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DocOzone
Maniac (V) Lord Mad Scientist
Sovereign of all the lands Ozone and just beyond that little green line over there...

From: Stockholm, Sweden
Insane since: Mar 1994

posted posted 06-04-2000 11:46

Argh!!! I hate this, I really hate this. The Korean web thief is ack, at http://kr06.piahost.net/~cpman/ - I'm getting annoyed. I got a series of notes from a few people originally, first he had stolen someone elses site, and after a lot of grief, he finally pulled it. And replaced it. With my site.

kim1104@hanmail.net is the loser who is responsible for this, and he seems to be associated with four Korean politicos, kdhyun@kdhyun.co.kr , sshan@assembly.go.kr , hksohn@thrunet.com and kdudrhs@media2002.or.kr . I am going to enter into this fray in a very public manner today, with a big fat link off of my main page, and a helpful series of links to mail all of these c*****ns directly. Maybe they will wake up when their mailboxes become unmanageable.


Your pal, -doc-<P>

Maa
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: Sweden
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 06-04-2000 13:00

Ohhh man... They never stop doing this. We really know how you feel. We sure will send them an e-mail.

You always try to keep your head high and don't want to ackt like a kid but for sure it has to stop somewhere and I promise you I'm not the nice Maa anymore.

I hate it and wish someone could take them to court to make an example for others that if you don't do what you need to do it will COST !!!

allgood2
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Sweden
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 06-04-2000 13:53

Sorry to hear they got you too DOC. We know what you are going throguh cause the same thing has happened to us as you already know. For us it's the third time this week so, we have taking the links away to our graphic screenshots we had in our for sale gallery. It's a shame we can't show our work without someone taking it after all the hard work we have put into it and then they come along and get it and put it up in a minute or so and say it's theirs. I hope that on our end we nail this guy good for an example to all the thieves who steal hard working designers work. Hey Doc, do you know of anyone who has taken a thief to court?

/Allgood

Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 06-04-2000 17:38

Pardon my ignorance, but why would someone do this twice in a row? That's gotta be frustrating. Good luck getting that taken care of.

F1_error
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: EN27
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 06-04-2000 18:34

This could be very interesting, if memory serves me correct Korea is one of those countries that does not recognize copyright. (I could be wrong with that, but I know that there are a few Asian countries that don't recognize copyright.)

If we jump on your band-wagon Doc is there anything specific you would like us to say, or would you rather we just send hate mail in general?

Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 06-04-2000 20:26

Hey! What's this? I went to the page again and it popped up something written in a language that I can't read (korean i guess), and asked me to type *something* in. I hit enter, it brought up another alert box that i couldn't read, and skipped past the stolen page into the site. What's with that?

F1_error
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: EN27
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 06-04-2000 20:34

Interesting if I enter "0000" into the alert box it meta refreshes me to Hansung University. If I try to ignore the box it takes me to http://www.keji.or.kr. Either way the page is gone.

Source of http://kr06.piahost.net/~cpman/ :
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN">
<html>
<head>
<title>vision21</title>
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="2;url=http://www.hansung.ac.kr">
<meta name="generator" content="Namo WebEditor v3.0">
<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript">
var pass1 = "bellsouth"
var pass1 = prompt("ºñ¹Ð¹øÈ£¸¦ ÀÔ·ÂÇØ ÁÖ¼¼¿ä!","ºñ¹Ð¹øÈ£¸¦ ÀÔ·ÂÇØ ÁÖ¼¼¿ä!")
if (pass1 =="0000") {
(confirm("¾È³çÇϼ¼¿ä. ¿©±â´Â ȸ¿øÀü¿ë Æ÷·³ÀåÀÔ´Ï´Ù."))
}
else{alert("Á˼ÛÇÕ´Ï´Ù. ¿©±â´Â ȸ¿øÀü¿ë Æ÷·³ÀåÀÔ´Ï´Ù.")
location.href="http://www.keji.or.kr"
}
</SCRIPT></head>
<body bgcolor="white" text="black" link="blue" vlink="purple" alink="red">
<p>&nbsp;</p>
</body>
</html>

Did we win?

