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butcher
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: New Jersey, USA
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 06-26-2001 22:40

I have done the w3schools thing. It's a great basics intro to XML, but I need a lot more to really understand what to do with this stuff.

Can any of you recommend a good book or web site to give me a little more indepth look (with examples) at XML?

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Jestah
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Long Island, NY
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 06-26-2001 23:27

Try XML In A NutShell and Inside XML.


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WarMage
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Rochester, New York, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 06-27-2001 09:02

Richard Baldwin... he has taught me a lot.
http://www.phrantic.com/scoop/tocxml.htm

I also have read XML and Java... or is it Java and XML... the one written by the asians. It walks through a lot of concepts such as databases, b2b secure messaging, XSL and some other great toys.

Start with Baldwin, it is free...

The hardest part with XML is that by itself it really doesn't do anything. Anyone can write a standalone xml page very easily. It is the parsing of XML that can be a pain. Creating the DTD's... that is also painful. And information on that is murky in most instances.

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That is XML, then you throw in a simple little parser and a XSLT, and you have a much more compact storage system, that is completely readable, and can be interperated by most systems with only a few lines of code.

Sorry to go off so much, it is just a really cool thing to work with.

XML is not really that hard to learn, the hard part is learning how to effectively parse the documents and to return useful information. For those reasons you would need to get information about your favorite language and XML, and how they can easily interact.

php: http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.xml.php

java: http://java.sun.com/xml/

and less important commercial information (java): http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/Books/devxml/

happy hunting,


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butcher
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: New Jersey, USA
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 06-27-2001 14:49

Thanks for the books Jestah. I've had Inside XML on my wish list for a little while, I just wasn't sure if it was good. Thanks for the confirmation.

Mage

As soon as I came across the Data Island part of the tutorial I was reading, I wanted to find a reason to use one, that seems like it will be great stuff.

Thanks for all the links, I'll dive right in today.

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