Preserved Topic: Guns; A survey 4 U. (Page 1 of 2)

Hello fellow inmates, I am doing a research paper and I need your help. I must use a survey as one of my sources. (note: you're not the only ones being surveyed) I know you are all very opinionated so I came here. Please fill out the following survey and get paid $25!!! jk no money but you will be helping out a student.

1. Do you think there should be tight gun control?


2. do you think guns are generally dangerous to the public?


3. has some you have known ever been killed/injured from a gun?


4. if so, did it change the way you think about guns in terms of their safety?


5. have you ever used a gun in self defense?


6. have you ever used a gun for reasons other that self defense?


7. what do you think would happen to crime rates in your area if guns were allowed fgor everyone over 21 (and requires a permit to carry)

8. do you think guns in movies and video games influence our children to commit acts of violence?


9. do verses in the Bible like Genesis 27:3 and Genesis 48:22 concerning weapons change your about guns?


10. if you dont have a gun, would you consider getting one? (with a permit of course) PLEASE RE-ANSWER QUESTION 10 EVERYONE PLEASE!


ok thanks for filling out my survey, your help will get me an A+! hehe.

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Kevin G: Do you only want US inmates to do this?

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FAQs: Emperor

1. Do you think there should be tight gun control?

No. I think that control within reason is enough.

2. do you think guns are generally dangerous to the public?

No. I think people are generally dangerous to the public.

3. has some you have known ever been killed/injured from a gun?

Yes. A friend of mine was shot in the head and died in his home by a friend as they were 'goofing' around during a party.

4. if so, did it change the way you think about guns in terms of their safety?

No. I think the responsibility falls on the two idiots playing where they shouldn't have been. It isn't the gun's fault they were stupid and irresponsible.

5. have you ever used a gun in self defense?

No.

6. have you ever used a gun for reasons other that self defense?

Yes. Hunting, target practice.

7. what do you think would happen to crime rates in your area if guns were allowed fgor everyone over 21 (and requires a permit to carry)

I think they would go down. Opening the envelope of gun control will allow for easier tracking and punishment of violators of the gun laws. Not to mention that anyone anywhere could draw on you. Is that TV/vcr/dvd player/stereo really worth it?

8. do you think guns in movies and video games influence our children to commit acts of violence?

No. I think it does make them more dangerous if the parents don't teach them that guns are real and that they can hurt people.

9. do verses in the Bible like

Genesis 27:3 - Now then, get your weapons-your quiver and bow-and go out to the open country to hunt some wild game for me.

and

Genesis 48:22 - And to you, as one who is over your brothers, I give the ridge of land [1] I took from the Amorites with my sword and my bow."
concerning weapons change your about guns?

No. I don't believ ein the christian religion.

10. if you dont have a gun, would you consider getting one? (with a permit of course)

Yes. I have been planning on owning a gun for some time but I want to take a safety course before I purchase one.

GD Note - For reference I have linked said bible chapters and also pasted them within this thread for ease of use...

GrythusDraconis

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1. Yes
2. Yes
3. Yes
4. No
5. No
6. No
7. Crime increase
8. No, but I do believe they desensitize to some degree
9. No, I'm an atheist
10. Provide refs so I can read for myself

Emps, i would like everyone in the universe to fill out this survey.jk i would like inmates all over the world to fill it out. oh and GD and everyone else, please give some reasons for your answers. thanks a bunch!

[edit] Damn! Reasons too? Pushy ain't we? [/edit]

1.Tight control? No. Some reasonable control? Yes
For an explanation of this, read my post here.

2.No
I think that an uneducated public is dangerous to the public, but guns, simply by themselves, are no more dangerous to the public than shovels, computers or a spoon.

3.Yes
I got shot once, by a shotgun, from about 70 m or so. Made my left arm and part of my back a bloody mess. It sucked. Renegade pissed off farmer with an attitude...thought he'd be tough by shooting a kid. I don't think he's tough. I think he's an ass.

