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woohoo...new thread!

ok...to scrap your hull: find a trading post, click trade, click remove upgrades and if you have a HD on you, it will say "do you want to remove 'so and so's' homing device?" then click yes! (unless it's a team mates)

[Emp edit: I thought it best to add in the vital links:
Main FAQ entry
Starship Traders ]

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[This message has been edited by Emperor (edited 03-26-2003).]

It is probably best if we get scraped and then apply HDs to stop naughtiness - I had one but it was from Vkking3 who seems to be opposed o the people who have been nailing us (I got rid of it anyway).

LF: sorry to hear about that - you were doing well but I tried to wanr you and I tried to cover your back (I got Ritualistic Suicide and Peon_4) but unless you could have got rid of the HD and moved you were screwed. Thanks to Lacuna (who gets the Mata Hari Medal for Spying!!) I was able to watch their discussion (I'll upload it and post the link here) and they were drawing in numerous teams and trashing starbases to get the fighters (someone even got on the phone to other team members to see if they could help).

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FAQs: Emperor

Yea, it's all good though. Thanks for the warnings (hopefully next time I'll be on in time to save my ass ). There's still 11-12 days left in the game, so I shouldn't have too much trouble finding my way back to the top (I hope)

[edit: Links:
Main FAQ Entry
Starship Traders

[This message has been edited by Lord_Fukutoku (edited 03-26-2003).]

LF: I think getting your ass kicked by everyone in about 30 galaxies probably won't help

However, you have some great ships in OZN and it looks like things should go well for you there. We have an awful lot of starbases in that area and our team rankings are looking good too. I see two of the horde are 1 and 2 (number 1 is there due to their kicking GTD's behind!!) but they will come a cropper sometime and you could easil sneak up the rankings then

[edit: And have you got any planet stripping tips as I think we should also look at building more bunkers]

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FAQs: Emperor

just had a convo with IRON KNIGHT:

IK: lady lax

lax: hello

IK: i would speak with you if you have time

lax: sure, i'm just doing a bit of trading.

IK: why did you hold back yesterday? your scores show you have might.

lax: i don't have any figs with my ships they are all deployed and if
i move them, then i leave myself open for attack.

IK: are you yet hunting for us?

IK: i see

Lax: but yes, as soon as i run across any GTD members i'll pass it onto you

IK: would you want any terminate or GTD locs should we find them?

IK: I am through with GTD the horde is moving onto maxxx and BFB

IK: we will yet fall by the wayside i fear for BFB is mighty and we are
weary from battle

lax: if i can be of service let me know

IK: thank you lady, i hope one day your forces might fight beside my own.

IK: i must take my leave now lady

lax: ok, be sure to let me know if i can help

IK: may the might of the horde be always at your back.


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lmao, these people are classic

I especially love this: "we will yet fall by the wayside i fear for BFB is mighty and we are
weary from battle"

Weary because of who?? A group of people who've never played this game before haha
But it's good to hear they are moving on... Now we can focus on more important things than surviving... Like making other people worry about surviving (Or maybe not)...

What is this for?

Yannah: If you have the time, check out the first thread and the second thread for this game. I will warn you that it's quite a bit of reading, though.

To the Ozone Federation: Ozone now has a fourth #8 starbase in 20384. I'd like to build a bunker there, but you have to get all the resources off the planet? How on earth do you do that?

Anyway, if anyone wants to camp out in 20384, feel free. So far it's just me, my #8 starbase, and 10,000 fighters. Oh, and anyone passing through can feel free to throw a homing device on me. I just checked and, fortunately, I don't have any on me yet.

[Edit: Wow, I've also shot up in the rankings... from 70 to 41. Nothing compared to Lord_F, of course... ]

[This message has been edited by Suho1004 (edited 03-26-2003).]

Suho, Emps, anyone else interested: Stripping a planet is just a slightly modified (and more tedious process than what I put for a trading strategy in the FAQ.
First off, you need a planet (ideally with iron and alcohol under 10k, hardware isn't so important because it's easy to get rid of that). Make sure you can move it to where you want it (ie. no nebulas in the way, even though that just a slight annoyance). Depending on the amount of resources on the planet, it takes somewhere around 1mil grams AM (I think).
Now set your compuTrade for at least 4 moves, use that until you find a depot (HW, GreenPort, RockMine) and 'nudge' that back to the sector with your planet (and hope you don't hit any nebulas). Autoscoop, computrade, nudge, repeat.
The only real difference between this and just trading is when you nudge the depot, you go to the same sector everytime, rather than just the nearest planet.
Since iron is the hardest one to trade off the planet (as you'll find out if you try to strip a planet of 25,000+ iron), I'd recommend advertising the sector your trying to strip a planet in here, and everyone use that planet next time they make fighters.

If you can convince someone to help you strip a planet, it should go by relatively fast.
And when you start getting into this, nebulas will really start to tick you off

I'm about to work on a couple ships, so I'll drop a HD your way Suho. (Might even start working on your planet, haha)

[edit: Well, it wouldn't let me attach a HD to you Suho because we're on the same team... What's the trick to that? One of my ships has a HD from chudtza and they are on our team...
Just use a HD launcher and set one in an empty sector and hope someone hits it maybe?

[This message has been edited by Lord_Fukutoku (edited 03-26-2003).]

LF: Ahhhhh bring in new depots once you have traded out another one.

Another small tip - after autoscooping you can keep trading so go for autoland (unless the planet is a hardware one when you have to use l to land manually because hw is the first commondity picked up with the first autoland) you can then sellonly at the depot and keep doing this (if you have a hardware trading depot then after the first landing you can now use autoland is it will now pick up alcohol or iron - depending on what you selected on the first manual landing). If things work right (and it helps if you have a little traded depot) you can continue this for quite a while (I found one planet/depot combination where I could get 2.5k for each trade which was nice).

