Preserved Topic: MAJOR ASYLUM UPDATE!

--> http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/FaqWiki/ <--

Well, it's been about a year and a half now we've all been talking about how the Asylum needs an FAQ for all those questions that get asked over and over. So, now it's here! Presenting the "OzoneAsylum FaqWiki", scripted by our very own Tyberius Prime. I know TB was hoping I'd be a lot more help on this thing than I've been, once we got started he was pretty much left on the hot seat all by himself, and he's done a splendid job. A big vote of thanks also goes out to the Emperor, who worked with him to load this thing with over 200 pages of content so far!

How does it all work? It's a "wiki", based on the Hawaiian phrase "Wiki Wiki" which means "quick". How it works is simple, any asylum member can go in and add or modify the questions and answers presented, building an FAQ that is as deep as we want to make it. Every entry is logged, so if we get some abusers into the system we can make their lives miserable, but we really don't expect too many problems. Every entry also has a "voting" option associated with it, and entries with a high vote count will float towards the top, and entries with too many bad votes get pullled from the system, an adminstration system will allow us to pluck them out and re-write them, or retire them for good if that seems wise.

So! Go now, and play! You might want to start by adding an introduction of yourself at this link, http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/FaqWiki/shownode.php?id=49 - or perhaps you just want to see what's been modified today, hmm? http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/FaqWiki/quickchanges.php

Remember! This thing is *ours* to modify and maintain, so if you see something that is wrong or unclear, don't hesitate to pop in and fix it, (using your existing Asylum user/password). Voting is also important, even if you don't have anything to add! I expect this FAQ to turn into one of those truly awesome resources for the WWW, so do what you can to help!

The important thing for now is to have fun, learn stuff and help others. Go check it out now!

Your pal, -doc-

I hope everyone enjoys it - as well as answering questions it is a way to reclaim a bit of the Asylum history.

A big vote of thanks goes out to TP for making this happen (and be so quick on any changes!!).

I'd also like to thank Jeni, who supplied the UBB of that big list of links in the Photoshop forum, and Weadah who said it was fine to link dirctly into the links from his mini-tutorials.

If you want to test what you can do go here:
http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/FaqWiki/shownode.php?id=185

If you want to add a little bit more about yourself then add a sub topic here:
http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/FaqWiki/shownode.php?id=49

It is technically possible to turn this into a heap of meaningless rubbish but it is also possible to turn it into something very interesting and worthwhile indeed (and thanks to the good doctor for iving us enough rope) but it is up to your votes and edits so get busy.

We've only been able to sketch out the content in the broadest terms and it is up to you to flesh it out.

Still here??

Emps

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Well, I just want to say thank you to the Doc, for giving us the rope needed and for helping me out whenever I needed it.
My second big thank you goes to Emperor, for filling all that content in. I could never have done that myself.

And now, Enjoy.

Tyberius Prime

Hmmm.. something extra to play with, cool

*Runs down the hall to play, hahaha*

Edit - It's very nice I have added some things to it (more to come ) but I just suggesting that you have a link to this FAQ up there with the "OZONE Asylum, home of the Mad Scientists" so people can find it (or was this going to get done and I'm just rushing things? )



[This message has been edited by Darkshadow (edited 05-19-2002).]

Each of the main forums should now have a thread in it about any relevant sections of the FAQ - if you think something is missing then you are probably right so add it.



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I'll be modifying our base templates tonight or tomorrow to add top-level links to the FAQ, and then once I rebuild all the files here it should be reflected on every page here. I do like the idea of trying to capture some of our history in this system, so many of our past controversies and disputes, won't it be great to laugh over them down the line? ;-) I'm looking forward to integrating this system more thoroughly throughout the entire Asylum, it's got big benefits, (or as was mentioned, postential big downsides!) Remember, it'll only work if you work with it.

Your pal, -doc-

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

Its worth mentioning that although we've had a fiddle with things to imporve the look and feel there will be things that need further tweaking. Suggestions are already coming in (good work there Dracusis) so if you see anything drop it in here (OK they aren't really bugs but if you want set up something for Tweaks or use the features suggestions):
http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/FaqWiki/shownode.php?id=71

Emps

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InI: Do you mean being able to have the same node under different nodes or just being able to put the same information in different places?

Some of the issues can be addressed using the internal link code just put the ID in square brackets like a link to vp's page is [200] and this should help keep a lot of the FAQ information linked up. I've been monitoring changes and throwing in any internal links.