DocOzone
Maniac (V) Lord Mad Scientist
Sovereign of all the lands Ozone and just beyond that little green line over there...

From: Stockholm, Sweden
Insane since: Mar 1994

posted posted 06-04-2000 21:15

Yah, looks like we win, sort of. No email reply ever came back to me, but I basically accused all of the politicos of having "no honor", and threatened to make their lack of morals public. The page now acts as a redirect, but I'm going to have place a site watch on the site to monitor changes, they've got a history of doing this. The first I heard of it, they had stolen someone elses site, and after a big hassle they replaced it. With mine. The last time I complained, they took it down but had it back up in a matter of days.

FWIW, I don't know of anyone who has successfully taken one of these guys to court and won. Should be possible, but the folks who do it are all sleazes, and usually fall back on the old "My assistant did it, without my knowledge!" We had the old VISI "punch dagger" interface stolen once upon a time, and the President of VISI was insistent on letting our lawyer handle it. It was just some smart-ass punk, who enjoyed playing games with us, kept moving the page, and finally stole an older version and used that instead! Really, the power of the people and all that, we can get more and better action than any lawyers can. Korea may not belive in copyright LAWS, but they understand pissed off hackers pretty well, I'll bet. Really, a nice hefty barrage of angry emails can work wonders, clog a system, make administrators angry, and get accounts pulled. The internet is not about LAWS, it's about ETIQUETTE, politeness counts, and if they don't belive in that kind of stuff, we'll just have to educate them, hmm?

Your pal, -doc-<P>

2winspapa
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Alaska, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 06-04-2000 22:39

Doc...are you putting that link up on your page so we can barrage all of those responsible...or what's the plan here?

DocOzone
Maniac (V) Lord Mad Scientist
Sovereign of all the lands Ozone and just beyond that little green line over there...

From: Stockholm, Sweden
Insane since: Mar 1994

posted posted 06-05-2000 09:04

Yep, that's the plan. I'm just preparing the framework for the pages at http://www.ozones.com/thief/ - they are very similar to the pages I created once before at http://www.ozones.com/scumbags.html and http://www.ozones.com/warezboyz/ - two very successful attempts to fix the same problem.

The thief is back, they took down the one page, and simply moved it into a more prime entry point to their site, accessable from their top domain at http://www.media2002.or.kr/arscall/ - I hate this shit.

Your pal, -doc-<P>

Skaarjj
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: :morF
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 06-05-2000 12:22

Personally, I know that if we were to all find a time where we could send an email at about the same time, it would flood their server, and that would make them sit up and pay attention.

Long live the Cyber War! Until it's Dead!

<img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">




Lepricosa...The Leprosy Ointment. For when your not half the man you used to be.

Skaarjj
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: :morF
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 06-05-2000 12:46

BTW Doc: What is that funky font you used on the warezboys page to say 'WarezBoys Ripped Me Off'? i would love to get that font, I think that it contains much of that wonderful element called cool.




Lepricosa...The Leprosy Ointment. For when your not half the man you used to be.

Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 06-05-2000 18:30

Watch out, Doc - there are tons of JavaScript errors on that page you're making in IE when the mouse moves over the images.

(line 44, char 1, object expected)

Same error with other mouseovers on the images and links under the images, lines 44, 49, 54, and 58. Hopefully this is just from the page not being finished.

bitdamaged
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: 100101010011 <-- right about here
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 06-05-2000 22:50

Hey Doc, I've been off the boards for a while (Ugh, @#$%^ Quicktime SMIL project) But this seems a rampant issue here so I'm sending my nasty letters. I'm tempted to set up a chron job on my Linux box and nail this guy once an hour but I think that would be stooping to his level. The irony here is that his site isn't bad and he doesn't need to set himself up like this. Jeez send Maa or Allgood the 100-300 bucks and buy a nice inexpensive design. Anyeway Just another flame in the fire.

bit


Walking the Earth like Kane

DocOzone
Maniac (V) Lord Mad Scientist
Sovereign of all the lands Ozone and just beyond that little green line over there...

