Preserved Topic: Welcome in non-latin scripts (Page 1 of 1)

Hi.
I collect the "welcome" word as written in the original form, in the main languages of the world. My page is here: http://www.viol.net/mohaa/welcome.htm
I'd like to add the korean welcome, and according to my researches in Internet sites, it may be like this: http://www.viol.net/korean_welcome.gif
Please, can some native korean speaking guy tell me if it is right?

Thanks.

P.S. Is there anyone that speaks burmese here? Or hindi, or any language that is written using non-latin script and that I don't have the "welcome" word yet?

ADDED: Is this the way to write "welcome" in hindi? http://www.viol.net/welcome_in_hindi.jpg


[This message has been edited by viol (edited 06-19-2002).]

Hey, sorry I can't help, just wanted to say that that's a cool idea. I sent you a submission already.

elcomeway <-- pig latin



.:[ Be Bert. Be Ernie. Just be. ]:.

This is the word "welcome" in my native language. It's written in Serbian (Cyrillic) and the colors represent the flag of Serbia.



You can find the PSD file here: http://www.max.co.yu/ozone/dobrodosli.zip

btw: german is not only spoken in germany.

interesting also that you choose the british flag for the english welcome!

Lunatic: thanks! I'll add it to my collection tonight.

mr.Max: thanks! Ditto. I have already two other "welcomes" written in Cyrillic, Russian and Ukrainian. Yours will be the third.

Grumble: yes, and I know it's not right, because England is not UK and Scotland, Wales, etc... have their own language. But the fact is that the UK Flag is so beautiful...

And what about my Korean welcome? Is it right?
I welcome any "welcome" anyone wants to send me.

is it right in Korean...dunno. Ask Suho for anything to do with the Korean Language.

Koan 63, written on the wall of cell number 250:
Those who Believe
Can
Those who Try
Do
Those who Love
Live

Suho, is it right in Korean?

ADDED: I guess Suho is not going to reply to this message due to a past post of mine where I told I'd like Italy to beat Korea in WC, since I have italian citizenship...

[This message has been edited by viol (edited 06-20-2002).]

[This message has been edited by Arthemis (edited 06-23-2002).]

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ADDED: I guess Suho is not going to reply to this message due to a past post of mine where I told I'd like Italy to beat Korea in WC, since I have italian citizenship...

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No, no, that's not it at all. After all, Korea did beat Italy, right? Why would I have hard feelings? It's just that I've been a little busy (oh, and there's the time difference, too).

Anyway, that is correct for "welcome." Of course, that is the noun form, not the verb form. It should probably do for your page (which is very nice, by the way), but if you want the verb form I can do that for you easily. It's a tad difficult to explain, but most words of Chinese character origin in Korean are nouns, and in order to make them a verb you need to add the verb form "-hada." So it's not like English, where "welcome" can be both a noun and a verb. For example, if I were welcoming someone in Korean, I would not say "hwanyeong," I would say, "hwanyeong hamnida." (Incidentally, the same thing is true of Japanese).

So, anyway, I'll put up the full form (in a few different fonts), post the link here, and then you decided whether or not you need it. It won't bother me in the least if you decide to go with what you have, I just thought I'd give you another option. Let me go fire up PS and I'll be back...

[Edit: OK, here it is. The top one is the font that was in your original (it's just a basic Korean font...) and the bottom one is in another common font that I happen to think looks nicer (it simulates brush strokes). Take your pick. Sorry for the delay in replying!]

[This message has been edited by Suho1004 (edited 06-21-2002).]

Thanks a lot Suho.
It's already added to my collection.
I used the thiner version because I have the font and I can type it. The other font, bolder, is indeed better but using the gif file I get jagged surfaces, hard to get rid without compromising the readability of the word.
I hope we'll meet in the WC final
Greetings.



[This message has been edited by viol (edited 06-21-2002).]

You can type Korean? That's pretty impressive. If you want the other font, though, that would be easy to arrange. It's pretty standard. Anyway, the one you have up now looks nice too.

See you in the finals (I hope!)