4.No
Idiots who don't know how to handle their tempers shouldn't be allowed to participate in society. It wasn't the gun's fault nor was it any right-minded gun owner's fault. If the jackass wouldn't have had a gun he would have tried to run me over with his pickup or maybe he would have tried to chop my leg off with an axe. Whichever way you slice it, life was just simply going to suck for me for a while 'cuz of a pea-brain hick. I'm alive and my arm works great now...that's all I can ask for.

5.No
I've used a knife, a MagLite, a couple beer bottles and my handy steel-toed boots for defense (and the best defense ever -- run like hell), but never a gun.

6.Yes
I've shot rifles and shotguns at targets and clay pigeons for years. Never been hunting. Never shot a handgun.

7.Everyone? Like mentally handicap and known violent criminals? Crime rates would likely rise, maybe stay the same.

8.Not likely, but the jury is still out.
I don't know for sure. Studies seem to point at a few different phenomenon...but nothing's certain yet. I think, probably, that high exposure to violent acts with little/no frame of reference (stable home with good parental/leadership influence) probably stacks the deck. Still, you play the hand you're dealt.

9.No
Weapons have been part of human culture since the very first day one of our primate ancestors picked up a stick to chase off a tiger cub looking for his first independent meal. It would be inconceivable to imagine a document of any significant length, at any point in history, not mentioning weapons of some sort or another.

10. --N/A--
First of all, I don't buy that 'statistics CLEARLY show...' [my own emphasis added]. I've rarely known statistics to CLEARLY show anything.
Secondly, I'm not opposed to guns.

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1. Tight? No. TightER? Yes. More education in terms of gun safety? Definitely.
2. Depends on whose hands they're in. For the most part, yes they are.
3. Yes. Uncle lost his right eye (to a pellet gun), and a cousin of mine was shot while hunting.
4. Yes. People need to have the proper training before even picking up a gun - neither of the two people firing the gun in my example did.
5. No. Would I? Depends on a) If I ever get a gun, and b) the situation.
6. Yes. Hunting.
7. It'd probably go up. There was just an armed robbery at a bookstore here the other day, and I wouldn't be surprised if there were more if more people were allowed to have guns.
8. This is a subject I feel strongly about; the parents play a much larger role here than the video games. My answer is yes, but only if the parents did not fulfill their responsibilities in teaching their children the differences between right/wrong, reality/fantasy, etc.
9. The bible does not affect my life in any way, shape, or form (except when Christians/Mormons/Catholics are interrupting me as I'm on my way to class - no offense to members of said religions).
10. "PLEASE RE-ANSWER QUESTION 10 EVERYONE PLEASE!" No. I don't see any need for a gun in my life right now, nor in the near future.



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ok im reading a book called The Bias Against Guns by John R. Lott Jr. its full of statistics (which were not made up) but they are in graph form so i cant like write it down here but ill just say what it means. well basically what it says is that in states with out the right to carry arms that changed to thr right to carry arms, the crime rates dropped dramatically. Really, if you want to be totally proved wrong, read that book. basically everyhting youve heard from anti-gunners is false, and biased.

I didn't hear anything from anti-gunners, and I have no qualms over being proved completely wrong (it's happened before).

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Statistics, unless recorded in a strictly controlled environment such as a laboratory, don't really mean anything.

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It's 100% possible that among those areas from which the statistics were taken, there may have been some other causation to the low crime rates. I don't believe there has been a study that shows a higher gun count directly causing a lower crime rate. It comes down to a measure of correlation, which means that some variable z causes x and y, as opposed to x causing y.

Anyway, I diverge. Back to the survey.

1. Yes - it has worked well here in the UK but where guns are everywhere it would be a more difficult process so some places would suit different levels.

2. Yes.

3. Yes - a family friends soon once accidentally killed his friend when out hunting. When things were getting out of control in the UK I was shot at and a number of friends were threatened with guns.

4. Not really - I have a low opinion of them anyway.

5. I have never touched a working gun.

6. See answer to 5.

7. I'm not sure about crime overall but gun related crime would go through the roof and petty ciminals would carry guns on crimes where they never would have before - this was the way things were going here before the current gun laws (gun crime has risen but that has tended to remain between gangs).

