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Hiroki Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: NZ Insane since: Dec 2002	posted 12-18-2002 22:21 Hi, guys! How are you today? Well, I have got a wee question. My friend told me to study Visual Basic to study ASP. Because they are very simillar. And my school doesn't provide ASP lesson anyway. But I encountered a problem. ASP doesn't run Linux or Unix server. It will run only windows server, right? Lots fellows told me that they are stick to PHP or SQL. My school doesn't provide PHP or SQL class. Studying Visual Basic is still good for SQL? Please give me a couple of tips!!! Hiroki Kozai
Perfect Thunder Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: Milwaukee Insane since: Oct 2001	posted 12-19-2002 04:07 See my post to phortay. Remember that by using www.google.com to search the web, you can find information (training) on nearly anything. A lot of the people here are very good programmers who have never taken a class.
Tyberius Prime Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist with Finglongers From: Germany Insane since: Sep 2001	posted 12-19-2002 18:01 sql is really a language itself... asp and php just have an interface with a sql server, so that you can sent out sql commands to it. But honestly, you do not want to learn sql 'just so'. I have seen tons of horrid sql out there. So, search a bit for good pages. devshed.com would be a good starting point. so long, Tyberius Prime
Hiroki Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: NZ Insane since: Dec 2002	posted 12-19-2002 21:29 Thank you very much. Have a good day, guys. Hiroki Kozai
stinx Bipolar (III) Inmate From: London, UK Insane since: Apr 2002	posted 12-19-2002 21:43 There are ways to get ASP running on a Linux/Unix box. One company that has an ASP handler for nix servers is Chilisoft (now apparently owned by Sun). Another is InstantASP by Stryon/Halcyon. I have heard of others, but I don't have links to them. It's also worth bearing in mind that neither of these will be able to cope with ASP as well as IIS does. A lot of ASPs functionality comes from its integration into COM objects and the like. That part really is proprietary Microsoft stuff, and you are probably better off running ASP on IIS, or PHP on Linux. If you are only looking to learn the basics, then either will do (and you can get Apache/PHP to run on Windows if you want - probably more easily than getting ASP to run on a nix server).

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Hiroki
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: NZ
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted 12-18-2002 22:21

Hi, guys! How are you today?

Well, I have got a wee question. My friend told me to study Visual Basic to study ASP. Because they are very simillar. And my school doesn't provide ASP lesson anyway.

But I encountered a problem. ASP doesn't run Linux or Unix server. It will run only windows server, right? Lots fellows told me that they are stick to PHP or SQL.

My school doesn't provide PHP or SQL class. Studying Visual Basic is still good for SQL?
Please give me a couple of tips!!!

Hiroki Kozai

Perfect Thunder
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Milwaukee
Insane since: Oct 2001

posted 12-19-2002 04:07

See my post to phortay. Remember that by using www.google.com to search the web, you can find information (training) on nearly anything. A lot of the people here are very good programmers who have never taken a class.

Tyberius Prime
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Germany
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted 12-19-2002 18:01

sql is really a language itself...
asp and php just have an interface with a sql server, so that you can sent out sql commands to it.

But honestly,
you do not want to learn sql 'just so'. I have seen tons of horrid sql out there.
So, search a bit for good pages.
devshed.com would be a good starting point.

so long,

Tyberius Prime

Hiroki
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: NZ
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted 12-19-2002 21:29

Thank you very much.
Have a good day, guys.

Hiroki Kozai

stinx
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: London, UK
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted 12-19-2002 21:43

There are ways to get ASP running on a Linux/Unix box.

One company that has an ASP handler for nix servers is Chilisoft (now apparently owned by Sun). Another is InstantASP by Stryon/Halcyon.

I have heard of others, but I don't have links to them. It's also worth bearing in mind that neither of these will be able to cope with ASP as well as IIS does. A lot of ASPs functionality comes from its integration into COM objects and the like. That part really is proprietary Microsoft stuff, and you are probably better off running ASP on IIS, or PHP on Linux.

If you are only looking to learn the basics, then either will do (and you can get Apache/PHP to run on Windows if you want - probably more easily than getting ASP to run on a nix server).