A FAQ on the FAQ?? This section does the job:
http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/FaqWiki/shownode.php?id=34

esp.:
http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/FaqWiki/shownode.php?id=35

So if there is anything that needs addressing then drop it in there. If you create a question then we'll try and add an answer.

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also, we do have a
Feature Request list! Just drop suggestions there.

On the 'duplicate information' issue, I'd suggest we put a stub containing nothing but the link to the right place into all the other place where it is appropriate.

Very nicely done, TP. Big hand for Emps, too.
This is definatly a big addition to the Loonie Bin. This will be huge.

Thanks.

*claps* woooow! this is soo cool! It looks like you even integrated it with the forum's memberlist database. This will be very helpful if it's integrated well.

[edit]

one problem i see is that there are some links to forum posts. It's important that when posts are archived, the URLs from the FAQ remain intact. Is there anything that can be done about that?

[edit]

i just found a broken link to a post in the 3d faq section =) i'll see if i can fix it; in the meantime, some sort of solution needs to be found for this.

[This message has been edited by Slime (edited 05-19-2002).]

wow looks like a another great idea Doc,

nice job to everyone that helped with it,

This is a very cool thing, but I do have a few complaints First off, the code that runs this is great, and there is a TON of content, but the layout looks messy to me. First off I don't like all the table cells on the right side of the screen. They don't provide any useful information and they take up too much space. We don't need to be told which cell is a text field and which is the title, its pretty self-explanatory I think.

Also there is no link to the FAQ from the main page which means the people who really should be reading the FAQ (the visitors and/or newbies etc.) probably don't know about it yet. I'd like to suggest that there be a link up next to search

Slime: It may be possible to get something like a fixed link sorted but I'm not sure how easy that would be. It might be simpler when the Asylum moves to PHP/MySQL. At the moment I suspect it will rely on good old fashioned elbow grease. Some of the broken links are my fault as I did post quite a few posts in a short space of time so people should check them (I notice a few edits of the links already so keep looking).

SB: First off sorry about the FAQs about you - I couldn't help it On your points:

1. I think the Doc said (above) that he will be changin the templates in a day or so.

2. I quite like that look - I (rather pretentiously) said it reminded me of the Pompidou Centre with all the workings on the outside. However, if enough people throw their arms up in horror it can be changed.

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Wow, that sounds great! Maybe I'll go take a quick look at it now...

Cool, I can link to myself wif a Number! This thing rocks! Nice job TP.

I think we should make these numbers our offocial Cell Numbers.

Dacusis, Cell 229.

yay. very groovy. to the point of groovy ness where little ozones flow from cracks in the rocks... um.... izz way way way past nap time. LOOK OVER THERE! .... Loser. Wiki! Wiki! WIKID! WICKED!

. . .

I was thinking we could make each reply in iambic pentameter, anyone disagree?

-Jestah

Jestah: I don't think I could handle all the stress

Drac: Great idea!

Suho1004, Cell 270

Dracusis: Now that is a good idea - I wish I'd got a better number like TP or vp. Anyone know if we can use UBB in the info on the left?

Emps

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YOU GUYS FUCKING ROCK,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:d

-=Luxo Jr.=-

Doin' wierdassed animations since 1986

Well I feel like an idiot. I saw where there was a "Vote For this" and "Vote Against This". I saw that there was 1 Vote Against This and wanted to see what was up so I wanted to see what this was and of course clicked on it. Well, this just added to the talley. Sorry! Didn't mean to do that

Later,
C:\


~Binary is best~

This whole Asylum FaqWiki Project is the greatest thing I've seen for a long time! I love visiting the Today's changes page every half an hour and see what the other people added... it's such a cool toy and I'm sure that it will become a huge database of information on everything web desing and Asylum related. Good work TP, Emps, Doc and everyone who contributes to it!

kuckus (cell #282)

I've been adding some minor stylistic changes these last few minutes, changing the <hr>'s, centering things properly, making all the widths the same at 95%, adding crude boxes around the "todays topics" and stuff like that. I'll try and spend some more time doing true, anal-retentive tweakings like this, but this was just a quick run through. Oh! The <textarea> widths are now set to 100%, I like that. Bitch at me if it looks like I broke anything!

