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tomeaglescz
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Czech Republic via Bristol UK
Insane since: Feb 2002

posted posted 09-18-2002 15:19

Well about a month ago or was it sooner i let za know i had problems with one of my clients, who then got busted for pirate software....

well things get better,thez rang me up giving me crap that after i left that thez hadnt uninstalled mz software from their computers, although i warned them to do so and the managing director refused to...

so anyway they got busted for that too, lmao....

now some numpty (read wannabe webmaster) has been taken on and has ported the whole site over to an apache server from iis, now they called me back asking why the site wont work....

Ummm have za got it configured for ASP was my first question.....reply "whats that"

have you got a database connection setup for the password user database answer "erm how ya do that"

i guess you havent got one setup for the models database and photodatabase then answer "nope"

hehehe so then comes the best part...i get asked wanna come fix it for us...my answer nope *snigger*

after all they tried to get me busted for illegal software my pc was clean and i lost it for almost 2 weeks while they checked it

they refused to uninstall my software after i left...got busted for that....

question is what would you have said in my place

RammStein
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From: cEll 513, west wing of the ninth plain
Insane since: Dec 2000

posted posted 09-18-2002 15:24

oh this is classic!

this one goes in the record books of "what does that do?"

LMAO

as for what I would have said .. "sorry .. I don't deal with morons" .. ok maybe I wouldn't of said that .. but I certainly wouldn't have said "yes"


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[This message has been edited by RammStein (edited 09-18-2002).]

InI
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posted posted 09-18-2002 15:27

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tomeaglescz
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From: Czech Republic via Bristol UK
Insane since: Feb 2002

posted posted 09-18-2002 15:34

Ini I thought about that, but then afterwards i thought if i wait long enough for a second call i could charge even more....


erm i wonder why they expected a system tailored for iis to port straight over to apache without any probs, oh yeah i remember they have no brains.

Hey Ini maybe ya can volunteer ya services to em...wont need that zip file then

Emperor
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From: Cell 53, East Wing
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posted posted 09-18-2002 15:41

tomeaglescz: Do I read that correctly? All that mountain of crap that fell on your doorstep was because you refused to fix their stupid mistakes? Or have I got the order of events wrong.

If that is right I'd tell them to go and rot in hell and/or kiss my ass (literally).

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tomeaglescz
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From: Czech Republic via Bristol UK
Insane since: Feb 2002

posted posted 09-18-2002 15:49

emps the mountain of crap started over me explaining to them that the system i orginally designed as per their exact specs was growing way too big..

ie
original specs access database (as they only had office)

website on their IIS server, use asp to feed from database so info always live

tried to get em to go sql server seeing they only wanted ms products...

anyway this access db grew to something like 2 gb...yup thats right...things got bad so i got called in again and said WTF 2GB...shit i am surprised it works at all..

so i told em the route they should go down..they wanted to keep it as it was. so i basically told them well sorry folks i wont support something that will be permanently breaking, ya can take my advice, if ya dont believe me ask around, but if you continue with this then i wont support it anymore.

so we parted company on that basis...then they got busted....then i got checked out because they told the anti piracy guys i worked their and so they paid me the above visit..

thats the order of things..so in a way their stupidity kicked it all off, then the above happened..

InI
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From: Somewhere over the rainbow
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posted posted 09-18-2002 15:57

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Emperor
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posted posted 09-18-2002 16:08

tomeaglescz: I remember you discussing that now. It was pure madness.

InI: Would it not be possible to dump the database as a text file and then use PHP to suck it up and grab out all the variables and stick them in a nice new shiny MySQL DB?

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RammStein
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From: cEll 513, west wing of the ninth plain
Insane since: Dec 2000

posted posted 09-18-2002 16:16

Emp .. you just gave me an idea .. and some questions that need to be answered .. I'd give some details but I've forgotten what DB application one of our clients is using .. it's really REALLY outdated .. but now that I have an idea about what we might be able to do .. I'm looking into it .. thanks Emp


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InI
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posted posted 09-18-2002 16:21

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InI
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posted posted 09-18-2002 16:23

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RammStein
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posted posted 09-18-2002 16:30

InI .. it is outdated but I know there is a way to tie it in with SQL .. just takes alot of hours .. it's for a Stock Transfer company they have over 200k entrees or something rather .. I forget what DB application they are using .. but once I remember the details all find out whether or not it is possible to do .. because they have the money and I've got the bill .. hehe .. set me for the year!