Hi Suho. I can type Korean, Burmese, Chinese, Japanese, Bengali, Greek, Arabic, Hebrew, Russian, Hindi and Balinese, so far. Almost all those words from my "Welcome Collection" were actually typed in my computer. The exception is the chinese word that was not typed by me. I use a font manager that allows me to install easily my fonts (and uninstall them) and some of these fonts were gathered freely from Internet sites. Also, since I use WinXP, the support for some languages is already built-in.
BUT, when I say "I can type" it doesn't mean I know those languages. Actually, I know absolutely nothing about any of them (unfortunately). I use some tricks to type those words in Photoshop. First, I install the font. Then, I go to MS Word, not Photoshop, and using the Insert/Symbol dialog, I look for the letter I want and them I insert it. After the word is fully typed, I copy/paste it to Photoshop. Some letters are really tough to type because they require more than one key stroke, a combination of key strokes, always hard to figure out. In some cases, after I have type part of the word, I paste it into a Google page, add the english welcome word, and I make a search. Then, a lot of sites with that foreign partial word (and the english welcome word) pop up and, in some cases, I can find the full word typed in another site. Then, again, it's a matter of copy and paste. But it's a time-consuming method to get to type some of those words in my system. Sometimes, I lose hours just to be able to type one word.
I have a Japanese Welcome word stored in a gif file and I want to type it in my system, but I just can't find those two "letters" in my Arial Unicode font. There are thousands of symbols there and it's just impossible to find the two I want...

Interesting. That's a pretty rough way to do things, but I guess it's easier than trying to learn all those languages!

Speaking of your Japanese version, I don't think that's the right word. My Japanese is a bit rusty, but I do know that Chinese, Japanese, and Korean all use the same word for welcome, and that's the one you have under Chinese (pronounced huan-ying in Chinese, hwan-yeong in Korean, and kandai in Japanese). The Korean version is just the Korean pronunciation of that word with the verb ending, and the Japanese version should be the same (except the Japanese would use the Chinese characters when possible rather than hiragana; hiragana is only used for those grammatical elements that cannot be expressed in Chinese characters).

Anyway, if you want to post the gif I could probably type it in for you and then send you the PSD (I have Arial Unicode).

Hi Suho.
That's not a pretty rough way to do it; you're just being nice to me. That's a stupid way to do it These Asian languages are too complicated for an Occidental guy to learn quickly how to even type a word, so, that's the reason I opted for the "stupid" way, because it's the only way I can roughly do it.
That Japanese welcome word is, in english transliteration, "Youkoso" and it was sent to me by an american guy, that I think is some sort of an expert in Japanese. But I have made a research in Internet and I found out that there are at least there ways to say welcome in Japanese: youkoso, irasshai and irasshaimase. It seems that the most appropriate way would be irasshaimase and not youkoso. Youkoso seems to mean "nice to see you!" and not "welcome". I have already found the way to write, in hiragana, irasshaimase and I'm about to change that word (Youkoso), in my collection, for Irasshaimase. But I also have a probably japanese Welcome word written using those beautiful and complicated japanese letters (the ones I can't find in my Arial Unicode font). I believe they are called "Kanji", according to my researches. I'll post it here when I get home so you can take a look. And now you're saying that there is a fourth way to say welcome in Japanese: "kandai". I'm lost.
If you want to send me the right Japanese welcome word, I'd be glad to have it. If possible, since I also have the Arial Unicode, send it as a type layer, so I can change its size without compromising the quality.

P.S. - I've read some articles about the Kanji Japanese script and they say that Kanji was borrowed from the Chinese ideograms hundreds of years ago but many variations were introduced by the Japanese so they are not exactly the same script now.

I'll post here the Japanese welcome probably Kanji word that I have when I get home (at least I think it is a welcome word, based on the context)

ADDED: http://tigercow.fateback.com/guide/culture/page02.html - Take a look at the table, at the end of this page. Three ways to say welcome.

ADDED 2: here's the link: http://www.viol.net/japanese_welcome.gif

[This message has been edited by viol (edited 06-24-2002).]

Well, I'll be the first to admit that my Japanese is pretty rusty. I'll have to take a look at those links and get back to you a little later on.

[Edit: OK, the Kanji word you have there is "kandai." It's the same one used in Chinese and Korean (yes, it's true that some Japanese characters are different from the original Chinese, but many of them are the same). I think the Kanji word is more likely to appear in a phrase like "Welcome to Japan," but (as is pointed out in the first link) "irasshaimase" would probably be more suitable for a "welcome to my homepage"-type thing. Looking at the other languages on your page, it would appear that "kandai" is the one you're looking for. The only problem is that, as in Korean, it needs to be conjugated. I'll have to get back to you on that (need to confirm with a Japanese friend of mine...).]

[This message has been edited by Suho1004 (edited 06-25-2002).]