From: Stockholm, Sweden
Insane since: Mar 1994

posted posted 06-05-2000 23:05

Oh yeah, the "thief" pages on my site are just the graphics, and a bunch of code from an older page, with nothing implemented yet. It'd have to error like crazy. I just got a note from the folks at "mynetcentral.com", the guys who host the thief of Allgood and Maa's work, he said "the account of the person who stole his layout was put on hold and will be deleted soon." Good news there. My thief s still active, I get tired of this. The thing is as you've said, their site works fine without my entrance, why do they need to do this?

Your pal, -doc-<P>

allgood2
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Sweden
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 06-06-2000 01:03

Thanks Doc. Yes they had told me that on the letter that they sent to me. We have it where people have to e-mail us to see the full version of the site we have in our for sale gallery...don't know if it best to do that but, we are tired of all this stuff happening and then we have to look like mean people telling them about themself. I hope your problem gets taken care of Doc. Me and Maa mail the people and haven't heard from them. Guess we will do it again. <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif"> Keep up the good work and do what you have to do to get this straighten out.

/Allgood

delphi
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Iceland
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 06-06-2000 19:03

dam cunts and weezers that steal other peoples pages I say HANG THEM HANG THEM
hang them in their beds hang them til they´r dead and then fuck them with a baseballclub

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 06-06-2000 19:24

wow. ouch. <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/redface.gif">

delphi
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Iceland
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 06-07-2000 16:11

I´m sorry guys I know that I shouldn´t usa that kind of language here but this is what I think of these people but...again I´m sorry

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 06-07-2000 19:33

That's ok....it's appropriate from time to time. If Doc *really* didn't want that kind of language he'd just block it out anyway. <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/tongue.gif">

delphi
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Iceland
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 06-08-2000 11:38

yea I goess so. But I thought that maybe doc Ozone would ban me to take more part in this forum

Skaarjj
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: :morF
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 06-08-2000 15:32

Well as DL-44 said, it is appropriate from time to time. But it's like what they say beer should be, taken in moderation. Don't do it often and you most likely won't get banned. After a quick analysis that I did (I have read every post of every thread of every forum, including the archives, I was bored) I'd say less that one in every three hundred posts has language like that in it, and it should stay that way. Everything at the correct time.




Lepricosa...The Leprosy Ointment. For when your not half the man you used to be.

DocOzone
Maniac (V) Lord Mad Scientist
Sovereign of all the lands Ozone and just beyond that little green line over there...

From: Stockholm, Sweden
Insane since: Mar 1994

posted posted 06-08-2000 20:44

Heh. Nobody has ever been banned yet, and I hope it's never necessary. Maybe repeat spammers might get banned? Maybe continually abusive (to our own members!) types might get banned? Maybe folks who espouse violence to ferrets might get banned? (Probably not ;-) People who occasionally get pissed of will not be banned. Please, avoid any mention of President C*****n, and don't use words like **** or *** or ****, and you'll be OK! <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif"> (Those last three words are k e w l - s u x - d e w d)

Your pal, -doc-<P>

allgood2
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Sweden
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 06-08-2000 21:46

Hey Doc...any new update on the thief? I want to know so that we can help you out in any way. They have taken down all my stuff from the other guys site and I know I couldn't have done it without all ya'll. Thanks...but, we have another thief we need to take care of right now. Tell us what you need and you got it.

/Allgood
P.S. Ooops...please don't ask for a million bucks though! <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">

Zoop
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: A Computer
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 06-09-2000 04:37

It's sad that someone doesn't have the patience and creativity to create something unique and inspiring. However, if you want to look at it from a bright side, take it as a compliment, although this doesn't not make it right.

DocOzone
Maniac (V) Lord Mad Scientist
Sovereign of all the lands Ozone and just beyond that little green line over there...

