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la-betterave
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Nov 2000

posted posted 11-03-2000 23:47

to hard for poor frenchies to try to understand all the method of dl-44 logo tutorial !!!
don't u know a french version please...
however very nice website..thanks for the ideas...

Rinswind 2th
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Den Haag: The Royal Residence
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 11-04-2000 01:38

he hehe ..... do you know what they say about french in holland???
"They don't like to speak anything else but french" <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/tongue.gif">

i am just kidding you.....


Await the up coming Rinswind site

JakeB
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: us
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 11-04-2000 01:47

have u tried www.altavista.com ? i think it will try to translate pages for you.

OMERA
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 11-05-2000 13:42

Hey, another french boy! I'm no longer alone!! YEAH!!!

(Btw, 'la betterave' = beetroot.

<img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/tongue.gif">


Jestah
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Long Island, NY
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 11-05-2000 18:16

hmmm btw Jestah = Jestah just in case some of you "frencies" didnt know.

Eh the translator might not work all that well with Photoshop terms, OMERA speaks pretty good english, perhaps he could translate it for you...

OMERA
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 11-05-2000 21:12

<img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/biggrin.gif">
Hey jestah, I've just had the same idea! <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">
I was just sitting in front of my screen, drinking root beer, reading some good ps tut's and thought about la-betterave..

And I've had this idea: "why not making a french translation of english tut?"
oO('Yeah, big deal', think jestah)
And, on a second thought, "why not making translation of ALL tut made by ozone loonies?"
That should be pretty cool, no?

And I've seen many good tut' in Guru's site: why not letting me making a french version of all of them? That could be cool, no?
(Hey, why not making a translation of HANDS-on??? puh!)
I'll be proud to serve our little community! <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">

What do you think of that idea?
<img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">


Dan
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 11-05-2000 21:17

I think its a good idea. Go for it!

- Dan -

OMERA
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 11-05-2000 22:10

Ok, so, why not beginning with estah's one?

Can anyone give me the adress wher I can get it? His main site is closed 'for the crowd security'.

<img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/tongue.gif">
<edit> Oh god, where did I saw that french guy was looking for JESTAH's TUT? Holly god, must have been really tired this day... Sorry for that big mistakes <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/tongue.gif"> </edit>


[This message has been edited by OMERA (edited 11-06-2000).]

Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 11-05-2000 22:45

Sounds like quite a task. How will we set this up in the folder structure of GN?

Dan
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 11-05-2000 22:59

We'll get him to write a little disclaimer in french, and we can make a french tutorial section, and put it in the meta tags to attract some frenchies.

- Dan -

DocOzone
Maniac (V) Lord Mad Scientist
Sovereign of all the lands Ozone and just beyond that little green line over there...

From: Stockholm, Sweden
Insane since: Mar 1994

posted posted 11-06-2000 08:13

French Hands-On? French GurusNetwork? I have to wonder just how readable this is, but services like this have been getting pretty big lately. The guys who wrote this one seem to use the Hands-On archives as a test bed, I've gotten a lot of hits from them throughout there beta test period.



Your pal, -doc-

OMERA
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 11-06-2000 09:10

Ha!
Happy you found that one a good idea! <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">
So yeah, hard work in sight, but never been afraid by hard work! <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">

Haem, do, the translator you've linked above is good, I must admit, yeah, but it's * always* an automatic translator... meaning it does remain meaningless, sometimes...

For tuts, I don't think translators will help. They have a godamn habit, translating even non-translatable things (have a good laugh when I saw 'Photoshop' translated by 'magasin de photo' some time ago..)
For thechnical things, I really think that translators are not the best solution. Human still needed! <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">

OMERA
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 11-06-2000 09:17

Hu, forgotted to say that I wait for your propositions!

Don't want to make a basic translation; it must fit in the design and in the directory structure, as said above. Yeah, a french introduction would be nice!

Gurus, you can mail me and we can make this one real! <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">
Wait for news!