8. I suspect violence in movies may make some people more violent (I'm not sure guns are as bad in movies as more physical violence like people getting punched and kiced).

9. No. Why should they?

10. What are the deaths by shooting like? And as Amerasu said - show us the numbers!!

[edit: New answer to 10:
No ]

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FAQs: Emperor

1. Absolutely, I think mobrul's posting in the NRA thread explained this well.

2. Yes and No, Idiots with guns are dangerous to the general public

3. I had a friend hurt his toe dropping his gun on it but I don't think that counts

4. Yes we are much more carefull when playing catch with a Glock now

5. Nope

6. I shot one at a target a couple of times as a boy scout. (Note the target was never in any danger and walked away unscathed).

7. Not a damn thing

8. Not half as much as bad parenting does.

9. Unless those are the parts that explain the 11th through 15th commandments about guns, knives and biological weapons and I missed it then no. (bonus to anyone who knows the movie refrence here)

10. Actually that statistic is only relevant in the United States and relatively small suburban communities Internationally it doesn't hold up, and in fact the opposite has been proven true in australia. (This argument about gun control versus gun ownership and crime rates in the US is moot since we can only test one side. You have to realize this isn't judging crime rates in communities with no guns versus communities with guns, it's about a community with guns versus a community that has some sort of kneecapped half-ass regulation. It's been impossible to outlaw guns in a community and see the effects) And not to mention even if that statistic is true I don't know how I feel about living in a community where there is less crime because every fool is strapping a gun on thier waist. I can deal with some petty theft if it means I can get in a drunken bar brawl without worrying about everyone pulling out thier piece on the drop of a dime



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1. Do you think there should be tight gun control?
no - but i believe that you should have to take a saftey course and/or register your gun.

2. do you think guns are generally dangerous to the public?
no

3. has some you have known ever been killed/injured from a gun?
yes - a friend shot himself and another friend died from an accidental shooting

4. if so, did it change the way you think about guns in terms of their safety?
no

5. have you ever used a gun in self defense?
yes - there was a bear coming in the back door

6. have you ever used a gun for reasons other than self defense?
yes - i hunt and also like target shooting and attending dynamite shoots

7. what do you think would happen to crime rates in your area if guns were allowed fgor everyone over 21 (and requires a permit to carry)
for *my* area...nothing would really change. i know that in montana, if you're a minor, you have to take a hunters saftey course to get a hunting license. you can't take hunters saftey until you're 12. and you have to carry that permit around with you until you're 18.

8. do you think guns in movies and video games influence our children to commit acts of violence?
no

9. do verses in the Bible like Genesis 27:3 and Genesis 48:22 concerning weapons change your about guns?
not at all

10. Statistics clearly show that crime rates are lower where guns are allowed. If you are opposed to guns, what do you say in defense of this?
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lol Kevin G There's a statistic that says that there are more drowning deaths occur when people eat more ice cream too (true). Does this mean you shouldn't eat ice cream? You just think it's safe because of someone's bias?

Statistics on an argument like this are so subjective they're almost not worth mentioning I can get statistics in triplicate supporting every side of this argument



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1. No
2. No
3. Yes
4. No
5. No
6. Yes
7. Drop
8. No
9. No
10. N/A

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[damn, bitdamaged beat me to it.]

KevinG:
I believe you when you say that you are reading a book that has statistics x, y, and z.
I also believe that they weren't 'made up'.
To illustrate the point Raptor is trying to make, let me show you a couple of statistics that are absolutely not made up.

From the months of May-Sept in St. Louis, my hometown, the price of ice cream rises about 5% over the price for the months Oct-April.
From the months of May-Sept in St. Louis, my hometown, the incidents of rape rise approximately 5% over those of the months Oct-April.
One could draw a conclusion, then, that every 1% increase in price of ice cream causes a 1% increase of incidents of rape.

