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Well, I have to decide which subject I take on this term. I am a student at polytechnic. This is about that.

Visual Basic class will be held this term. I want to study some server side scripting. A friend of mine recommend to take it. Because ASP is much like ASP.

Also I am interested in os. A lot of tutor said to me that the knowledge of os would help me.

But I cannot take both. I can take only one of them. What do you think.

I have done basic HTML, CSS, Javascript, Access database. And have been doing PS tutorial and flash tutorial. I want to be a web desiner.

Any advices are highly appreciated.

ps. This is associated here: http://www.ozoneasylum.com/Forum12/HTML/001218.html

Hiroki Kozai

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Because ASP is much like ASP.

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Huh?

Anyway, from what I understand, ASP is a coding environment (like CGI). Generally things are written in VB under ASP. I could be wrong though.

If you want to do web design, I think that ASP would be the better choice over an OS class.

Ok, this depends on what your goals with the classes are.
If you want server side scripting most, go with ASP
If you want an introduction to application/OS-programming, go with pure Visual Basic.

Keep this in mind though.
ASP is more of a brand name for microsofts own version of server side scripting.
Traditional ASP uses mainly VB-Script which is very much like Visual Basic, the differences are (if I remember correctly) is first what types of variables there are and how you can use them. Then in VB Script, the way to access applications and OS specific functions are a bit different due to security aspects. In short you can't do as much in VB Script as in Visual Basic.

However, if you choose Visual Basic, you will recognise almost everything in VB Script since the syntax and the way you code is the same.

What differs is what you output, in VB you connect to and use dialog boxes, forms, windows and so on in the actual operating system.

In VB Script you output HTML, which means that you must know how HTML works in order to build pages in VB Script on the server, part by part. Here you probably will use interaction with databases a bit more as well.

I hope this clears up some things for you.
/Dan

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Hi, thanks guys!

Well, I want to know "server-side-scripting" in my future. But unfortunately my school does not provide only that. A friend of mine took visual vasic class to study ASP. Because ASP is like VB. Am I right?

I will have to make my decision very soon.
It seems to me that I'd better study ASP itself not through studying VB for it.

Cheers.

Hiroki Kozai

Have you considered PHP? It's very widely used, it's relatively easy to get started with and yet very powerful and flexible. PHP's C-style syntax will help you with coding Javascript(& DHTML).

If you are absolutely set on going the Microsoft route, you might want to consider looking into ASP.Net , so you don't have to unlearn ASP classic.


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The simple answer is "yes", learning VB will help you learn ASP.

Although you can use JScript, PerlScript and maybe others to write ASP code, the majority of it is written in VBScript, and most of the support documentation I have seen for ASP was written with VBScript.

Although VBScript is only a small part of VB, the syntax is near identical, and they both use the same underlying technology. You will be able to import COM components, etc. If you get into .net programming, afaik it is basically all written in VB. It's from Microsoft - did you expect java, perhaps?

I would probably recommend PHP over ASP for personal and performance issues, but I am a realist, and I suspect that your college doesn't offer PHP lessons. Also I imagine your chances of getting a job at the end are going to be higher with VB than with PHP.

Hi, guys. Thanks for your advices. I am very happy to hear from you.

Well, my schood does not provide me with PHP class unforturnately. I'd like to study server side scripting. My friend adviced me to take VB class because of the similarity.

But I might have read that ASP does only work for windows os environment, right? If so, I'd rather want to study more flexcible program.

Probably I am going to study PHP or whatever more flexible one than ASP. And I am not going to take VB class. This is my opinion so far.

Again, Thanks guys. See you later.

Hiroki Kozai

ACtually ASP has been ported to Apache for *nix (yee gods what a bastard half breed that is) though I have no idea what language it uses.



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