-17-2007 12:48)

Lord_Fukutoku
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: San Antonio
Insane since: Jul 2002

IP logged posted posted 05-17-2007 15:14 Edit Quote
quote:
So how do you get there? Here is an example of something that would just make me so happy but I know for a fact they will get a giggling fit if they read my CV



My only words of reason would be to get past that attitude. Unless someone just hands you your job, you'll never get it unless you do throw your CV out there, regardless of what you think might happen. The worst that could happen is they reply saying "Thanks, but no thanks."

Do lots and lots of searching too. Not just in a couple job databases, but anywhere and everywhere you can think of. If there's places you find that aren't too far away, try and go talk to people there. Every job you see available and every person you talk to gets you a step closer.

I'm afraid I don't have too much more advice though... Good luck finding the job you want

--

Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature.

kimson
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Royal Horsing Ground
Insane since: Jan 2005

IP logged posted posted 05-17-2007 16:52 Edit Quote
quote:

Lord_Fukutoku said:

Good luck finding the job you want


Thank you very much

quote:

Lord_Fukutoku said:

My only words of reason would be to get past that attitude.


This was just a desperate comment... I don't normally hesitate to send my CV to anyone; even if I think my chances are low I still put a lot of effort in the application. In fact I must have applied for vacancies at the BBC twice in the past

Thanks for your advice Lord_Fukutoku

______________________________________

The Fat Controller is gonna get you in the end.

twItch^
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Denver, CO, USA
Insane since: Aug 2000

IP logged posted posted 05-17-2007 17:38 Edit Quote
quote:

kimson said:
So... I am quite desperate at the moment, because I think you can only go from A to B with either or all of the following:

- Degrees in business management and/or marketing
- A "breath-taking" portfolio
- Networking
- Luck, charisma, long legs and/or big mouth



Welcome to the world of business. You can either get the job based off your own merits, which would be totally insane in this day and age, or you do so through talking to people. So ... talk to people. Or develop your "breath-taking" portfolio. The degree is less important now than it ever has been, and it's been falling with each day that passes.

There is a mentality that you must get into--the mentality that you do, indeed, deserve a better job. But with that air of entitlement, you must also wear the crown of humility, recognizing that you must work for that to happen.



No magic wands here. You put in the work, you put in the time, you pour blood, sweat, and tears into your passions, you are more likely to get that job. More likely. Not a guarantee. Get your name out there, get smaller jobs, build out that portfolio, work on how to talk to people who have the authority to determine whether or not you can get that position, and you'll be on your way.


The meek do not inherit the earth. In reality, there are 7 billion people out there, and no matter who you are, someone will do what you can do for less.

-steve

tomeaglescz
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Czech Republic via Bristol UK
Insane since: Feb 2002

IP logged posted posted 05-18-2007 09:08 Edit Quote

I had the same problem stuck in the middle of no mans land between programming and graphics, so i freelanced for the last 2 years, luckily i heard about a job as web designer/programmer with an agency here a few weeks ago, now i am working on a team whose clients include Coca Cola Hieneken and a lot of other household names. I didnt think i would get the job because i have never worked in a design agency and czech is still like n alien language to me to a certain extent, so i made a few phone calls, got called in for an interview, showed them the people and projects i worked on for them, got asked when i could come in for a weeks trial to see if i fitted in the team personality wise etc. (paid of course) and now i am very happy in the new job.

The key thing was i was told later i admitted what i couldnt do in the interview, but the balance of things i could outweighed what i couldnt (they wanted someone who could also create flash games, i can't yet) but told them i would happily go on any courses they needed me to.

moral of the story: dont be afraid go for it, admit your weaknesses aswell as showing your strengths.


good luck

kimson
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Royal Horsing Ground
Insane since: Jan 2005

IP logged posted posted 05-18-2007 12:29 Edit Quote

Wow nice story tomeaglescz (how on earth do you pronounce your nickname )

Sometimes I do feel like taking the plunge and give up everything and start hunting around for work in a way that suits me and motivates me... I would need a little bit more guts though

______________________________________

The Fat Controller is gonna get you in the end.

tomeaglescz
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Czech Republic via Bristol UK
Insane since: Feb 2002

IP logged posted posted 05-19-2007 15:05 Edit Quote

like it is tom eagles cz



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