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DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 10-31-2003 17:57

With the blatant lack of true distinction between good and evil in the 'living' world, what makes you think that the 'spirit' world would be so different as to have a 'light' and a 'dark' side?



jade
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: houston, tx usa
Insane since: Mar 2003

posted posted 10-31-2003 19:37

Well before we get into that DL what distinction do you make between good & evil? If you do at all. Do you not believe in the powers of darkness? What would make someone commit an evil act?



DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 10-31-2003 20:23

I think it would be nearly impossible to actualy designate "this is good" and "this is evil".

I don't think things can be made that black and white, and I think that an attempt to do so would only be harmful (in fact history has shown this to be the case repeatedly).

Do I beleive in the "powers of darkness"? No...

DO I believe that people are inately capable of great evil, or of great goodness? Absolutely.

Why do they do such things? I can't really answer that. The human mind is a terrible and a wondrous thing...there is so much that we don't understand about it still. What makes a sociopath? What makes a generally 'good' person commit an 'evil' act? These are things that we have come quite a way toward understanding, but nowhere near completely.



jade
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: houston, tx usa
Insane since: Mar 2003

posted posted 10-31-2003 21:56

I think it would be nearly impossible to actualy designate "this is good" and "this is evil".

I don't think things can be made that black and white, and I think that an attempt to do so would only be harmful (in fact history has shown this to be the case repeatedly).



Well I don't understand why you state this. Even pre-k kids know the difference between black & white.. Who determines it for you. You?

Well..... Do you think Charles Manson was born with an abnormal evil brain? Or maybe it could be in the chemistry of his brain that made him do such bad evil acts? I find that hard to believe. How someone can be so evil like Scott Peterson to do such an evil act and feel no remorse and we blame it on the complicated brain. Evil has to originate from somewhere out there. Evil doesn't exist for the sake of it. One of the reasons I think we give in to evil because most of the time it promises us false delight and satisfacation or power over someone or something.
We have to know in our hearts its a wrong evil act but willfully do it anyway. Scott Perterson wanted to be with another woman and knew with his wife out of the picture, he would find happiness with the new one so he killed for it. The children killer, Sharon Smith drowned her children because her new rich boyfriend didn't want childern so she killed to find happiness with the boyfriend, etc and so on. Now I know we cannot determine the heart of a person because of their circumstances or out of ignorance to the law of goodness, but thats has to be in rare cases when one doesn't know if an act is evil. For me the Lord of the Darkness rules only when we give into the power it posesses, which is only as strong as we allow it to be.

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 10-31-2003 23:40
quote:
Even pre-k kids know the difference between black & white..



Ok. And please explain to me how this has *anything* to do with......anything....?

IF the world was simply black and white, then we'd be all set.
Unfortunately, it is not.

Trying to make it so when it is not is one of the things that I would consider evil. If not overtly so, then at least in that it most often leads to evil deeds in the name of 'good'.

quote:
We have to know in our hearts its a wrong evil act but willfully do it anyway.



Sometimes yes. Sometimes no.
It's *not* black and white. Making it so makes it easier for your conscience and your intellect to accept that we simply punish those who do wrong.



Ruski
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted posted 11-01-2003 02:37

Jade, in my opinion there is no such a thing as good and evil. I personally think its either insanity or greed. These are the first things that lead people commit "evil" stuff, someone simply might want to have something and the only way to get it ...well could be cheating, murder, stealing, whatever... Other times people like sadistic murderesrs or so, such as Son of Sam, etc. Are simply insane, they probably have certain disorder that lead them to commit those things...once again could also have more reasons than that.
Also I think insecurity might be part of it. It relates especially to younger people, sometimes you feel hate for someone and you simply cannot control your mind...might as well murder him or beat him to death....

I watch alot of Law and Order. I remember there was an episode where catholic priest killed a drug dealer, admited it and still refused to confess that he was guilty...funny thing huh? sometimes people think they do the "right thing" always what suits them best...
the story was fiction of course, but is inspired by true story. =)

WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 11-01-2003 09:29

First of all, I whole-heartedly applaud DL for his posts - very well said. I agree with most of them. I don't personally believe in Good or Evil, more, they are relative as seen through the eyes of the viewer. From one perspective, evil is good and vice versa.

As for what the spirits were, that I encountered? Simply that, spirits. Some take animal forms, some have no set form...some have remotely human-like form...maybe it depends on the viewer, I don't know. I am certainly no expert on this area. Some are tricky, some dangerous, others mischievious, some helpful. I have never met a human spirit.

[This message has been edited by WebShaman (edited 11-01-2003).]

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