OMERA ~ the romantic dreamer ~



la-betterave
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Nov 2000

posted posted 11-06-2000 10:15

Ouais je pense que la traduction HUMAINE est réellement nécessaire, après avoir été sur le Hands-On français auquel je n'est strictement rien compris......
De +, comme l'a dit Dan ,ça ne refoulera pas les p'tits Frenchies qui s'aventurent par ici...et j'ai déjà mailé l'adresse à de nombreux potes !
Alors GO GO GO Omera..et merci d'avance

Oups sorry for the non-frenchies...:
The HUMAN translating is absolutely necessary coz the French Hands-On can't be understood ( it's translating word bty word and give lots of errors) !
And like Dan said, it can attract lots of Frenchies... so GO Omera,

U' LL BECOME OUR FRENCH GOD !!!

OMERA
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 11-06-2000 11:25

FRENCH Version: A ben ça, si ça fait pas plaisir de lire un peu de texte en français dans cet asile de dingue <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/biggrin.gif">

Oui, et bien j'espère que je pourrais traduire rapidement et fidèlement ces merveilleux petits turoriaux! Car il faut vraiment avouer que handson est une référence (si ce n'est LA référence) pour toute personne découvrant photoshop et souhaitant faire des graphismes de qualité professionelle rapidement.
Alors à bientôt la betterave! <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/wink.gif">
PS: chui pas un dieu et le serais jamais...

ENGLISH Version: So, yeah, if it doesn't make me pleasure to read a little bit of french in that Asylum! <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">

Yes, so I hope I would quickly make a good and accurate traduction of that rocking tuts! Because we must admit that handson is a reference (if it's not THE reference) for the ones who discovered photoshop and wish to make professional-looking designs quiclky.

So, see ya la betterave! <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/wink.gif">
PS: 'mnot a god and never will be ...

Petskull
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: 127 Halcyon Road, Marenia, Atlantis
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 11-06-2000 15:58

speaking of french (or, speaing IN french), how do you say 'night' in french?

tskull@techie.com">
"A kleptomaniac is a person who helps himself because he can't help himself." --Henry Morgan
ICQ: 67751342

Shiiizzzam
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Nurse's Station
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 11-06-2000 16:01

http://www.freetranslation.com/

This is a fun thing to try....

OMERA
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 11-06-2000 17:03

Night = nuit.

Midnight = minuit.

<img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">

hyperbole
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Madison, Indiana, USA
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 11-06-2000 21:59

If you cook Uncle Ben's at midnight you have minuit rice.

DocOzone
Maniac (V) Lord Mad Scientist
Sovereign of all the lands Ozone and just beyond that little green line over there...

From: Stockholm, Sweden
Insane since: Mar 1994

posted posted 11-06-2000 22:47

And if you play the wrong music you get minuet rice, heh. I agree with the human touch, it's essential for making things really snap into place in folks heads. I'm looking forward to this, this is something that's been discussed before, but never really got off the ground. GO OMERA!

Your pal, -doc-

JakeB
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: us
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 11-06-2000 23:27

what about translating the text in the images?(since they are the links to the tuts)

OMERA
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 11-07-2000 07:59

Ok, I've finished to translate the DLL-44 logo tutorial. I've translated Ozone's handson dropshadow too, and basic javascript rollovers.A long way down....down to the basement <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">

Works in progress! <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/biggrin.gif">

PS: doc have proposed to translate his headers logo. Nice, hu?

[This message has been edited by OMERA (edited 11-07-2000).]

Skaarjj
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: :morF
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 11-07-2000 09:27

heh heh...be careful of the way you spell names Omera...mr. 44 is not a Dynamic Link Libaray in Disk Sector 44.




Just when you thought that taste was dead, I came along and buried it - Skaarjj

OMERA
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 11-07-2000 10:07

OOPs! Sorry, too obsessed by my windows problems... <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/tongue.gif">

So, just wanna say I've put the translated ones in this directory:
http://omera.free.fr/ozone/

in order to grant my french pals to say what they think of it.

Please don't spread this adress,it's for debugging only,and it's not official at all! <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">
Ne bookmarquez pas et ne passez pas cette adresse à vos potes, c'est une version non officielle et j'attends l'aval de notre chère Doc pour officialiser tout ça! Dites moi juste ce que vous en pensez!

