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An interesting article about the sugar industry threatening the WHO:
www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,940287,00.html

Their main arguement seems to be that if people eat less sugar they make less money - no shit Sherlock!! Heroin and crack dealers could make a similar arguement and they aren't killing as many people a year

I found this chilling:

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The report, Diet, Nutrition and the Prevention of Chronic Diseases, has already been heavily criticised by the soft drinks industry, whose members sell virtually everywhere in the world, including developing countries where malnutrition is beginning to coexist with the obesity common in affluent countries.

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They sugar industry argues for a 25% limit on the amoutn of sugar consumed a day but I thought the WHO 10% limit sounded like an awful lot anyway.

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10% would already mean a lot of sugar squares. In my opinion even for caffeine-addicted people that drink their coffee with sugar, it is hard to reach that level.

The degree of egoism they are showing explains a lot about their personality. Scary.

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*AHEM*

The WHO says 10% the Sugar Consortium says 25%. I say 'the same as yesterday and the day before.' What does it matter to me what someone else says. My coffee isn't right without two cubes in it.

GrythusDraconis
"I'm sick of hearing that beauty is only skin-deep. That's deep enough. Who wants an adorable pancreas?" - Unknown

I like my coffee with sugar, but I'll agree that it's effect on the human body is similar to a reaction to any one of a number of controlled substances.

Get this:
I went with my sister and her 2 kids (at the time she was pregnant with the youngest) to Cinnabon in the mall. Her son, apparently, has a sensitivity to gluten and sugar, which we were unaware of at the time. So I'm treating, and I get a cinnabon for everyone, little ones for the kids, and big ones for me n' sis. After little James gets about 1/3 of the way through his, he starts talking a blue streak and we were a little startled! When I looked over at him, his pupils were totally dialated and his eyes were glazed (about like the cinnabon, now that I think about it!) He was totally wired as if he'd just done some major kind of drug... I had to wait outside the store while my sister was shopping for some maternity clothes and let the kids run themselves out...

It was shortly thereafter that my nephew was diagnosed with the gluten sensitivity and had to go on a strict diet. My sister limits his sugar intake pretty seriously since then.

After witnessing that - I firmly believe sugar to be as much a drug as alcohol, nicotine, caffiene, cocaine, mary jane... you name it! But I still gotta have 2 lumps in my coffee each morning...

Bodhi - Cell 617

the major sugar companies and food companies have been systematically undermining independent research on the dietetic effects of sugar on human health. for the purposes of profit, they have persisted the lie that sugar is not damaging to health. It is. For example: it's a major cause of diabetes.

My wife and I recently saw a Korean news program on sugar, and after some of the things they said we've decided to limit our intake as much as possible. I agree with what bodhi said about sugar being not too much different from a controlled substance. I mean, after all, it was on the Simpsons! You guys saw that episode where Marge had sugar outlawed and they started smuggling it in? Scary stuff.



Ahem. Um, seriously, though, sugar is bad for you. I wouldn't go as far as outlawing it, but I think we need to understand the effects of sugar and be responsible in our use of it.





www.liminality.org

You might want to make the point that "refined" sugar is much different than "natural" sugar. Natural sugars are pretty damned hard to get away from since many "non-sugar" substances are converted into sugars by our bodies. Sugars found in fruits and vegetables are not nearly as bad for you as refined sugar is. The reason that sugar gets you so "hyper" and has a semi-narcotic effect is that it is one of the few energy sources that can be asimilated by the brain. They don't require much of a breakdown in order to produce energy.

The worst thing to do in any situation is become reactionary about it. While cutting out most of the sugar in our diets wouldn't be a bad thing, what will happen is that people will start to turn to other sweeteners to take it's place. This is already happening in the diet crazed western world. Chemicals like sodiumsacharine (sweet n low) and aspartame (nutrasweet) are MUCH worse for your body even in smaller quantities. Some naturally derived sweeteners like sorbital are not quite as bad. The main thing with any issue is to get proper information for multiple sources and make educated decisions. Reactionary thinking is never a good solution.


It's only after we've lost everything...
That we're free to do anything...

Well, I had pretty much assumed that everyone would understand we were talking about refined sugar (table sugar), and not natural sugars. But I suppose it is always helpful to clarify.

As for reactionary thinking, I have to agree with you, if by "reactionary" you mean running around like a chicken that's lost its head and not thinking through what you are doing. My wife and I have actually started using a lot more honey, which is doubly good because it means that we use less sugar and we get the health benefits of honey. We try to stay away from those artificial sweeteners.

Honey is your friend. Don't like sugar? Try honey. She's sweet and gentle, and she won't get you all wired and then kick you in the balls like that vindictive hussy sugar.

Suho ? yeah, that was pretty much what I was refering to (the chicken routine). I wasn't accusing anyone, just stating in general. Honey is also a natural antibiotic as well... good for you when you're sick. Like garlic and jalapenos.


It's only after we've lost everything...
That we're free to do anything...

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then kick you in the balls like that vindictive hussy sugar.

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wow...a little bit more of suho's mindset has just poked through again =) Weeeeeee!

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honey is good.

Brown Sugah!!! - Go Stones!!!!

LOL Suho... Did that come from some personal experience or is it just postulation on the possiblities?

I used to be allergic to sugar when I was younger. I've grown out of it since then but when I was 'on sugar' I would run around like mad bouncing off walls and the like not even noticing. So yeah, it can get you pretty bad...

Out of curiousity. The Sugar Association(Consortium... I like that word better and it sounds ominous) is opposing the Who's results on sugar... anyone have a link to their results? I haven't seen a diffinitive list of what is bad about sugar. I know you aren't all reactivists but I'd like to see the specifics for myself.

GrythusDraconis
"I'm sick of hearing that beauty is only skin-deep. That's deep enough. Who wants an adorable pancreas?" - Unknown

I only got an email through recently stating that suger is classed as a drug. It went on to say that it does the same thing as alcohol once in our systems. Whether that is true or not i have no idea.
http://members.tripod.com/jawnspages/health/sugar.html this site suggests that suger and polio are connected.

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then kick you in the balls like that vindictive hussy sugar.

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[Stan (South Park)] Whoa, dude! [/Stan (South Park)]

DL: Heh, yeah, I have a tendency to let things slip sometimes. I'm going to have to start exercising greater control over my more violent personalities before my image here is totally destroyed...

GD: Oh, I have seen the bitter dregs of the cup of sugar. She may act sweet and innocent, but she's got a heart as rotten as that month-old Chinese take-out sitting on the bottom shelf of the refrigerator. You know what I'm talking about.