Obviously, that is silly. The real case is that summer raises both demand for ice cream and opportunity for rape (and other crime, as the entire crime rate rises each summer.)

Correlation != Causation

It's not that the statistics are 'wrong', but it still takes a human to interpret those results. Sometimes that interpretation can be wrong. May or may not be in your particular case. Either way, the moral of the story is to read 'statistics' with a bit of scepticism and a working brain.



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Opinions from France

1. Do you think there should be tight gun control?
Yes, no one should be allowed to own a gun.

2. do you think guns are generally dangerous to the public?
Yes, guns are used to kill, so WHY wouldn't they be dangerous ?

3. has some you have known ever been killed/injured from a gun?
No

4. if so, did it change the way you think about guns in terms of their safety?
No

5. have you ever used a gun in self defense?
No

6. have you ever used a gun for reasons other that self defense?
No

7. what do you think would happen to crime rates in your area if guns were allowed for everyone over 21 (and requires a permit to carry)
It would increase.

8. do you think guns in movies and video games influence our children to commit acts of violence?
No, the only real problem is bound to humans, as they tend to be violent. This is their nature, and that won't change in a while. Seeing violence in video games does not influence persons to commit violence, in fact it generally helps them to get of their natural violence.

9. do verses in the Bible like Genesis 27:3 and Genesis 48:22 concerning weapons change your about guns?
No

10. Statistics clearly show that crime rates are lower where guns are allowed. If you are opposed to guns, what do you say in defense of this?
Oww many things can be said about that
First, statistics are what they are : statistics. As a mathematic student, I can tell you I will never even begin to trust a satistic unless I'm given the concerned people, the location of the poll, and the variance, and the typical swing.
Then, do the crime rate means violence ? No. Crime rate maybe means they are less crimes, but I think on the contrary these crimes are more and more violent.
And last of all, trusting that allowing guns makes the crime rates to diminish is stupid. If you give someone a weapon, not matter his/her intelligence, the situation, the events, it will inevitably get used in the future. And this must not be.

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gun control? Definatly other silliness... I'm moving this.

1. Do you think there should be tight gun control?
2. do you think guns are generally dangerous to the public?
3. has some you have known ever been killed/injured from a gun?
4. if so, did it change the way you think about guns in terms of their safety?
5. have you ever used a gun in self defense?
6. have you ever used a gun for reasons other that self defense?
7. what do you think would happen to crime rates in your area if guns were allowed fgor everyone over 21 (and requires a permit to carry)
8. do you think guns in movies and video games influence our children to commit acts of violence?
9. do verses in the Bible like Genesis 27:3 and Genesis 48:22 concerning weapons change your about guns?
10. Statistics clearly show that crime rates are lower where guns are allowed. If you are opposed to guns, what do you say in defense of this?


1) Yes, why having rules about building houses, cars, driving license, drinking alcohol etc. etc. for safety reasons. While people can buy this very dangerous thing at the corner off the street? That don't make sense to me.

2) They are designed to kill or to hurt, so this must be yes.

3) Nope

4) No i can't imagine i would be pro guns after such thing happens.

5) Nope and i am not going to either. (i hope)

6) see 5

7) I think a lot off the little criminals would feel a lot stronger and would be eager to show this off.
Which would let the crime rate explode. Since shooting at someone is a crime in itself and trying to hurt or to kill someone is also a big crime (murder and attempt to murder etc.) there would be even more crime.

8) They learn to recognize it, and they learn what could be done with them. So yes it influences them, but it would be hard to say they are inspired to use violence. However if children (and the adults which grow from them) ever come in a stituation where (they think) violence is needed they know a gun can be handy to do so.
Also when children grow up in a surrounding with a lot off guns they are more used to them and and probaly use them faster/easier then children who did not .

9) Since i had to look this up this would be a no, the bible is not realy that importand to me.
I try however to use "moses top-ten" as a guide.