Your pal, -doc-

Just a quick note to say that I've now added sections specific to each of the forums (I thought I'd post that here rather than update all the posts in all the forums - although feel free to add the correct link if you want). The main section is here:
http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/FaqWiki/shownode.php?id=289

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That extra column on the right of the table, the one that does nothing and serves no purpose? Can anyone think of what it's there for, or should we eliminate it? It's starting to bug me. :/

Your pal, -doc-

just eliminate it, I never cared for it myself, but for some reason, didn't take it out... or I'll do it if it's still in when I get around to fix things up abit... (handle bugs & feature requests...)

so long,

Tyberius Prime

This might be a silly question, but how do you access the FAQ without going through this thread? I noticed it wasn't added to the top of the page. Any thoughts?

-Jestah
Cell 277

Jestah: From the Doc above:

quote:

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I'll be modifying our base templates tonight or tomorrow to add top-level links to the FAQ, and then once I rebuild all the files here it should be reflected on every page here.

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What I'm looking forward to is the ability to add shortcut links to the FAQ like [53]

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At first glance, I notice that pspong.com is not in the sister sites, which led me to think of mebee a "Asylumite Pages" link that just has links to all pages listed as homepages by the asylumnites..

ok, cough if that actually made sense..

That's the first thing I noticed 'cause I haven't really had a change to look at it yet. Gimme 'till tonight to thurouly (Operation Timed Out: It stays misspelled) search and explore it and vomit my thoughts up on this here thread..

bbl (in what I'm sure has to be it's first use in Asylum history)

by the way, I accidently voted against the cover page... um.. sorry.. hehehe


Harmonizing new illusions...
ICQ: 67751342

[This message has been edited by Petskull (edited 05-20-2002).]

Hehe, I don't mind about SB's SB. That was my own durn fault.

Its already getting pretty messy over there though. Look at this thread for instance: http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/FaqWiki/shownode.php?id=87 I think Its getting a lil too social. Also at the bottom look at all the edited bys. I love that so many people can contribute but I dunno, It just looks messy to me. I wish there was a better way to list the people that worked on a topic that doesn't take up as much space.

I just found something out. I made a test topic in the mad scientist forum, and noted it's url:
http://www.ozoneasylum.com/Forum15/HTML/000063.html

Then I archived the topic, and it's new url is:
http://www.ozoneasylum.com/Archives/Archive-000005/HTML/20020520-15-000063.html

So, I'm thinking, maybe there's a way to create a mechanism within the FAQ for linking to posts. The FAQ can replace the link, not with an actual link to the post, but a link to a php thingy to deal with it. Something like, if I type

[asylum15.63]

it will link to forum 15, thread #63. Except that it won't actually link there, it will link to a php thingy, which will check to see if there *exists* a thread 63 in forum 15. If there does, it will forward you there. But, if there does not, it could search the archives for any html file ending in "-15-000063.html". If it finds one, it will both (a) forward the user there, while (b) deleting the old link to itself and replacing it with a hard link to the archived topic.

OK, so it's a little screwy, and may be hard to implement. But it might make things easier; if we don't do something about it, I forsee many broken links which no one will have the ambition to fix.

It might be easier to implement it like this: every time a thread is archived, it can store information about the archival in some text file, saying something like "thread 63 in forum 15 has been archived to this url: ...", then the php script i mentioned could use that text file rather than searching the archives for the topic.

OK. Just some ideas.

PS: I will add PSPong in there once the PSPong site is up and running (or someone can add it now and we'll update it). If people want to add their web pgaes then the best place might be here where you can add a bio and anything else that you might want (within reason - if it isn't I'm sure it'll get voted out pdq):
http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/FaqWiki/shownode.php?id=49

The Doc and Dark have already done so and Dracusis has added a section on his sigs.

SB: There will be some FAQs which need some knocking into shape (I was rushing and tired when I did a lot of those so errors will have crept in). I think we are fairly agreed on that FAQ and the comments are only left in for the moment just to make sure we are all agreed. At some point someone can nip in there and tidy that up to make it easier on people.

Slime: All ideas that make this easier to keep things joined up are gratefully recieved.

[edit: Oh and if do accidentally vote against a post then vote for it and it cancels the vote against out - in the big picture anyway]
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Argh....... now I see the link at the top of the page , thanks Doc!! makes it easier now to reach the big FAQ.

we should redesign the whole faq structure going closer to the one like the forums in here.

A little nit pick on the cpoyright on the bottom of every page...'-All content copyright by the person who wrote it, but faq.ozoneasylum.com can and will not verify ownership.-' Can and will not? That doesn't seem to make any snese...iut say that 'Oh yes...we can verify that we/they own all of this content...but we're not going to do it for you.' Which just makes it a negative of a positive which cancels both out and it makes no sense....

