From: Somewhere over the rainbow Insane since: Mar 2001
posted 10-14-2002 09:03
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I don't have time to test it out right now but I just thought a "Thankyou" was in order. I've been looking for an article or tutorial just like this lately. Hopefully this'll save me a lot of time compared to learning it the hard way.
From: Somewhere over the rainbow Insane since: Mar 2001
posted 10-14-2002 23:46
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From: A graveyard of dreams Insane since: Mar 2001
posted 10-15-2002 12:29
Great work Ini
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From: Somewhere over the rainbow Insane since: Mar 2001
posted 10-15-2002 13:13
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quote:Coolness. While we're at it, DMS, somebody could explain to me why that
XML-Php tut seems to be a complete wreck?
I didn't get a review so far.
I've read it, don't worry
Don't have the time right now to "get into it", I'm working 2 jobs + freelancing to make ends meet.
It's a very interesting subject though and I like it.
Please format it and put it up under Tutorial submissions" over at GN, it's easier to read it there.
I'll try to go through it in depth later.
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From: Somewhere over the rainbow Insane since: Mar 2001
posted 10-17-2002 17:05
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InI: It all seems fine - work it into an actual tutorial and submit to the GN.
My main gripe is that it is very generic. What I like about the GN tutorials (including your Java ones ) is that they work towards a specific goal and you pick up plenty of transferable skills on the way.
So what I'd like to see is:
'Parsing the XML Data Feed: An introduction to using the Expat functions'
In which you:
1. Outline the problem - Amazon have an XML feed - how do I get my hands on it in a usable form; the solution: Use Expat
2. Give an overview of how the Amazon feed is contsructed and outline theoretically how we would want to get at the information.
3. Then give details of how the Expat functions work to acheive this task
4. Draw the elements together to show how a simple script can be constructed to do this.
5. Draw the threads together in a conclusion with links to further resources.
Each one of those would be around a page (although 4 might make 2 pages) - you would work to achieve a very specific (and important) aim whilst learning the skills to apply this to other XML feeds and on a broader scale to parse XML files in general.
Anyway just my thoughts - it would be a very interesting and important (and popular) tutorial.
Well put Emps. I agree on both your points:
1) this this is indeed extremely valuable and useful information, and
2) that taking it out of the purely raw information realm and teaching the same material by applying it to a "real world" project would make it far easier to comprehend and far more enjoyable to read.
Terrific start Ini! Terrific topic. Terrific material too. This technology is going to be so VERY interesting to watch develop and shape the internet!
From: Somewhere over the rainbow Insane since: Mar 2001
posted 10-18-2002 00:15
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InI: Basically I've seen what you are doing over at the GN and, while the above tutorial you outlined would be good, I know that you've got a great tutorial in you on this. You don't need to give away all your secrets - in fact it would be better if you didn't and you left people with the specific skills to grab and process the Amazon feed (and other feeds in general) and the desire to take it further: Caching the feeds and images, building in reviews and ratings, etc.
Lets be honest people are charging good money for similar (probably less effective ) scripts and there is a great call for this kind of thing right now. On a broader front giving people the skills to access the Amazon feed will only help encourage more companies to make this work which is good for everyone.
From: Somewhere over the rainbow Insane since: Mar 2001
posted 10-19-2002 12:26
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InI: I suspect you've misinterpreted what I was getting at - which is my fault as it was a little tongue in cheek - sorry
What I meant was that you have done loads of intersting things in the GN's books section but the tutorial doesn't need to cover them - it would probably be better if you just concentrated on the parsing the Amazon feed and then in the conclusion offer suggestions for how people can extend the script to create something like the GN books section (or something completely different if they so wanted).
Sorry if I wasn't very clear on that point. I wasn't suggesting you didn't share your knowledge as thats far to obviously false for me to be able to get away with
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