10) Show me the stats, let know how this study is done, let me do my on study.
And do not forget this saying: "There is lies, there is damn-lies and there is statistics"
Also i could say: "So crime rates are dropped? Probably they all shot each other..." (sarcastic)
or
"Did you also studied the hospital ratings for shot-wounds in that area?"
and
"In what time frame did this happen, a year , a month a week? And what about the long term, say 20 years?"

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1. Yes.

2. In the hands of people who are not police or military, yes.

3. No.

4. N/A

5. No.

6. Shot a bolt action .22 at camp once. On a range. At a paper target.

7. Crimes rates? I doubt much would happen with that. As DL quite accurately said, guns don't change the ways criminals think. I do, however, believe that it would change the nature of many crimes.

8. Depends on how it is portrayed, but generally no. I'm a very avid, competitive player of FPS's and well. . . obviously. . .

9. I'm not as much opposed to hunting, and very much opposed to demilitarization. So, no.

10. Statistics would also probably show that I do better on tests that I don't study for. Too many factors involved to be totally accurate.

1: Yes
2: Yes
3: Yes
4: No
5: No
6: No
7: A slow, steady increase in crime.
8: If children are shown that life is cheap, they will regard it so.
9: No
10: I'm sorry? Murder is lower in Dallas than in London?

heh just found i cant delete posts so i will jus erase it.....

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You use what they have in other countries. Those bulletproof shields that come up out of the counter. And the locking doors to keep the bad guy locked in until the police come. And, when the bad guy gets caught with the gun, it is outright illegal and he gets a harsher sentence.

lol yeah that would be cool spyx, but how many banks have those fancy security systems? heh that would cool if they all did though.

Almost all banks and building societies have them here in the UK.

sweet. never seen one like that here in the US.

ahem, lets get back to topic here now.

ah the old if guns were outlaws then only outlaws will have guns argument, you're not treading any new territory with this so called logic. The logical flaw in this argument is that if guns were outlawed it would be significantly harder for that criminal to get their hands on guns. Therefore fewer criminals with guns. I mean if we want to make hypotheticals we can just say that the society enforces the anti gun legislation so vigorously that only 10% of the criminals that used to have guns can now get their hands on them (supply and demand here, outlawed guns would be ridiculously expensive)

You are making it sound like all the criminals that previously had guns would still have them and that's not the case.


Here's another true story for you. A guy walks into a gun store, and buys a gun. Now him and his nephew/friend/cousin whatever start driving through the Washington D.C area and starts randomly shooting school kids as they go to class.

Or two kids go to a gun show, buy a couple of legal guns and a $15 kit to make them fully automatic then walk into their schools and shoot 30-40 people killing 15 before killing themselves. (your not suggesting high school kids should go to school armed right?)



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1. Do you think there should be tight gun control?
NO, Because banning access to guns would only effect the law biding public.


2. Do you think guns are generally dangerous to the public?
NO,

3. Has some you have known ever been killed/injured from a gun?
NO,

4. If so, did it change the way you think about guns in terms of their safety?
NA

5. Have you ever used a gun in self defense?
NO, I do own several and would use them if necessary.

6. Have you ever used a gun for reasons other that self defense?
YES, Target shooting and Skeet.

7. What do you think would happen to crime rates in your area if guns were allowed for everyone over 21 (and requires a permit to carry)

Well That depends on how you define "everyone", If this includes mentally ill and those with criminal backgrounds then perhaps there would be a increase, but I don't think I would be a perceable increase as most criminals all ready have access to weapons.


8. Do you think guns in movies and video games influence our children to commit acts of violence?
NO,

9. Do verses in the Bible like Genesis 27:3 and Genesis 48:22 concerning weapons change your about guns?
NO,

10. Statistics clearly show that crime rates are lower where guns are allowed. If you are opposed to guns, what do you say in defense of this?
NA



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Bitdamaged - I find it humorous that everyone says that fewer criminals will have guns if guns are outlawed... If guns are outlawed... wouldn't everyone who had a gun BE a criminal? Sounds like 100% of the people with guns, excluding the military and police I suppose, would be criminals. Realistically I don't see the removal of guns from the hands of those who have them elgally stopping anybody. Most people with guns feel strongly enough about it that they will BECOME a criminal in order to keep a gun to protect themselves. Criminals are already getting their guns from secondary sources. It would be foolish to assume they all, or even most of them, come from gun shops.

