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Petskull
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: 127 Halcyon Road, Marenia, Atlantis
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 06-03-2002 16:58

(Mostly for Doc, but if you know the answers chime in!)

How does the forum software here work, exactly?

Do the posts get kept as part some text file in UBB script (If not, then how does the computer generate it when you edit a post)?

How does the main forum page know the stats of how many threads are there and in what order?

How do the threads get designated as locked or open?

What is the difference between archived and active posts, and why does archiving post free up space on the server?

How does the member list database work and how does it add the proper information to the posts?

Is it all controled by one master script or are there several?

I don't suppose I can get a copy of the perl script so I can pour over it and analyse this stuff?


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Dracusis
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Brisbane, Australia
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 06-03-2002 17:25

http://www.ubbdev.com/

Petskull
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: 127 Halcyon Road, Marenia, Atlantis
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 06-04-2002 16:08

yeah...... no, that didn't help...


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Dracusis
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Brisbane, Australia
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 06-04-2002 16:54

How does the forum software here work, exactly? - > www.perl.com

Oh, and this is an Infopop UBB http://infopop.com/products/ubbclassic/. The Doc didn't code it himself but I think he's made a tonne of modifications to it...

Sorry I couldn't be more help but you really should drop this in the Server Sider Scripting forum.

[This message has been edited by Dracusis (edited 06-04-2002).]

GRUMBLE
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Omicron Persei 8
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 06-04-2002 21:04

iself would be kinda interested in what form the data is stored in here.
i know the threads are plain html flatfiles but the userprofile? that too?
so the script writes/edits 2 files on the server whenever someone posts something?

Pugzly
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: 127.0.0.1
Insane since: Apr 2000

posted posted 06-05-2002 04:33

All flat files. No databases. That's one of its shortfalls.

Dracusis
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Brisbane, Australia
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 06-05-2002 05:48

Oh yah, I remember Doc posting a snippet from one of the flat files once. It was just a text file with data separated by

Tyberius Prime
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Germany
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 06-05-2002 15:22

I don't think it removes the datafile when something is archieved... you'd still have to be able to rebuild the html to change the layout.

The userdata is twofold - one file (memberlist)containing username

Blacknight
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: INFRONT OF MY PC
Insane since: Dec 2001

posted posted 06-05-2002 17:26

i am no expert but am i understanding this right THIS FORUM DOES NOT USE A DATABASE ? ??? I'm sure im wrong so tell me

mr.maX
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Belgrade, Serbia
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 06-05-2002 17:46

Yes, you understood it correctly, UBB (the software used to power the Asylum) doesn't use any sort of databse, it uses plain text files to store data, and that's its biggest drawback (I'm talking about the software)...


Petskull
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: 127 Halcyon Road, Marenia, Atlantis
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 06-05-2002 20:26

yeah, I figgered it was not database driven.... that's what I liked about it... I could go in and modify the file whenever I felt like it...


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u-neek
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Berlin, Germany
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posted posted 06-05-2002 21:25

You could do that with mysql as well.

GRUMBLE
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Omicron Persei 8
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 06-06-2002 01:08

so that means, that also the password is probably stored in plain text somewhere in a flatfile?

Petskull
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: 127 Halcyon Road, Marenia, Atlantis
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posted posted 06-06-2002 06:43

well, probably encrypted or well hidden...


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Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 06-06-2002 07:00

Though it's extremely easy to encrypt things with Perl, it's also not guaranteed that our passwords are encrypted. Even if they were, this isn't a secure server...

mr.maX
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Belgrade, Serbia
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted posted 06-06-2002 08:05

As far as passwords are cnocerned, this is a quote from registration page:

--- start copy/paste ---
In addition, your passwords are not encrypted and can be seen by the BB administrators. Do not use a password that you would be afraid to reveal to anyone.
--- end copy/paste ---


Tyberius Prime
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Germany
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 06-06-2002 08:11

btw., even a file system is, by definition, a database, although a very simple/specialized one...

Petskull
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: 127 Halcyon Road, Marenia, Atlantis
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 06-07-2002 00:06

it's just a message board, I don't really care about the password being revealed... if someone impersonates me.... Big Deal...

on the adminweb, I'll encrypt it, or cleverly hide it....

TyPrime, you know what I mean....


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