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Rinswind 2th
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Den Haag: The Royal Residence
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 10-27-2002 12:44

Today you are happy with your lives, nice work and stuf like that, maybe a nice family and you really can't remember what the world was before the internet revolution. When you wanted something to know, start the computer start the browser and keep looking till the needed info is there...
For a lots of us this is reality but something happens and now you are, blind, deaf, mentally or physically disabled.
Now What?
Can't do the job anymore! Life at home is hard and you can't hardly use the internet for comunications anymore...

I think we are responsible for creating an www for everyone. So i think we should design sites even the blind can read (with help from a braille display) and the deaf can hear.
To speak with metaphors..

So here is a good read for anyone.
w3c--->Accessibility
For our dutch friends:
Drempelsweg->richtlijnen

I realy like to discuss the matter with some people.

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WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 10-27-2002 13:54

Here is something on that...

Kinda cool...

Is that what you mean?

InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 10-27-2002 14:09

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

mas
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: the space between us
Insane since: Sep 2002

posted posted 10-27-2002 14:13

i agree with InI

but this will be difficult to create, ey?

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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 10-27-2002 14:46

Rinswind 2th: But people already are - its one of the points for going for a non-table standards based web design (it makes your pages more accessible). WaSP focus on these aspects (amongst others):
http://www.webstandards.org

specifically:
http://www.webstandards.org/learn/faq/#p31
http://www.webstandards.org/learn/standards/wai/index.html

and there are a good series of articles at ALA:
http://www.alistapart.com/alaPastIssues/indexAccessibility.html

Run a test on your site here:
http://bobby.watchfire.com

and (as mentioned on the page above (and partly in your post)):

Web Access Initiative: www.w3.org/WAI/

US Access Board (good Lord surely using Java for the rollover navigation is unwise: www.access-board.gov

I was reading the other day that other disabled groups feel that the accessibility has been partly hijacked by the visual impairment lobby (like the RNIB here in the UK) and possibly not enough emphasis is given to the needs of other disabled groups - worth bearing in mind anyway.

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Petskull
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From: 127 Halcyon Road, Marenia, Atlantis
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 10-28-2002 17:26

well, I already design for the deaf, does that count?


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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 10-28-2002 17:29

Pardon?

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Petskull
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From: 127 Halcyon Road, Marenia, Atlantis
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 10-29-2002 19:06
quote:
....blind, deaf, mentally or physically disabled.
...I think we are responsible for creating an www for everyone...



well, I've been designing for the deaf for years.... I'm ahead of the curve!


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Emperor
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Cell 53, East Wing
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 10-29-2002 19:09

You'll have to speak up.

Perfect Thunder
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Milwaukee
Insane since: Oct 2001

posted posted 10-29-2002 23:48

Dive Into Accessibility contains a metric ton of simple real-world ways to make your web pages more accessible to people with disabilities. I only read it recently, but I'm starting to try to design with these guidelines in mind.

Rinswind 2th
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Den Haag: The Royal Residence
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 11-06-2002 20:34

Sorry guys for this late reaction...
had a lot of reading to be done

Ini: "but it should
be "automated" in our browsers and such, an automatic handling of
braille display tools and such."

The problem is that a browser can't display anything what's not coded..
The braille tools can't read images and have trouble with things like tables, frames etc.

The trouble for physically disabled could be small links and buttons which are a pain in the ass to navigate, when you could only move your head an inch to each side. Or blinking thingies... anything what is hard for us, is a disaster for those people.

Thank you guys for al those links i did a lot of reading.


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ettie
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Arlington, Virginia, USA
Insane since: Oct 2002

posted posted 11-06-2002 20:40

windows xp has a reader built into it. You can just turn it on and take a listen. I by law have to do my sites for the handicapped.

ettie

abb
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Victoria, BC
Insane since: Mar 2002

posted posted 11-06-2002 20:45

Think about it, a braille display...

A chambered, inflatable pillow with metal rods above it, so the computer reads the braille code, inflates the pillow with the correct designs and the rods push up in braille text that the blind can see.

How's that for a 30-second idea?

ABB

ettie
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Arlington, Virginia, USA
Insane since: Oct 2002

posted posted 11-06-2002 20:46

windows xp has a reader built into it. You can just turn it on and take a listen. I by law have to do my sites for the handicapped.

ettie

(sorry double posted that)

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Rinswind 2th
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Den Haag: The Royal Residence
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 11-06-2002 21:17

Hopefully i can see this reply... the last one was invisible for me

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