GrythusDraconis
"I'm sick of hearing that beauty is only skin-deep. That's deep enough. Who wants an adorable pancreas?" - Unknown

Kevin G:

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ok thanks for filling out my survey, your help will get me an A+! hehe.

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You are already looking at a B- as:

1. Question 10 is clearly biased.

2. You have clearly made up your mind already.

3. Posting arguements against gun control whilst asking people their opinions would invalidate any results you gain - its like the opinion poll people sitting their going 'Yes but.....' as you were trying to fill out a questionnare.

Actually now I read that pos. C might be closer to the mark.

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FAQs: Emperor

a few asked does this mean everyone, including the mentally ill and people with criminal backrounds? no, of course im for backround checks, and if they dont meet the requirements (no history of crime, no mental problems) then they could get a gun. but then theres the factor that a lot of shhotings are from teens in gangs who dont have a history of crime. honestly theres nothing that can be done about that (no, not even banning guns, everyone knows you can get guns from unliscened dealers, or just off the street, something which will continue to take place even if guns are banned) oh and to people who say the studies with people get their statistics vary on location, year, in every single study, everywhere in the US (havent done any research on places outside the US) in every location, and time, crime rates decreased. and to the guy who talked about someone who bought a gun and went around shooting people, that is a perfect example of how dangerous guns are. what can we do about it? nothing (as previously stated) besides, i could do the same thing with a knife.

whoops something weird happened here. jus NM

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ahhh ok. i see. i will delete all posts containing bias, and possible change question 10. thank you for you advice/bad news for me, mr. emps......one more thing, (not sure if it really matters) anything other than the answers you have for my questions will not be used in my paper. just think of it like anything else i said was a different argument...or maybe not, but hey dudes im only in 8th grade here.

1. Do you think there should be tight gun control?
YES, we have tight gun control here, and there is very little gun-related crime

2. Do you think guns are generally dangerous to the public?
YES, as their whole purpose is to be dangerous.

3. Has some you have known ever been killed/injured from a gun?
NO, I´m assuming because there are very few guns around

4. If so, did it change the way you think about guns in terms of their safety?
N/A

5. Have you ever used a gun in self defense?
NO, never had any

6. Have you ever used a gun for reasons other that self defense?
NO, see 5.

7. What do you think would happen to crime rates in your area if guns were allowed for everyone over 21 (and requires a permit to carry)
INCREASE, as I don´t think guns help to prevent crime, but they open up lots of new possibilities for crime

8. Do you think guns in movies and video games influence our children to commit acts of violence?
NO, with some exceptions

9. Do verses in the Bible like Genesis 27:3 and Genesis 48:22 concerning weapons change your about guns?
NO, I don´t read the bible

10. Statistics clearly show that crime rates are lower where guns are allowed. If you are opposed to guns, what do you say in defense of this?
If this were true, crime rates in the US would be the lowest in the world. They aren´t.

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10. Statistics clearly show that crime rates are lower where guns are allowed. If you are opposed to guns, what do you say in defense of this?
If this were true, crime rates in the US would be the lowest in the world. They aren´t.


thats because only 35? states allow handguns to be carried. and in those states crime rates are low compared to when they did not have the right to carry handguns. ok better stop i think this whole thing is getting to biased on my part. id better stop sayinf stuff now.

1. Do you think there should be tight gun control?
No. Tighter maybe... (better background checks, registration etc...)

2. do you think guns are generally dangerous to the public?
No more so than your handy dandy butcher knife... or innocent bystanding rock. Anything can become a weapon. It's the people that are dangerous to the public. (What was that line from MIB? "People are panicky, stupid..." I forget the rest.)


3. has some you have known ever been killed/injured from a gun?
Yes. 2 killed, one injured. 1 death, accidental hunting accident from mishandling the weapon, 1 suicide. Injury-combat related.