[edit]damn speeling[/edit]

Koan 63:
Those who Believe
Can
Those who Try
Do
Those who Love
Live

[This message has been edited by Skaarjj (edited 05-21-2002).]

it means they *can* not, and *will* not.

They're both incapable, and unwilling.


[This message has been edited by Dan (edited 05-21-2002).]

Grumble Said : "we should redesign the whole faq structure going closer to the one like the forums in here"

I like the way the FAQ is set up. Th forums are for discussions, the FQA's are for answers. I know that there are some discussions happening in the FAQ at the moment but most of them are based on feature's and such which require discussions.

Once most of this is worked out I don't think it will be a problem.

As for the "Linking to an asylum page that's been archived" problem. I've noticed that this happens here a lot as well. Maybe we could alter the Asylum board to write in a HTML re-direct when it archives anything to try and keep the links working all-round.

Although I can see another problem here as well. What if someone links a page in the FAQ then it gets removed from the Asylum after a certain period of time, ie - not archived?. I think the biggest problems at the moment are maintaining integrity between the two structures. Maybe we need to force the migration of the Asylum to a PHP solution sooner? Maybe there are other ways to work around this for the time being.

Speaking of the Asylum PHP borad. What's happening with that? Was it something the Doc was planning on doing all by himself? Did he want a hand with it? Is this whole idea dead?

If it is still happening I'd be more than willing to help out. I wanted to hepl out with the FAQ since it was first suggested (We were thinking a static HTML solution back then!) but I had no idea TP was doing this. Now I feel kinda lame for not knowing about it untill now.

Anyways... Just dumpin the contents of mah noodle.


[This message has been edited by Dracusis (edited 05-21-2002).]

Dracusis: All good points - one way to keep things joined up is to drop a note into a thread that is still active saying that it is being linked to from the FAQ and give the link to the FAQ. The person archiving things could then remember to update the link when they archive the thread. Hmmmm that sounds a little...

Some forums archive sooner than others and it might be a good idea if threads that are no longer active get archived if they are linked to from the FAQ (something all Psychotics and MSs can keep an eye on in their respective areas of interest!!). TP and I have also been promoted to MSs (thanks Doc) so we should be able to keep an eye on things and archive any old active threads if need be (as with renaming and moving FAQs I'll start a thread to alert people to the presence of active threads - that way everyone can do there bit to keep an eye on things - deal??).

[edit: OK its here:
http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/FaqWiki/shownode.php?id=359
it should go some way to helping.]

By the way TP there are some people waiting in this thread who'd like to talk to you:
www.ozoneasylum.com/Forum15/HTML/000057.html

~pushes TP through the door and runs off to hide~

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I keep getting lost in that thing.
Not just browsing, but thinking about things that I might add.

wj: I know that feeling - the whole thing is just a broad outline at the moment and I keep realising that I have missed out large important sections. It'll be a while before it things start filling up!!

Nice slimie!!

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~peeks in member list~

3rd Higest Lunatic in the post counts! woot!

Wow, we have a lot of Mad Scientist and Psychotic's don't we.

no offense to anyone who posted there, but to me it seems as if we have waaaaaaaaayyyyy to much senseless nodes without any content there.
like for example work -284
(emps, you are doing a good job there, the above is just an example )

keep in mind that we are now only 4 days running or so and im already loosing the overview.

maybe it wasnt a good idea to allow posting for everyone.
there should be a couple of pals who should structure the thing...

just my 2?-cents.

Heh, WebShaman, cell#397. Kinda like that...

Well, just got done with climbing through the entire FAQ....a couple of things...

For the voting thing...seems that if one votes too often, the flooding control pops up...and I don't mean for just one topic...kinda wierd.

After going back and forth (quite alot, I might add...the navigation is a bit...well, like us ) I got an interesting fatal error....what's up with that?

And after returning to the Asylum boards...all the folders are now red... Why is that? Even when I look at the threads, the folders still stay red...but it wasn't like that before I 'visited' the FAQ...

Oh yeah, just wanted to be the first to say it....

RTFFAQ!!!!!

Other than the above listed things, I must say good work to those who spend all the time and effort to making it happen...I think that when it is finished, it will be awesome...



[This message has been edited by WebShaman (edited 05-21-2002).]

Yah, we discussed limiting the ability to post on this, your standard "Wiki" is open to *everybody*, no restrictions at all! Here we decided to limit it to registered inmates, which made sense to me. Use the vvoting tool! If you see silly, worthless posts, vote them down, they'll dissappear! (Note to TB: Maybe we could cut this threshold back to perhaps 3 votes instead of 5? Or perhaps it would make more sense to make it 3 more negative votes than positive instead? This would balance out the "whoops" votes that have already happened here.) Posts that get voted out don't really get deleted, they just end up in the admin tool, where decisions have to be made.

