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Luxo_Jr
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Stuck inside a Pixar short film
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 07-31-2002 14:54

I got two emails from the same email address blisterinthesun2@yahoo.com, one titled Who the fkkk is this? and another one that says Your gay. They just say how they have seen me around at school and reckon im a litte fag and that they will get me. They will get me in the Yr 12 room!!!!!
That was posted around 5ish yesterday arvo....since then I have been in that room and shit-all has happend.
Is there a way to trace that email back to the sender? Reckon I should reply and say to them Come and get me! because I feel in the mood to do so...wankers

InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 07-31-2002 15:04

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

lallous
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Lebanon
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 07-31-2002 15:14

you must simply view the "Message Source" (as in OutLook) or view "Full Headers" in any other email client.

Petskull
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: 127 Halcyon Road, Marenia, Atlantis
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 07-31-2002 15:41

what's your email program?


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reitveld
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Kansas City, MO USA
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 07-31-2002 15:45

is that your sig?

Luxo_Jr
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Stuck inside a Pixar short film
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 07-31-2002 16:19

It is Hotmail.com and yes it is my sig....but not permanently.
I just saved one of them as .eml and opened it. I found this:
META content="MSHTML 5.50.4207.2601"
that resembles an IPish address of some sort. And then I found this after sorting through all the html coding and shit:
H: F234.law11.internal.hotmail.com --><!-- V: WIN2K 09.05.00.0079 i
WIN2K there rings a bell cos if it was someone from school it makes sense cos we only have WIN2K and the library runs WIN98. But I am sure it is someone in the Yr.12 Centre where those computers have WIN2K. I will track down these wankers!!
Are those numbers IP addresses? I'm not all that familiar with IP addresses that much.



[This message has been edited by Luxo_Jr (edited 07-31-2002).]

evilclown01
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Dec 2001

posted posted 07-31-2002 16:47

This is a bit long, but this explains that, and more. http://www.happyhacker.org/gtmhh/vol3no4.shtml

evilclown01

bitdamaged
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: 100101010011 <-- right about here
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 07-31-2002 18:01

nope those aren't IP's they're too long.

The Win 2K bit is actually probably a refrence to the Hotmail server. The hotmail bit makes the IP address pretty much irrelevant since you will only get the IP of the hotmail server, to get the IP of the sender themself you'd have to go through hotmail's security bit.

Personally for something this minor, if they are using a web-based mail service you're kinda screwed and will have a hard time finding the user unless you bring in the authorities.




.:[ Never resist a perfect moment ]:.

[This message has been edited by bitdamaged (edited 07-31-2002).]

mahjqa
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: The Demented Side of the Fence
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 07-31-2002 19:47

Homophobes are gay.

moaiz
Maniac (V) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Nov 2000

posted posted 07-31-2002 20:00

That number you posted is the complete version # of the IE you're using.

Just fwd the mail off to abuse@yahoo.com, its a violation of their TOS. All web-based e-mail services should have a terms of service to deal with. Keep the mails as evidence, if they continue you can use them to persue charges and nail the person under the 'hate crime' legislation.

If you do choose to go the 'come and get me' route, (my personal favorite) do it from another e-mail address off a freeserver, (from an IP that cannot come back to you...create the acct at school on the network), now if he comes at you you will need to get a stun gun and zap em immediately when you see them, preferably on the nearest body part you can get a hit on then again on the neck when they drop. After that, you will find there are few things more enjoyable than kicking someone who is twitching from a zapping until your foot hurts. Stick with the body/groin area, prosecutors will be much less sympathetic to your plight as a persecuted individual defending yourself if you start crushing facial bones, or ripping ears off.


After you get tired or stopped you now have the e-mails to justify your actions, you can say that you felt the "...emminent threat of serious bodily injury or death" becaue of the e-mail and you have your ass covered because you sent the response from another account. If you go this route remember, there is no such thing as a fair fight unless there is a referee in the middle, a cutman in your corner and a ring around you. If this person has issues with you for whatever reasons and wants to create a situation where its them or you...send flowers.

Other than that, think happy thoughts




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InSiDeR
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Oblivion
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 07-31-2002 20:02

A tad bit hypocritcal mahjqa lol. Whats Yr 12 room?

viol
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Charles River
Insane since: May 2002

posted posted 07-31-2002 22:12

I bet Yahoo is not going to help.
Yahoo sucks.
I signed Yahoo for two months, then I changed to another web hosting company but they kept billing me, even I having deleted my account completely. Now I'm having to prove to my credit card company that Yahoo is wrong and that I owe them nothing else.
I hate Yahoo. I'll be happy the day Yahoo goes to bankrupcy.

Skaarjj
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: :morF
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 08-01-2002 00:57

Year 12 (being the final year of High School for us Aussies) brings special privelidges, like a special large area all the year 12s can go to when they choose to. It has a kitchen, toilets, tv, blah, blah, blah, furniture is ussally provided by the school.

Hmmm...when you do find out who they are Lux, contact me, and I'll tell you some interesting ideas I have as to what we can do with that info.

Anyone care to join in on an email bombing campaign?

