alright not all the pages are up but i fixed some of the things slime mentioned and made a new version i would appreciate another review and once again i'm thankfull for all the help here is the site http://allen-designs.tk
From: there...no..there..... Insane since: May 2001
posted 10-19-2002 14:54
Hello allen designs.
Well here is one thing that I would really work on. Fixing the layout. Right now it is breaking up really badly. The images are not flush together in A LOT of places. Is there a reason you are using frames? Just curious. I personnaly have never liked frames (or iFrames) for that mater. Thats just my opionion though. You need to either make it fluid or static size. Right now the images are just kind of floating around on the screen.
Now the "idea" of the site and the graphics you have done are not bad. Just a note. On the "downloads" rollover the highlight goes into the black line on the right. Some of the headers on the menus are hard to read.
From: The Land of one Headlight on. Insane since: May 2001
posted 10-19-2002 17:50
First, please leave the page up long enough for more than one comment.
I think you need to take a look at what you're trying to do there. Is this a personal site or a professional/business site. You have both going there and I don't think it works. The first thing I would get rid of are your 'likes' and 'dislikes.' neither has any place on a site where you're soliciting business... which is what you're doing in "services."
As for what you list as the first of your 'dislikes' I can only hope you outgrow that mind-set.
[This message has been edited by NoJive (edited 10-19-2002).]
Mmm, I'm also having trouble with the table breaking up. Make your browser window as large as it can get in IE 6 and you should see what we're talking about. It fits fine with a small browser window.
Also, kill the scanlines in the lower left; scanlines are overused, and usually seem to be thought of as something that automatically make a picture cooler.
thx for the tips so far, but i can't see aht you guyz are talkin about the table breaking up, i pressed f11 and tried to see if it made it break up but it didnt break up? could it be that i have the most recent version of IE? also i will fix the scan lines soon, i was trying to have more then 1 partern in the bottom banner, this is more of a personal site not a professional, and if someone wants me to make them a site then iwill but other wise its just mostly of my art work
I recommend you [temporarily if you want] change your resolution to something like 1024x768 just so you can see the table problems, so that you can work on fixing them.
i tired workin in a higher resolution but it still didnt work out, is thier any script where i can do a sesize or am i goin to have to have a splash entrance again w/ the window resize code again? hahah man this is a hard suker
Well, neither a splash page nor a resize script should even be considered. Both are Bad Design. You should try to find a way to get your browser window large enough to see the stretching problems; or try to find the cause of the problem in some other way, so that you can fix it. Don't use a workaround.
Yup, it definitely breaks at 1024x768... You definitely need to get away from the frames...
I've also got to agree with NoJive concerning your likes and dislikes: they are just unprofessional. Especially the dislikes. Yes, you may be 16, but I would think you'd want to project a more mature and professional image. It's up to you, of course.
Also, I've got to admit that I'm kind of confused about the main page... this is a site to promote your design, right? If so, why is the main page essentially a journal (blog, whatever you want to call it)? The tone isn't all that professional, either...
quote:[:: bling bling baby!!::]-10-15-02 posted by: Allen
OOOOOOOHHHHHHH MAN!!!!!! i got some dope shit put in the portfolio and man its lookin good i also did my first php script on one of my clients sites incomputers.net yea so thats it uh-son uh-son that jacket is tite nah imean?
Now, don't get me wrong. You have the right to put whatever you want on your web page. But if the site's main purpose is to showcase your design and (hopefully) attract business, you might want to leave the "bling bling baby" etc. for a separate, personal page. What I really think you need to do is sit down and think about what exactly you want this page to be--and remember that it can't be both a personal and a business site. I would recommend two sites: one for your design, and another one where you can just let loose and say whatever you want to say.
I also have to comment on your "services" page. You have seven questions there for potential clients (not including the site category and description)... yet three of these have to do with the site colors and two are asking about the kind of technology to be used on the site. It looks to me like you're trying to ride the horse by yanking on its tail and sticking a carrot in its rectum (in other words, you're going at this backwards). Even with the site category and description fields, you're not getting at the very first thing you need to find out from a client: what they are expecting this site to do. Forget about site colors, iframes, etc. The first thing you need to do is sit down with the client, talk about the purpose of the site, try to get an idea of what you need on the site to accomplish that purpose, and then come up with a basic structure to present the information. Bells and whistles come much later, if at all.