There is:
- handson main page
- javascript rollovers
- dropshadows
- gullywig tut by DL-44

Enjoy thoses ones! <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/wink.gif">

la-betterave
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Nov 2000

posted posted 11-07-2000 16:10

Enfin des infos compréhensibles Môssieu OMERA ! <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/wink.gif">
Ok tu n'es pas Dieu mais un "bon 'tiot cadet" comme on dit dans ma Picardie d'adoption (j'ai bien dit d'adoption !!!)
Et tant pis, y aura pas de trad. english pour aujourd'hui <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/biggrin.gif">
Bye
BTW Petskull, r u looking for a french girl tonight or what ? <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/wink.gif">

vogonpoet
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Mi, USA
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 11-07-2000 16:26

smashing Omera! Tres bien mon ami! je suis grand impressed.... <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">

OMERA
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 11-07-2000 17:11

<french>Heu, si mon texte vous semble un chouia trop obscur, ou une traduction bancale, n'hésitez pas à m'envoyer un chti mail pour me faire part de vos griefs! <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/wink.gif">
</french>

<english>
Err, if my text is a little bit too obfuscate for you, or a traduction looks odd, don't hesitate to send me an e-mail to share your griefs! <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/wink.gif">
(Don't wanna puzzle my pals here with an esoteric text they wouldn't comprehend! So I translate ... <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif"> )
</english>

o Thanks Vogon, your cheerness always warm my frozen heart! Definetly my best fan <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/tongue.gif"> !

Await for the next translation, coming tomorrow!

M. TRANS-OMERA-LATOR

PS: I really enjoy thoses translation, really; being usefull for our little community, and training my english skills, what else to ask for?

Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 11-07-2000 23:00

Arg! I tried to write a reply in French, but I couldn't! Why am I in AP French 5?

Zut! J'ai essaye ecrive un reply en Francais, mais je n'ai pu pas! Comment est-ce que je suis dans la classe AP French 5?

Good enough... except I dont know the word for "reply" or the past participle of "pouvoir" for sure, and i'm not sure about the grammar of that second sentence there... how'd I do?

OMERA
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 11-08-2000 00:36

* Grumble * slime, where were you when I make my french course, one month or so ago, hu? Playing truant, hu? <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">
* Clapping in his hands *
Pleeeze, be quiet, little Slimy is going to say us something in french!
"Zut! J'ai essaye ecrive un reply en Francais, mais je n'ai pu pas! Comment est-ce que je suis dans la classe AP French 5?"

That's pretty good! Here is the correct sentence:
Zut! J'ai essayé d'écrire une REPONSE en francais, mais je n'ai pas pu! Comment se fait-il (= how comes it) que je soit dans le classe AP French 5?"

That was good, little slimmy boy, deserved your level 5! <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/biggrin.gif">

OMERA ~ vanné, fatigué, lessivé par ses traductions ~

Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 11-08-2000 02:40

Hah, pardonne-moi si je n'ai pas utilisé les accents dans ma reponse!

"Soit"... I can't even remember which verb that is... it'll come to me eventually. Oh! oh yeah, it's the, um, the um, starts with an S... subjunctive of être! Oui. Je le comprend.

Hey, how would one say "unfortunately?"

Or, better yet, "I'm really sorry that I forgot to do my homework, but I'll try to make it up soon?"

OMERA
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 11-08-2000 10:15

Wow, slime is goooood!

"Hah, pardonne-moi si je n'ai pas utilisé les accents dans ma reponse!"
Perfect sentence, no mistake! * hat up *

"unfortunately" = "malheureusement"

"I'm really sorry that I forgot to do my homework, but I'll try to make it up soon!"
=
"Je suis vraiment désolé d'avoir oublié de faire mes devoirs, mais je vais essayer de faire ça rapidement!"
<img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">

Voilà!

Amitiés,
OMERA

Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 11-08-2000 21:28

Nice! I wasn't sure about the pardonne, I guess it *is* the je form rather than the tu form.

Malheureusement, mon note pour cette classe est un "C+"...

la-betterave
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Nov 2000

posted posted 11-08-2000 21:29

WOOOOOOOOH !!!!
Now some Americans try to speak english around here ! <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/eek.gif">
I didn't wonder such a big thing when I only ask a french version !!! <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/cool.gif">
so what about a japanese version guys ? <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/biggrin.gif">

Arivederci meinen Freunden

Votre dévoué La Betterave (The Beetroot yours)

OMERA
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: France
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 11-09-2000 22:32

Hey there!

<img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">

I'm looking for someone who will be able and are ready to make a translation in spanish of guru's network site.
I will make the french version, and we need someone to make another version.
Spanish looks good!

I wait for candidat!

<img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">

Regards,

OMERA

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