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OlssonE
Maniac (V) Inmate

From:  Eagleshieldsbay, Sweden
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 03-25-2002 10:41

Hey! when is the pspong gonna open? WORK HARDER!

[This message has been edited by OlssonE (edited 03-25-2002).]

Darkshadow
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Jan 2001

posted posted 03-25-2002 15:21

Nice idea there OlssonE , well most of us did and then

- slowed down due lack of input and planning of what people where doing
- then stopped
- then start a little bit more with some little planning
- then back to stop again
- now the odd piece there and then

I would say get a list together of who wants in on this project and go from there or did we try that already?

Oh well someday it will start and finish, but until then it's getting on with are life?s (no not the internet life the other real life one I can't remember much of )


Chris C

Schitzoboy
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Yes
Insane since: Feb 2001

posted posted 03-25-2002 20:16

I think maybe we bit off more than we could chew. We should break it down. First lets all agree (or vote) on a logo. Then lets start making some more page layouts using that logo and variations. Then pick the best of these. Next we should set up the site so that the layout is truly done. Then all of us not-so-good-at-code-but-stil-want-to-help-people canstart adding bits of content (rules page, FAQ, etc.) While the coders can put everything togethor based on the knowledge the gained from having the layout already done.

Could this get things rollin?

Schitzo

GRUMBLE
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Omicron Persei 8
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 03-28-2002 18:00

i would say, make a list what there is to be done.
then select the people who do it. not the other way round.

Tyberius Prime
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Germany
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 03-28-2002 18:46

ok,
here's my first entry for the list

-adapt TP's code, so that it uses netPBM to resize images instead of gdlib.


I'd do it myself, but like the final finals are coming up in 2 weeks, and I've been studying for about a month already.
Wish me luck...



Tyberius Prime

Darkshadow
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Jan 2001

posted posted 03-28-2002 20:50

TP: You have done a lot for this PSpong project so you don't really need to add anything more to it (I don't think ), good luck with your exams

I think Grumble has got the right idea, just write out a list of thing to be done and then the people that want to be a part of it or just help out can be picking what they want to do of the list. But tell us what you want to do on the list (So we don't have about five people doing the same thing) and then discuss it with other people or we could even set up teams to do parts of it, how does that sound?


Chris C

Schitzoboy
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Yes
Insane since: Feb 2001

posted posted 03-28-2002 23:53

Its great that people are getting things done on the back end, but I really want to see some visual stuff being done. It not as important by any means, but I thinkg if people can SEE some progress being made the might be more apt to jump in and help. Grumble is right though, we need to see who is doin' what.

Schitzo

eyezaer
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: the Psychiatric Ward
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 03-29-2002 00:15

the problem is dat, "we can't put the GD library on the server that's going to host PSPONG right now"

That kinda stopped everying. Really fast.

*shrugs*

. . .

Tyberius Prime
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Germany
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 03-29-2002 10:13

yes, but honestly there's exactly one thing (ok, two) we would be using the gd lib for.
And I think we can do it with netPBM.
It's validating the jpeg,
and then making a thumbnail.
If nothing else works out, I'll have to dig into the jpeg docs after my finals and do it in php. (oh yeah, pugzly is gonna love this! It'll use up his cpu time on the server in like no time ;-) )

Pugzly
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: 127.0.0.1
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 03-29-2002 13:59

Ahem!

docilebob
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: buttcrack of the midwest
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 04-01-2002 02:21

Haven`t been down here in a while, but wasn`t Weadz heading this thing up with TP and Emps ?
Is Weadz still alive ?

InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 04-01-2002 16:37

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

Pugzly
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: 127.0.0.1
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 04-01-2002 20:18

A PHP version would be better ('cuz then I could dig through it and understand it!).

I don't want it to die either....

InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 04-05-2002 09:11

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

Pugzly
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: 127.0.0.1
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 04-05-2002 13:01

You can use whatever you want, as long as I don't need to recompile PHP.

InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 04-05-2002 16:26

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

Osprey
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Mar 2002

posted posted 04-05-2002 17:08

I'd like to help. If you need it.

InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 04-05-2002 17:14

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 04-05-2002 17:34

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 04-05-2002 17:45

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

butcher
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: New Jersey, USA
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 04-05-2002 22:51

I'm not sure of the whole scope of what you want this script to accomplish, but here's a function using PHP and netPBM to make a thumbnail of a jpeg or gif file.

<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Verdana, Arial">code:</font><HR><pre><?php

/*
* The thumbnail function uses the pnmscale program from
* the popular Netpbm image manipulation tools package
* to create a thumbnail of the given image. If a thumbnail
* already exists for the image, the function simply returns.
*/

function thumbnail($filename, $album) {
global $theight;
/* Define where to find the various external binaries we need */
$djpeg = "/path/to/netpbm/jpegtopnm"; /* decompresses a jpeg to ppm */
$cjpeg = "/path/to/netpbm/ppmtojpeg"; /* compreses a ppm to jpeg format */
$pnmscale = "/path/to/netpbm/pnmscale"; /* scales a ppm image */
$giftopnm = "/path/to/netpbm/giftopnm"; /* convert a gif to ppm */
$ppmtogif = "/path/to/netpbm/ppmtogif"; /* convert a ppm to gif */
$ppmquant = "/path/to/netpbm/ppmquant"; /* colour quantize a ppm */

$tdir = "/path/to/thumbnails"; /* thumbnail directory */

$tfile = $tdir."/".basename($filename); // thumbnail file
if(!@is_file($tfile))
{
if(ereg("\.gif$",$filename)) // Look for .gif extension
{
exec("$giftopnm $filename

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 04-06-2002 14:29

Sorry people various things have sucked away my time (interesting things like helping redo the GN but none the less it has taken my time away from this project).

The major problem is that the project has lacked leadership to keep things moving in the right direction and sometimes a more organic/spaghetti organisation can work (as long as things can be kept moving) but once the momentum starts going then it is a little difficult to get it back. I'm glad to see InI has got people fired up and this could get the ball rolling.

I've got a reasonable overview of things so here is how I see things as they stand:

TP has done excellent work on the server side code the main stumbling block being the lack of GD (it was really only this that stopped us from having test games a while ago). Hopefully InI's coding efforts will defeat this problem.

Weadah was planning on first attaching a Flash interface to the server side code (based on various ideas presented during the planning stages). I can't speak for him but he should be able to make use of whatever the back end code pumps out (a HTML front end can then be developed after that).

I knocked together a HTML skeleton so that we could get TP's code tested. I haven't yet got around to uploading it to the PSPong area but now that things are moving I will (remind me again as something interesting will distract me!!). Once the GD problem has been worked around we can start using the HTML skeleton to test how things work and then if things are moving along we can then sort out the non-Flash design and go from there.

Anyway good to see this is back up and running. I'll make sure I check in here more often!!

Emps

InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 04-06-2002 14:40

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 04-06-2002 16:17

InI: There isn't one as far as I'm aware. Weadah had already anticipated that there might be a problem with GD and that was the solution he suggested and as far as I'm aware (I'm not overly familiar with it and hadn't heard anything about it before Weadah mentioned it). I think all 3 of us got pretty busy and weren't able to give the problem the time it required to solve it - if you can then that would really get things moving again.

Sorry I can't be more help on that front.

Emps

InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 04-06-2002 17:24

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

Tyberius Prime
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Germany
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 04-06-2002 17:41

the problem with netPBM was... nobody had time to even try it :-)

Downloaded it, and then came along things that sucked up my time like nothing...

And, I think you're right, it would be too heavy on the server, in the long run.

so long,

Tyberius Prime



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