Your pal, -doc-

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

GRUMBLE: I could point to an awful lot more nodes like that - I've been sketching out the sections but it just isn'y humanly possible for me to fill all the sections. This FAQ will only be as good as people here make it - which means that people interested in a subject will need to add things as it occurs to and keep an eye on links and such like. I have great hopes for that section and will be adding some of the great stuff that Nimraw posted on copyright and I'd love to see some of the Doc's tips on pricing and more information on contracts, etc. There is also things I can't or am wary of doing - I would like to see the winning sigs from the sig contests posted as well as the originals from the RP but I don't want to link directly to pictures on other people's servers (and I don't have the time to go through and do that). If I've left empty nodes then that is just to encourage people to fill them with content and I've not added a node that is superfluous - there is bucketloads of pure gold in the Archives and old posts it just needs people to dig it all out. There have been a number of people in there testing, adding links and editing (mainly my) typos and Skaarj has even thrown in a mini-tutorial but there is a lot of work that needs doing - the launch was only the first part of the process.

[edit: GRUMBLE: Thanks for the opportunity to restate that - I've now updated the front page to refelct this - its an important point and I suspect I'll be banging on about it for some time!!]

InI: I'll make Asylumite's profiles sticky so they can't be voted off but you might want to give me a clue as to who's profile has gone - I've been keeping an eye on eyezaer (sorry no pun), Dark and PetSkull just to make sure they don't go.

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The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

And everyone is now protected - we are an odd lot and I suspect some people have voted against themselves for some perverse reason - I've added a section where things can be made sticky (other than Slime's cell):
http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/FaqWiki/shownode.php?id=402

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Looks great

* runs down the new hall - Hurray, another place to get lost *

-= Veneficuz =-
"Mundus vult decipi. Ergo decipiatur."

TP has made some more changes to layout - the right-hand columns may make more sense now that they have controls in them. If you think of any other features drop them into here:
http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/FaqWiki/shownode.php?id=70

Veneficuz: Glad you like it..

Dracusis: Nice piece on fonts!!

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What happens if a banch of nasty minded people vote out someone's member entry?

Just for the record, I think voting nay in this area is a tad childish.

Dracusis: The ability to vote things out is really just a house keeping feature but I'm sure some people will use it for less 'noble' reasons. Nothing gets deleted via this process it gets hidden and then the admins can delete stuff or put it back. We can make things sticky so that they don't even get hidden and I've made the current entries sticky so that we can avoid any problems caused by excessive silliness. I don't think we want to have to do that a lot (I want to leave as much power in your hands as possible) but that seemed wise - it can be reversed once people have had a good play (or if there is a demand now).

InI: Nice FAQ!!

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emps: that with the work was just an example.

doc: my vision is just that after a couple of months we have so many nodes and such a deep, unsorted, unlogical structure that we cannot speak of a "FAQ" anymore. some information will be there double and more.

GRUMBLE: It is a concern - hopefully the empty nodes will start to fill up (I'll be adding things as I hope will others) and if a node gets too full or someone puts something in the wrong place we can move it. If information is duplicated needlessly then we can edit it out of one node and then vote that node out (hopefully people will look through and see what is already there). It will take quite a bit of work from everyone, especially in these early stages, but with all the talented and enthusiastic folks here it is doable (some people are already doing great work nosing around, fixing, testing, editing and contributing so I think it'll be OK - although we shouldn't be complacent).

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Yeah, everyone has a whole bunch of acquired knowledge just floating around in the back of their minds that's invaluable to everyone at some point.

I've been ranting about fonts recently:
- http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/FaqWiki/shownode.php?id=407
- http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/FaqWiki/shownode.php?id=366

Just blabber away ane tie it in with some other FAQ's, then edit the FAQ's you've tied it in with to reference it back again. That way someone only needs to get to a topic close to what they want and they can go from there. If we get a lot of the members here doing this we should be able to flesh it out with mind boggling amounts of cross referenced information in no time at all. It's more like a knowledge database than an FAQ though. I usually think of FAQ's as rather small.

Edit: Typo

[This message has been edited by Dracusis (edited 05-21-2002).]

The Wiki *desperately* needs title editing capabilities. I'm seeing typos everywhere.

It would also be nice to have the ability to move around nodes that you think someone put in a bad place, but perhaps that should be a moderator-only feature.