But that's really a secondary point here. The primary point is: your "services" page should list what services you offer, and then give the client a way to contact you. Asking about the site color scheme has nothing to do with services. First tell the client what you can do for them, and hammer out the details after they contact you.
OK, those are the things that really popped out at me. Thanks for leaving the site up this time.
honestly who uses that gay resolution? i have tried everthign and the only thing i can think of is a resizable window? is this forum all about the negatives? jesus or is my site just one you guyz like to unload on, nothing good on it?
anyways, this site is for me and whoever wants to view it, i DO have the right to post what i want and half the stuff i post is just when i'm bored no where on the site does it say i'm a company, on the services page i clearly state that i do this for free , which pretty much means i'm not a company i just do it for whoever wants a free site made fast,
second of all, thier has to be some way to get the table size to make everything stick together right? well i tired making the table size the same size as the .psd image size that this site was made out of. but still nothing happend? i think i just might have to resolve to making a splash entrance w/ a resizeable window which ***, this is my last resort plllease any other options about this stupid breaking up because of a gay resolution?
OK, partner, it's obvious you have a few unresolved issues--don't bring them in here. If you want honest criticism, then stick around. If you can't handle that, then take your site to a place where people will pat you on the back and make you feel better about yourself.
Sorry for being a bit harsh, but seriously, since when is 1024x768 a "gay resolution?" That and 800x600 are the most commonly used resolutions around. I don't know why you can't recreate the problem on your computer, but I can assure you it does exist.
Nowhere did I tell you what you can and cannot say. You asked for opinions, and I gave you mine. If you don't like it, that's fine--you have that right. But don't feel you need to come back in here and tell us that you can say whatever you want. We already know that.
As for doing sites for free, that doesn't necessarily mean you're not interested in starting a business. I know people sometimes do sites for free to build up a portfolio so they have something to work with when they actually start their business. And again, everything I said was in the realm of suggestion, not command. Don't take it so hard. If you don't like it, ignore it. Just don't get snappy with people when they do what you asked them to do. It tends to piss them off.
As for the design problem you're facing... like I said, I don't know why the problem doesn't appear on your system. That is a bit odd. If I may offer a piece of advice, though (advice, remember)? As you know, web browsers are not the same thing as PS, and I don't really subscribe to the school of design that makes a site in PS, cuts it up, and puts it back together in HTML. Obviously you do, and that's your choice. Personally, I think it's a less effective approach: doing something in PS is essentially designing for a static medium, while building a web site is designing for a dynamic medium. Just keep those differences in mind.
The people here are pretty good at what they do (me, I just hang around and hope to soak up some of their skill when they're not looking). They also take requests for help/criticism very seriously. I understand that it may be frustrating to receive so much seemingly negative criticism, and this can't be helped by the fact that you have a problem that doesn't present an obvious solution. Just understand that we are trying to help you improve your site--don't take the comments here personally, OK? Try to be gracious at the least, maybe even thankful, and you'll find we're much easier to deal with.
Oh, another thing: when you put a site up for review, state specifically what it is about the site you want reviewed. If you don't want us to review the content, say so, and you'll save all of us the effort and you the frustration. Cool?
Don't give up, and don't let yourself get too frustrated. Take a break if need be, and let the site sit for a while, and you might find the answer staring you in the face when you get back. At the very least, you'll be better prepared to deal with the problem both mentally and physically.
Uh, everybody and their fucking brother...but that's not the point. The point is, if your'e designing a website you presumably want people to be able to VIEW it. So you need to learn how to properly code a site that will regardless of the user's screen resolution.
quote:i have tried everthign and the only thing i can think of is a resizable window
You have not nearly begun to try all of the possible solutions. A resizable window? What does that mean exactly??
quote:is this forum all about the negatives?
Not at all. But we're not about the 'bling bling baby' bullshit either. If you want to run around tooting your own horn over some half ass shit, go right ahead. Just don't expect us to join in. You have received some *very* good advice from some very talented and intelligent people. Feel lucky.
quote:any other options about this stupid breaking up because of a gay resolution?
Again, the 'gay' resolution is not at fault. Anything higher than 800x600 breaks the page. Not because of anything the resolution has done wrong, but because the page is poorly coded.
Alternatively, if you're not willing for some godforsaken reason to learn to do it without tables, learn how to properly code a table so that it won't break. Learn how to properly cut up your images so that they can be put into a properly coded table.
And lern how to have a little respect for the people who take their own time to come in here and help you learn and improve your site.
posted 10-19-2002 10:28
