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mas Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: the space between us Insane since: Sep 2002	posted 09-12-2003 16:12 oh well, once again, my page got a new interface. Suggestions for improvements, constructive feedback and tips are welcome.
quisja Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: everywhere Insane since: Jun 2002	posted 09-12-2003 17:35 I'm quite liking that, as a style I think it works pretty well. Better than the previous versions that I think I remember. I'm not too sure about the blue background to the date headers in the blue theme. Doesn't quite seem to work. I presume you're using some server-side language to generate the page, and the code probably looks OK in that, but it's totally unreadable once it's outputted to my browser. I like looking at people's code, and it's probably a good idea for people reviewing your site. s'only a minor thing though really...
Veneficuz Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: A graveyard of dreams Insane since: Mar 2001	posted 09-12-2003 20:34 Looks good, better than the previous one One thing I noticed in all of the styles is that the menu text becomes harder to read when you hover over one of the buttons. It might look better if the link keeps the black text color while only the background changes. Something that I think would look good was if you kept the background image as a fixed background. So when you browse down the boxes on the right side stay visible in the top-right corner the whole time. The links in the work section doesn't look all that good. Having the link printed in big letters like that doesn't fit in with the rest of the page imo. It might look better if you reduced the size of both the text and the arrows... You should remove the <xml> tag in the beginning of the file. I know it is supposed to be there according to the standards, but IE enters Quirk mode if the first line is something different than the Doctype. Another solution is to add a browser sniffer to the php source and refrain from adding the <xml> tag if it detects a IE browser. Agree with Quisja on the readability of the code. The rest of us should be able to read the code as well. An easy way to improve the readability is to add a little '\n' to end of each echo or print statment in the php source... _________________________ "There are 10 kinds of people; those who know binary, those who don't and those who start counting at zero"
mas Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: the space between us Insane since: Sep 2002	posted 09-13-2003 12:03 thx a lot for the input there. well i don't know yet if i really will add these /n tags to the php scripts...oh about the fixed img background. no, i don't want that, since i tried that over at mah portfolio site, and some people say that the scrolling isnt that smooth then. veneficuz: good one with the work links. they need some work, you are right.
quisja Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: everywhere Insane since: Jun 2002	posted 09-13-2003 19:11 Clarification: All \n does (note direction of slash) is add a newline character/line break in the HTML code, not really a tag, per se. Sorry if that was obvious.
mas Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: the space between us Insane since: Sep 2002	posted 09-16-2003 20:20 so is there anything else that you would recommend to improve the readability of the code then?
Alevice Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: Mexico Insane since: Dec 2002	posted 09-17-2003 01:48 Indentation for unclear inhertied elements, like table labyrinths. I dont think that much of importance to you tho. __________________________________ Alevice's Media Library
mas Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: the space between us Insane since: Sep 2002	posted 09-17-2003 18:54 table labyrinths? i used only one single table , and this one can be found at the work page. the whole page is div structured
Veneficuz Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: A graveyard of dreams Insane since: Mar 2001	posted 09-17-2003 19:24 I think Alevice only used tables as something that should be intended, and she also said 'I dont think that much of importance to you tho'... But the changes you've done to your code looks good, but there is still a couple of things that could be done to improve readability for us poor users. For your whole <body> tag only spans a couple of lines. Add a line break in between each news entry and it'll help a lot Now that your code is readable I noticed a few things. You don't have single <p> tag in on the entire page. Each paragraph should be inside <p> tags, you've instead used <br> tags to create a linebreak which is a no-no... I see that you decided to fixate the background. Looks much better now _________________________ "There are 10 kinds of people; those who know binary, those who don't and those who start counting at zero" - the Golden Ratio - [This message has been edited by Veneficuz (edited 09-17-2003).]
mas Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: the space between us Insane since: Sep 2002	posted 09-17-2003 20:42 oh, about the <p> tags.....i know that, but i will first do a few tweaks on the whole php script. then, i will also fix the thing with the P. anyway, thx for pointing that out. btw, my code is readable now you say? strange, since i didn't change anything.....mmhmm......a self fixing problem.....is a good problem

