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Radical Rob
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Kapolei, Hawaii USA
Insane since: Jun 2001

IP logged posted posted 09-19-2002 11:14 Edit Quote

Ok I don't think I've posted a site here for quite some time. Maybe I hate getting critisized, (or crushed) but then again dont most artists? And thats what this section is about so by all means, please help.

That being said, I just got this very basic artist site done for a group that Im involved with. It's pretty much
assembled using php for simplicity sake, and dont want to overdo it with cliche flash stuff so I left it out.

Our CD itself is very dark and to the point, so please take a look and let er rip.
www.sudden-rush.com


It's a bit harder I think to work on personal stuff as compared to clients. I think I get more creative doing
stuff for other people.

thanks!




wayoutwestenterprises.com

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

IP logged posted posted 09-19-2002 13:50 Edit Quote

RB: Cool - you're famous I like the simplicity of the design (I'm awfully glad you didn't hit it with lots of Flash) the pages are all clear, navigation is good - it all gets the double thumbs up from me. Just a couple of thoughts:

1. Why does the band image on the index page link back to the index page?

2. I'm troubled by the code. You open and close 4 sets of HEAD tags on the index page and my suspicion is that what you've done is create each include as its own little HTML page which isn't right (I noticed the page took longer than it should to display and I suspect the extra code and its confusing nature might be confusing the poor browser). What you need to do is create a HTML page and decide where you want to slice it up and then put those slices into the different includes. Your pages are nice and simple and you will be able to simplify the code nicely.

3. You have the encoding metatag (4 times) but you don't have a DOCTYPE so I'd recommend you add one.

4. I'd make more use of styles - you use things like:

quote:
<div align="center">
<div align="center" class="links">



and you'll want to move the align to CSS. You will also benefit from having an external style sheet too.

Overall it looks and feels really good - if you fix those problems with the includes you should get a quicker page. Nice work.

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JKMabry
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: out of a sleepy funk
Insane since: Aug 2000

IP logged posted posted 09-19-2002 20:14 Edit Quote

the only thing I didn't care for at a quick glance was the fact that on the home page, I clicked the heads, same page, clicked home, same page. That was a bit weird.

It's navigable and fine once I got past that (yeah I'm smart enough to figger those links would prolly go there, they just shouldn't )

You're playing a Wal-Mart?!? and not the Cannery Mall? You could bump those hula keiki easy

Jason

Radical Rob
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Kapolei, Hawaii USA
Insane since: Jun 2001

IP logged posted posted 09-19-2002 22:19 Edit Quote

Hey Emp,

I tried using styles for certain things like links, etc. but for some reason, they wouldnt always work. I used this
site to really get into the php thing and utilizing styles, but I dont know the correct "way" to use the style sheet.

I have the page broken into several independant pages. (menu, body, footer) I have the styles included in my menu page. But in certain pages that Im working on, the styles arent there to select. Im sure there is a correct
way to do what Im doing, I just dont know where to start.

First off, I had to teach my self the php thing, and Im using a book that I can no longer find for the style sheets.

Any links, or tuts on that would be great. I fixed the click on the pic thing. I dont know why in the heck I did that.

thanks.



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JKMabry
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: out of a sleepy funk
Insane since: Aug 2000

IP logged posted posted 09-19-2002 22:55 Edit Quote

Rob, check this out. I put it for a friend a few weeks ago, he was trying to get started with php and html/css, it's sounds very close to what you're trying to do.

your header that's included on every page should link the style sheet (between the HEAD tags) like step #2 at the pages above.

Good luck and do show new stuff

Jason

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

IP logged posted posted 09-19-2002 23:00 Edit Quote

RB: Cool.

PHP

It is a problem I've seen before and an easy one to make. I highly recommend WarMage's PHP template tutorials to break you in nice and gently on this kind of thing:
www.gurusnetwork.com/tutorials/php/phptemplate/phptemplate.html
www.gurusnetwork.com/tutorials/php/phptemplate2/phptemplate2.html

CSS

Again a bit of a tricky one - I suspect your link problems might be due to this (its usually the most likely cause of link problems):
http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/556/

For a good introduction to CSS I can't recommend briggl's tutorials too often:
www.gurusnetwork.com/tutorials/css/cssintro/cssintro1.html
www.gurusnetwork.com/tutorials/css/cssintro2/cssintro2-1.html

Have a read through all that and feel free to ask any questions you like

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Radical Rob
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Kapolei, Hawaii USA
Insane since: Jun 2001

IP logged posted posted 09-20-2002 04:22 Edit Quote

whew... Im not even going to pretend I understand any of that stuff.... I have to say it but I've always been a trial and error kind of guy. I will try and get deeper with those suggestions, just a lil ovewhelming.... :-)

thanks for the tips though.


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[This message has been edited by Radical Rob (edited 09-20-2002).]

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

IP logged posted posted 09-20-2002 14:07 Edit Quote

Radical Rob: I wasn't really expecting you to read through it all in one go Skim through and pick out the relevant bits. Basically if you look through WarMage's template tutorials that should explain how to do the includes and you can go from there (the rest is tweaking).

I'd start another thread for that site so comments don't get mixed up and confusing.

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