4. if so, did it change the way you think about guns in terms of their safety?
No. If you pay the weapon it's proper respect, and follow basic safety guidelines, then the gun won't hurt you. With regards to the suicide... if not a gun, than something else.

5. have you ever used a gun in self defense?
No. But would if I had to.


6. have you ever used a gun for reasons other that self defense?
Yes. Target shooting, and hunting clay pigeons. They're a menace, I tell ya.


7. what do you think would happen to crime rates in your area if guns were allowed fgor everyone over 21 (and requires a permit to carry)
Not a whole heck of a lot, given that most people over the age of 21 in my area that want to carry guns, do.


8. do you think guns in movies and video games influence our children to commit acts of violence?
No. Negligence influences our children to commit acts of violence.


9. do verses in the Bible like Genesis 27:3 and Genesis 48:22 concerning weapons change your about guns?

Um, No.

10. if you dont have a gun, would you consider getting one? (with a permit of course)
Yes.


(edit: one of these days I'll remember the difference between than and then! )


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1. Do you think there should be tight gun control? No. IMHO (and experience) that only leads to only criminals having guns.


2. do you think guns are generally dangerous to the public? No. I think people that are willing to use guns against other people is generally dangerous to the public.


3. has some you have known ever been killed/injured from a gun? Yes.


4. if so, did it change the way you think about guns in terms of their safety? No. A gun is just a tool, like any other. People kill people.


5. have you ever used a gun in self defense? Yes. In the Gulf War and also against dangerous animals in the wilderness.


6. have you ever used a gun for reasons other that self defense? Yes. I used to hunt quite a lot...and I also tend to spend a lot of time in the wilderness. A gun is a great tool for signaling...


7. what do you think would happen to crime rates in your area if guns were allowed fgor everyone over 21 (and requires a permit to carry) I certainly have no idea...I'm not really sure if there is a direct link between gun possession and crime rate.

8. do you think guns in movies and video games influence our children to commit acts of violence? Absolutely not. The decision to actually use violence is a personal choice, IMHO. I think this is more a question of upbringing and environment.


9. do verses in the Bible like Genesis 27:3 and Genesis 48:22 concerning weapons change your about guns? Absolutely not.


10. if you dont have a gun, would you consider getting one? (with a permit of course) PLEASE RE-ANSWER QUESTION 10 EVERYONE PLEASE! Yes and yes.

A small note relating to Germany - gun-related crimes have exploded recently in Germany...I think this is because of the introduction of Russians and Polish moving into Germany, and the easy availablility of gun-type weapons on the 'black market' from Russia, the old DDR and the old Soviet 'states', that are now countries of their own right...and the 'arms race' under the criminals because of this. Many Police here are now scared to dickens...because many have been shot in the line of duty. Many Germans do not realize this, because it doesn't get much press...I would suggest talking to any policeman/woman that one knows...

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10. if you dont have a gun, would you consider getting one? (with a permit of course) PLEASE RE-ANSWER QUESTION 10 EVERYONE PLEASE!

No, I have zero need or desire for a gun.

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A small note relating to Germany - gun-related crimes have exploded recently in Germany...I think this is because of the introduction of Russians and Polish moving into Germany, and the easy availablility of gun-type weapons on the 'black market' from Russia, the old DDR and the old Soviet 'states', that are now countries of their own right...and the 'arms race' under the criminals because of this. Many Police here are now scared to dickens...because many have been shot in the line of duty. Many Germans do not realize this, because it doesn't get much press...I would suggest talking to any policeman/woman that one knows...

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Well, I don´t know any police people. But it seems to me that this so-called explosion of gun-related crime is still on a low level. The average mugging still doesn´t usually involve a gun, nor do we have 16-year olds fighting gang wars with uzis. And most bank robberies are still done with fake guns. The "arms race" is mostly limited to organized crime.

Well, that's the point, MW...it's mostly the criminals doing crimes with guns...

But yes, you have a point - it is mostly organized crime...