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mas
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: the space between us
Insane since: Sep 2002

posted 09-12-2003 16:12

oh well, once again, my page got a new interface. Suggestions for improvements, constructive feedback and tips are welcome.

quisja
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: everywhere
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted 09-12-2003 17:35

I'm quite liking that, as a style I think it works pretty well. Better than the previous versions that I think I remember. I'm not too sure about the blue background to the date headers in the blue theme. Doesn't quite seem to work. I presume you're using some server-side language to generate the page, and the code probably looks OK in that, but it's totally unreadable once it's outputted to my browser. I like looking at people's code, and it's probably a good idea for people reviewing your site. s'only a minor thing though really...

Veneficuz
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: A graveyard of dreams
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted 09-12-2003 20:34

Looks good, better than the previous one

One thing I noticed in all of the styles is that the menu text becomes harder to read when you hover over one of the buttons. It might look better if the link keeps the black text color while only the background changes.

Something that I think would look good was if you kept the background image as a fixed background. So when you browse down the boxes on the right side stay visible in the top-right corner the whole time.

The links in the work section doesn't look all that good. Having the link printed in big letters like that doesn't fit in with the rest of the page imo. It might look better if you reduced the size of both the text and the arrows...

You should remove the <xml> tag in the beginning of the file. I know it is supposed to be there according to the standards, but IE enters Quirk mode if the first line is something different than the Doctype. Another solution is to add a browser sniffer to the php source and refrain from adding the <xml> tag if it detects a IE browser.

Agree with Quisja on the readability of the code. The rest of us should be able to read the code as well. An easy way to improve the readability is to add a little '\n' to end of each echo or print statment in the php source...

_________________________
"There are 10 kinds of people; those who know binary, those who don't and those who start counting at zero"

mas
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: the space between us
Insane since: Sep 2002

posted 09-13-2003 12:03

thx a lot for the input there. well i don't know yet if i really will add these /n tags to the php scripts...oh about the fixed img background. no, i don't want that, since i tried that over at mah portfolio site, and some people say that the scrolling isnt that smooth then.
veneficuz: good one with the work links. they need some work, you are right.

quisja
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: everywhere
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted 09-13-2003 19:11

Clarification: All \n does (note direction of slash) is add a newline character/line break in the HTML code, not really a tag, per se. Sorry if that was obvious.

mas
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: the space between us
Insane since: Sep 2002

posted 09-16-2003 20:20

so is there anything else that you would recommend to improve the readability of the code then?

Alevice
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Mexico
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted 09-17-2003 01:48

Indentation for unclear inhertied elements, like table labyrinths. I dont think that much of importance to you tho.

__________________________________

Alevice's Media Library

mas
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: the space between us
Insane since: Sep 2002

posted 09-17-2003 18:54

table labyrinths? i used only one single table , and this one can be found at the work page. the whole page is div structured

Veneficuz
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: A graveyard of dreams
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted 09-17-2003 19:24

I think Alevice only used tables as something that should be intended, and she also said 'I dont think that much of importance to you tho'... But the changes you've done to your code looks good, but there is still a couple of things that could be done to improve readability for us poor users. For your whole <body> tag only spans a couple of lines. Add a line break in between each news entry and it'll help a lot

Now that your code is readable I noticed a few things. You don't have single tag in on the entire page. Each paragraph should be inside tags, you've instead used tags to create a linebreak which is a no-no...

I see that you decided to fixate the background. Looks much better now

_________________________
"There are 10 kinds of people; those who know binary, those who don't and those who start counting at zero"
- the Golden Ratio -

[This message has been edited by Veneficuz (edited 09-17-2003).]

mas
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: the space between us
Insane since: Sep 2002

posted 09-17-2003 20:42

oh, about the tags.....i know that, but i will first do a few tweaks on the whole php script. then, i will also fix the thing with the P. anyway, thx for pointing that out.
btw, my code is readable now you say? strange, since i didn't change anything.....mmhmm......a self fixing problem.....is a good problem

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