Skaarjj
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: :morF
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 08-01-2002 02:15

Insider: No...I lthink mahjqa has a point there. Human nature states that if someone is feeling something and is ashamed of it, the first thing they do is make fun of it...hence, homophobes make fun of homosexuality simply to try and convince themselves that they aren't really gay.

ramsaydesigns
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: The Mountains
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted posted 08-01-2002 04:43

Just block them. Simple as that. There's no reason to get upset or angry. Are you in high school? Seems like it. That kiddie stuff only happens in the K-12 system. Nearly 100% of what people tell you in high school is a lie. Nearly 100% of the people you think are your friends are not your friends. When I left high school at 16, I realized I had only ONE true friend. And guess what? He and I are starting (corporation not partnership) a design and development firm in 2004.

RANT: A business partnership can strengthen or break a friendship. If you are fair and your business does well, the responsibilities of each employee (member) has less of a load. When things go awry or you're unfair, the responsibilities of each member increases and relationships break. In my opinion, a true friendship is the highest level of trust and loyalty. Even marriage isn't at a higher level because in a marriage, the couple has responsibilities to each other. It's much like a business. Did you know Bill Gates and his wife, Melinda, are incorporated?

High school is bull and that's why I graduated two years early.

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synax
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Cell 666
Insane since: Mar 2002

posted posted 08-01-2002 05:21

ramsay: you're an idiot.

DarkGarden
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: in media rea
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 08-01-2002 05:27

Actually high school is wonderful for the kind of rote memorization and regurgitated lack of thought that is expected by most Universities in low science or arts programs. Usually the people that excel and graduate early in high school programs are exactly the kind of assimilated fit that comp science and art profs are looking for.

Of course they also need that "I'm so unique...just like my friends" attitude that makes them wondrous peons for the truly illuminated.

As for replies...what's the point? Usually the people that feel motivated to make anonymous threats are the same ones that feel belittled by a world that sees them as pathetic and also-ran. Look around the asylum, there's a few of those here as well. Young, stupid, pointlessly arrogant with vaccuous expanses that cry out on their need for attention. It's universal.

Best bet is to ignore it. Laugh about it at some point, and realize that homophobia is like any other...a quaking FEAR. Chuckle about scared children...they're funny after all.

DarkGarden
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: in media rea
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 08-01-2002 05:30

Oh...and for what it's worth (in shekels no less), Synax is bang on.

ramsaydesigns
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: The Mountains
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted posted 08-01-2002 05:46

I've never heard that term before... What's "bang on"?

ramsaydesigns
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: The Mountains
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted posted 08-01-2002 05:52

Oh, André, how's the job hunt coming along?

synax
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Cell 666
Insane since: Mar 2002

posted posted 08-01-2002 06:02

You have the ability to read - skillful.

[This message has been edited by synax (edited 08-01-2002).]

ramsaydesigns
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: The Mountains
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted posted 08-01-2002 06:41

Yes, I know I do, synax. Thanks for affirming my abilities and thanks for the compliment!

Luxo_Jr
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Stuck inside a Pixar short film
Insane since: Apr 2001

posted posted 08-01-2002 06:47

Moaiz: Yeah I will send it off to abuse@yahoo.com and about the rest of what you said!!...LOL

Ramsaydesigns: I might block them if they are a hassle. In the meantime though I am not gay (Im obsessed with girls Just ask Skaarjj!;P) and it doesnt really bug me. It's just that I am really curious as to who the hell it could be....I'm like Alice...curiouser and curiouser. And yes I am in College...only 12 or so weeks left!

DarkGarden: As for replies, I felt like it. When it comes to stuff like that, depending on my mood I usually feel like "come on bitch bring it on" As for school...I F****** LOVE IT! Im in Info Sys class right now and bloody hell there are wankers here...but you get that anywhere. It makes it what it is, and I love it. With the other stuff you were saying I agree.


I will talk to the IT guys after class and see what they know or what they can offer...



ramsaydesigns
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: The Mountains
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted posted 08-01-2002 06:53

Luxo, Alice was taking drugs. Who else would follow a rabbit with a one-piece watch into a rabbit hole and then fall through a bunch of psychedelic colors only to find themself in a strange, colorful place? As I recall from the old movie (80s), she ate something that was labeled "Eat me." Now, unless her hormones were raging, there's no way she could grow to those sizes. Anyway, being curious is not always safe... or smart. Remember, Alice was almost killed by the Queen of Hearts (Spades?). I forget.

bitdamaged
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: 100101010011 <-- right about here
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 08-01-2002 07:16

I have to agree with viol, Yahoo isn't gonna help much. (especially cuz it's a hotmail account )

bang on = right on





.:[ Never resist a perfect moment ]:.

Odd Cat
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Alabama
Insane since: Jun 2002

posted posted 08-01-2002 07:54

Ramsay, you remind me of one of my stalkers. 30 yrs old, looks like he's 15, lives with his mom, owns more than one cat, and no social skills to speak of. I mean, I don't know about how you look or live, but I'm pretty sure I'm right about the social skills.
And when you jump into a conversation and make a pointless comment, you sound just like him!

Ah well, I learned to ignore him, I can learn to ignore you.

Oh, and Mahjqa? You rock.

ramsaydesigns
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: The Mountains
Insane since: Jul 2002

posted posted 08-01-2002 08:30

Ditto, Odd Cat. I can ignore you. I don't need to learn how.

Petskull
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: 127 Halcyon Road, Marenia, Atlantis
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 08-01-2002 14:44

oops... thread up and closed all by itself...
don't worry... I'm sure there's another pointless thread around here somwhere...


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