From: Stockholm, Sweden
Insane since: Mar 1994

posted posted 06-09-2000 07:58

Nah, they're still active, at http://www.media2002.or.kr/arscall/

I just haven't had the energy to make their lives miserable, it's a constant drain to be tracking down thieves and such.

Compliments? The best quote I've heard on this one is about the burglar who steals your TV set. Don't be upset, think of it as a compliment!

Your pal, -doc-<P>

2winspapa
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Alaska, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 06-09-2000 08:11

Whoa Doc....****...one thing that *** is spammers who piss off ferrets....stay **** **** <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/wink.gif">



[This message has been edited by 2winspapa (edited 09-06-2000).]

delphi
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Iceland
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 06-09-2000 12:34

How about we all find a time say 3 o clock and we all send theese guys hatemail at the same time. You know spam like you newer spammed before say 50 letters each

eedn
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Midlothian, VA USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 06-09-2000 20:01

I'm curious Doc...how do you find out about this thieving? Does someone inform you or is there some search capability that I'm not aware of?

-------------
Bitte baby, fifteen's my limit on shnitzengrueben.

DocOzone
Maniac (V) Lord Mad Scientist
Sovereign of all the lands Ozone and just beyond that little green line over there...

From: Stockholm, Sweden
Insane since: Mar 1994

posted posted 06-09-2000 21:41

Ah, one of the advantages of having so many people know who I am and what my sites look like! Hmm, maybe that could be why I get ripped this way too, eh? Two-edged sword and all that. In this particular case I was informed by Jann of http://www.RightsForArtists.com - (R.I.G.H.T.S., which is an online education program based on the illegal redistribution of intellectual property.) Jann is just one of the many folks who attempt to keep the net an honest place to be. Check out the site, it's a good place to start.

Your pal, -doc-<P>

RANCID
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Honolulu, Hawaii, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 06-10-2000 16:07

Okay... I know I haven't earned my slime yet, but I will. My work is progressing nicely. I shall submit my new pages for review and comment in the near future. In the meantime, I do have a couple of ideas regarding the infamous Korean Connection. As I wish to join this family, I should consider it an honor to participate in the resolution of conflict born of the cultural differences between the creators and the appropriators. I believe the Korean businessmen are shrewd enough to periodically weigh the benefits of appropriating a well-designed presentation, against the time, energy, and inconvenience of what they experience as a result of their actions. Therefore I propose that a cumulative public outcry of indignation over such dishonorable practices will prove to be the most effective tool at our disposal. Putting aside the issues of right and wrong momentarily, the simple fact is that they have chosen the easy way out by appropriating the work of others. If the cost is too high, then it hardly takes a shrewd businessman to realize that a more profitable course of action would be to find an alternative resource. A combined effort on all our parts will minimize the hardship on an individual's effort to manifest the high cost via public condemnation and repetition. The astute Korean Connection is probably waitng to discover whether they face a single barking dog, or a nest of angry hornets. Personally, I would lock the dog in a room and go about my affairs. The hornets however, would have my undivided attention focused on a more peaceful existence. I hearby announce my intent to keep the buzz alive in my own special way. I hope it helps. Good luck to us all.

WarMage
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Rochester, New York, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 06-10-2000 21:54

Bellow is the message that is being sent back by, ±è´ë¿µ <kim1104@hanmail.net>, a pleasent response see bellow the dotted line.
____________________________________________


fuck you!

you're so late......

are you kidding?

I'm already remove that fucking thing.....

but I appreciate your warnig......

don't send me anything ......

have a nice day..............
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DocOzone
Maniac (V) Lord Mad Scientist
Sovereign of all the lands Ozone and just beyond that little green line over there...

From: Stockholm, Sweden
Insane since: Mar 1994

posted posted 06-11-2000 01:59

Hmm, interesting.
http://www.media2002.or.kr/arscall/

Still online. This guy may no longer host the oages at his own site, like he did at first, did he just transfer them over to his bosses at Media2002? No sympathy for this loser, not from me!

Your pal, -doc-<P>

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