Uh oh; it also needs the ability to disable slimies. See http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/FaqWiki/shownode.php?id=189

It's incorrectly recognizing a right parenthesi after a quote and before a period as a winking slime.

I'm going to go post these on the feature request node.

Impossible in this case. A FAQ is supposed to answer all of those frequently asked questions, and alot of people ask us the same set of questions (unfortunatley they're very divirsified) over and over and over again.

Koan 63:
Those who Believe
Can
Those who Try
Do
Those who Love
Live

this is great because i would like to know why i had my name taken off the user list.


WHy is that u "DOC"


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

-> WTF?

Hmm, WFFY, weren't you on the list? Sometimes the auto.updating of that list gets broken, but I just ran the script that rebuilds the member name listing, I'd expect to find you listed there now.

Your pal, -doc-

Just to address something that Drac and Emps were discussing a few days ago...

Is it possible to disable the voting for certain nodes (like, for example, member nodes)? I have to agree with Drac that it's a bit silly to allow people to vote for member nodes. I currently have four votes for me and two against, and I'm still trying to figure out what the heck that's supposed to mean. Even more disturbingly (sorry to bring this up, Drac, I know you probably avoided mentioning it on purpose), but Drac has five votes against him with seven votes for. May I be the first to say: WTF is up with that? Is the Asylum now a popularity contest?

That's just my two cents. I can understand the voting when used to weed out topics that people find to be less than useful, but when it comes to member nodes I don't see the point. I also appreciate that you have made these pages sticky, but it might just be easier to disallow voting on these pages, if that's possible. If it's not possible, then I guess this is just a pointless rant. I hope I'm not whining too much here.




Cell 270

tiki like wiki

-tiki, cell 478



[This message has been edited by tikigod (edited 05-26-2002).]

all i know is i tried to mess around with this newfangled thing and ended up voting AGAINST people because i thought if i clicked the link "7 votes against" i'd get to see who had voted...

i'm baffled.

anyway, i'll add a recipe for really good vegan pancakes sometime in the near future -- don't you worry.

cheers.mikey.milker

mikey- same happened to me..

I think the voting is for how good the actual page is, not for how well liked the person is...


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mikey: I hear ya. I almost did the same thing. The way it's set up is kind of confusing. You wouldn't think that clicking on the link would register your vote. I think it should be a bit more obvious, like "vote for this page," or "vote against this page." In general, of course, since I'm against voting on members nodes .

petskull: Yeah, I can understand that, and that's the way I thought of it. But here's the catch: most people, I think, are just putting something up "in the meantime" and will be updating things as they go along. I don't think it's quite fair if someone puts up a tiny little blurb to tide themselves over and they get ten votes against them. I also think it's too easy to confuse "my page" with "me." And isn't the point of voting to determine what stays and what goes? If all the members' nodes are going to stay anyway, why have voting (this is why "sticky" was introduced, but it seems like more of a stop-gap measure than a cure)? Just my thoughts on the matter.

[Edit: By the way, I want to make it clear that I absolutely love the FAQ. I think it's the best thing since kimchi. It's just that I happen to have a little issue with voting on members' nodes .]



[This message has been edited by Suho1004 (edited 05-26-2002).]

OK I believe those changes have been made (although I'm not sure how we get rid of posts we can't vote down). Thanks TP for being so prompt as usual. There is an area for people to request features:
http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/FaqWiki/shownode.php?sortby=rating&id=70

or report bugs:
http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/FaqWiki/shownode.php?sortby=rating&id=71

if people note something they want changing or adding.

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FAQs: Emperor

Heh, thanks Emps. I guess I should have posted there. I'll try to remember that next time.

Suho1004: It doesn't really matter at the moment (clearly) but once the excitement fades and this thread gets archived it'll be the way we go about things (although there should be less need for bug reports and additional features once things have been up and running for a bit).

And as it has been a week since launching I should say well done to everyone for getting invovled - its only been a week but we have doubled the number of nodes and are approaching 500 nodes. Lets see more of the same!!

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FAQs: Emperor

Soon we'll have more nodes than I have posts!

No, wait. That's a good thing.

*yanks on suhos chain* Wow, that chain goes all the way back to your room...*activates automatic retrieval system* Whoops! Shoulda left that lever alone...man, I've never seen suho move so fast...ooooh, that must've hurt, banging off of them there walls and corners...

the FaqWiki owns me

OMG!!!
Been away for a while and then they come up with this.
My upmost compliments... Good Job .

Really!

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