[edit .. fixing english .. again]


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[This message has been edited by RammStein (edited 09-18-2002).]

InI
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posted posted 09-18-2002 16:35

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Emperor
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posted posted 09-18-2002 16:53

RammStein: InI is (as always ) right. As much fun as it would be to charge someone 6 figures to do the job I'd rather have a crack at automating it and save myself haing to do everything by hand (although for that money I suppose you'd get a couple of trained monkeys to do it [damn thats my downfall always with the trained monkeys ]).

Just doing it by hand might result in 10 corrupted records/10,000 anyway and you'd have to check things by hand just to be sure things hadn't screwed up.

[edit: and doing the job for half the price and in a fraction of the time gets you a reputation as a miracle worker and you get more work ]

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RammStein
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From: cEll 513, west wing of the ninth plain
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posted posted 09-18-2002 17:04

well they don't want all the records .. this company has been in business for 50 years .. as for backup .. you bet .. I always make sure to cover EACH base before making a possible fatal move

I'm not in the office right now .. I have the details of what DB application they are using .. InI .. I'll post what the DB is .. and if you have any expertise in it .. your knowledge would be much appreciated!


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InI
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posted posted 09-18-2002 17:11

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RammStein
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posted posted 09-18-2002 21:50

the application is an AS-500 .. if I remember right .. sorry if I get this wrong .. I had a client meeting and never actually went into the office .. but for a moment .. that sound formiliar to you InI?


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InI
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posted posted 09-18-2002 22:15

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RammStein
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posted posted 09-18-2002 22:43

maybe it was AS-400 then .. not very good with numbers at times and I looked at it with a glance


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Emperor
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posted posted 09-18-2002 22:49

RammStein: You might want to get some money out of them to run a feasibility study.

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RammStein
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From: cEll 513, west wing of the ninth plain
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posted posted 09-18-2002 23:22

well it might be done in ASP .. though I'd rather do PHP .. who knows .. I'm doing the research for myself really


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Bugimus
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posted posted 09-18-2002 23:32

InI nailed it. You could have named your price and made them pay dearly for your services. If you really didn't want to work with them again, then they would have declined your offer. If you really didn't want to work with them again and they accepted... well the $$$ would have eased your discomfort quite nicely I should think. Great story! Thanks for sharing that

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Emperor
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posted posted 09-18-2002 23:42

RammStein: What I meant was get some money out of them now so if the project isn't doable you still get paid - but I suspect you are ahead of me on that one anyway

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RammStein
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From: cEll 513, west wing of the ninth plain
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posted posted 09-18-2002 23:48

Emp .. we are already doing there website for them
http://www.fidelitytransfer.com/index.htm


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Emperor
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posted posted 09-18-2002 23:52

RammStein: Ah ha

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tomeaglescz
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From: Czech Republic via Bristol UK
Insane since: Feb 2002

posted posted 09-18-2002 23:54

Bugs glad ya liked it

I personally am enjoying them sweat it out, and just like to go to that site every now and then and look at the mess, laugh he even found the unoptimised flash intro i did as a sample for them its f...g huge ROFLMAO...

well i may wait a few weeks more before i call them with an inflated quote, if they find someone in the mean time, well i dont care...

if they dont well thats my next vacation paid for....or was it a graphics tab and some more memory....

lallous
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From: Lebanon
Insane since: May 2001

posted posted 09-19-2002 10:41

tom, I can do such porting work...

No need to port from ASP to PHP even if moving to Apache...just get a hosting provider that supports ChilliSoft ASP.

etc...

InI
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From: Somewhere over the rainbow
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posted posted 09-19-2002 10:56

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
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