Preserved Topic: Logos

Please name some of the programs that can be used to create the following logos http://www.coolhomepages.com/newstatic//Logos/1.html

I have knowledge of PhotoShop, ImageReady, Illustrator, basic Flash.

Thanks.
CRO8

Adobe InDesign?
Corel Draw?

of course a vector based tool.

Why can't PhotoShop do something like those? Just a question.

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I would say Illustrator or maybe corel draw..

yes pshop can, but you have better control over the pen tool and shapes in illustrator when it comes to vector images/drawing

[This message has been edited by lotiss (edited 12-05-2001).]

I'd say Illustrator or Freehand.

You could make'em in PS but with vector/bezier images you get scalability without losing quality.

I'll elaborate on that a bit. Suppose you do this logo for a business in Photoshop and they love it, think it's just great. They say "ooh, we want to use this on our new billboard, it needs to be 100dpi about 5 feet across. thanks." You can enjoy the time you'll spend redrawing that in Photoshop

If you did the same thing in Illustrator or Freehand you can simply scale the graphic to the correct dimensions with no quality loss and you're good to go. It also helps keep the logo clearer at smaller resolutions for things like letterhead, business cards, etc.

Chris


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In that case, I guess PSP is out, hah!
Seriously, you'd have some problems with some of those shapes in PS that are easier in Illustrator.

[This message has been edited by Allewyn (edited 12-05-2001).]

ya true,

you gotta make sure that it works for both: Print and web. And even if it is just a business card logo, your 72 DPI web graphic won't do that great on there. So you want to make sure you either start out with a 10000x10000 pixels graphic in PS so you are OK with any Tshirt or Poster Print or you start in vector basis right away.

btw. . . you are going to be king if you just spill out a print version for a logo that your client didn't expect you to. .

haha it is great. or even better: simply send them a T-Shirt with their Logo on, that scares the heck out of them seeing what you are all doing etc..



maxtango

Well that all makes sense now I was just wondering because, well...I didn't know.


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vector based tool, Macromedia Freehand 10 is always the one I try first.... worked for me so far



[This message has been edited by AusRA (edited 12-05-2001).]

(slightly off topic)

A couple of years back I was working with print design. I then needed a product logo from one of our "favorite" big IT-companies that just had launched an new product. (well. not so new. a souped up version of a three years earlier one, still stacked with bugs).

Anyway, they could not provide me with a vectorized logo!!
We were supposed to use it for striping up a tram and some cars.

It all ended with me, getting one from our warehouse, scanning the logo off the box, redrawing it in Illustrator and using that version. I even got their marketing dept. to OK my use of a "not quite accurate" logo.

They blew some credit on that one. They are friggin global and has a Marketing dept. here with about 30 people! *sigh*

(/slightly off topic)

Conclusion: Always go for vector art for logos. And include PMS, CMYK and RGB-values when you send it to someone. I've seen horrendous mistakes in color management.

yap, vectors are the way to go i must say too.
600 dpi CYMK is a must, do not forget.

maxtango

FYI- PS 6.0 is fully capable of creating those as complete vectors (which covers the scalability issue).

maxtango:
600 dpi might be a bit of overkill, it all depends on the printer. The rule of thumb for print is that you're dpi should be twice the line count of the printer. So, if your print guy tells you that the output will be 150 lpi, then a 300 dpi resolution is sufficient.

This can help out a lot in keeping file sizes down a bit.

As far as vectors go...godly..just damned godly.

ya 600 dpi for posters and such, not so much if you print it yourself but you are having it printed.
Also for textile design, 600 dpi is essential if you want it good looking on a shirt or even if you are going to have things embroidered.

maxtango

Max: I wasn't talking about home printing either

Getting in touch with your screen printer etc. is important, but the 2Times rule is still in effect. 600 dpi is a nice failsafe benchmark, but sometimes it's not necessary...and there are moments when it isn't enough either.

Yah, you'd be shocked at some of the line counts used for printing big billboards, sometimes as low as 20 dots an inch. The thing is, the further away something is intended to be viewed from, the coarser your dots *should* be, it fools the eye into seeing an image with more depth and color. ('struth!) If you're dealing with screen printing, even with the finest of the new meshes the best you should expect them to be able to print is maybe 100 lines/inch, which would need a 200dpi image to get the film. (Anything greater than 2 times the intended line count is discarded when it get's converted to 4/process film, did you know that?) Still, if you have to do it as raster-based art, higher rez images are nice to have around! (I re-created the VISI.com logo in PSD 4 times, bigger and bigger each time, until I finally spent a week creating it at 6000x6000 pixels, a *hell* of a task.)

For logos, you just always want a good solid EPS version, it's the only way to get proper clarity at any size, and you can always turn it back into a photoshop mask for fancy stuff. I use Adobe Illustrator for this, (as do most people), but any program that creates "vector-based EPS files" is OK for this kind of work.

Your pal, -doc-

Another good tool would be your own imagination!

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with all due respect, gently remind her that crack kills brain cells.....

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She doesn't have any brai cells, but I bet she can do it.

The logos could certainly be made in MS paint by a skilled artist.

However, the whole 'scalability' issue is completely blown out the window in that case, which makes it a moot point.