If people could try scooping 17142 and see what we can do - I might shuffle depots through there to freshen things up a little

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FAQs: Emperor

Seems we have some new neighbors moving in, and I'm in the wrong ship to do anything at the moment... (target practice Dan )

17425 - Corvette: Scout+0 MONKEYINATEAPOT of [---] with 0 fighter(s) [asleep]

18968 - Battleship: Nomad+1 BELFASTBOMBER of [---] with 3550 fighter(s) [asleep]

26590 - Corvette: Scout+6 DIRTY DEEDS of [---] with 0 fighter(s) [asleep]

nevermind this one... *17088 - Al Chip [Enemy Starbase: 6400]*


[edit: I like this: "(You can build up to 13436 fighter(s) @ 1 hold iron & 400 microbots/each)"
BTW, Suho's planet in 20384 is close to being able to have a bunker:
There are:
74 holds of hw,
131 holds alc,
10658 holds iron
So anytime someone makes some fighters, use that planet (unless you're working on stripping your own right now).
Oh yea, you're welcome Suho, (Nice trade actually... He gets a bunker, I get 4 ships back in the top 10)

[This message has been edited by Lord_Fukutoku (edited 03-26-2003).]

LF: I spotted a few of them (and Stigy at 22543) - the 0 fighter people can just be moved on (pos a graffiti beacon telling them to leave) - I have passed on BelfastBombers location to people who might be interested in doing something about that

The USS Saratoga (19694) is also around with 5ks worth of fighters but they haven't actually done anything and I was thinking of dropping them a line to suggest some kind of non-aggression pact

[edit: added a few ship locations.]

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FAQs: Emperor

Well Team OZN (and our other groups) is doing well:

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______________Team_Name________________ Abbrev. Rank Score (1000s)
Why Not [WHY] 1 118053 K
The Ozone Federation [OZN] 2 110760 K
Imperial Merchant Training Academy [YEP] 3 107633 K
big fat boys [BFB] 4 92210 K
Laxtest [LAX] 5 91249 K
The Horde's Grand Inquisition [HGI] 6 81588 K
Fractal Genetics [FRA] 7 57346 K
OverNight Express [ONE] 8 55329 K
Gotterdammerung [GTD] 9 49401 K

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[edit: And it is worth pointing out that half team GTD are in hospital waiting for the 4 million AM fuel to build up so they can come back in one turn so things are looking good for them too]

as is LF:

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______Player_Name_______ ____Title+Level____Team Rank Ship __Score__ _Region_
IRON KNIGHT Ogre+9 [HGI] 1* HDe 12441431 200001s
SECOND SIGHT Mercenary+9 [WHY] 2* Bat 11582382 160001s
GOTT MIT UNS Thug+4 [HGI] 3* SBa 11551416 220001s
LORD_AGAIN Hunter+3 [OZN] 4* Cru 11254416 1s
DUMPTRUCK Hunter+3 [OZN] 5* SFr 11222595 20001s
EVIL_OVERLORD Hunter+2 [OZN] 6* SLi 11127026 20001s
VALENCIAII Ensign+8 [YEP] 7* Lin 10974761 80001s
FOOTLOOSE Commander+7 [CLN] 8* SDe 10972553 240001s
LORD_OF_LORDS Hunter+1 [OZN] 9* SLi 10886288 20001s
SLUGGO Warmonger+6 [---] 10* HLi 10842672 60001s
CAVEBEAR Ensign+6 [---] 11* HBa 10756879 100001s
OZONE1 Hunter+1 [FRA] 12* SLi 10746565 140001s
AZNDRKNES Commodore+2 [YEP] 13* HLi 10612241 200001s
MR PIB Mercenary+4 [---] 14* Lin 10551698 160001s
KUMALA2 Ensign+8 [---] 15* HCr 10272632 200001s
RAGER Ensign+7 [WHY] 16* HCr 10262494 180001s
KNIGHT OF PASSION Ogre+5 [---] 17* Bat 10214779 40001s
OZONE2 Ensign+8 [FRA] 18* SLi 10189873 140001s

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FAQs: Emperor

wonderful!!

with the horde working on BFB that will knock them out of the running pretty quickly. assuming of course, they've got enough to do it between themselves and a couple allie teams. they should....i'll throw one or two of my players their way if they don't. it'll knock my lil team down, but it'll keep our other teams up there!
then, on the last couple days of the game, i'll use my lax team (or what's left of it) to work on whatever team is in the #1 place. that should leave it for the ozn team.

right now, my lax team has 15 starbases (all 6,7 and 8) and the team as a whole has 109k figs. towards the last few days i should have nearly 200k figs (if i'm not attacked or go hunting too many people) and i was thinking of salavaging my bases the last couple of days so i could increase the number of figs. if anyone has any suggestions or a better way for me to do things...please let me know

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Nifty! Thanks, Lord_F... and yes, if anyone needs to make any fighters, feel free to strip my planet clean!

Not sure about the homing device. No one has taken an interest in me so far, so I guess I'll just make regular stops at trading posts before heading home each day, just to make sure.

[Edit: Interesting... I'm not sure how this happened, but this is the report on my planet now:

There are 4386 holds of hardware
There are 95 holds of alcohol
There are 9044 holds of iron

Do the resources slowly build back up? I guess I'll have to start pushing some depots around...]

[Edit2: OK... I've now got a bunker on that planet. It's only level 4 so far, because I only start with 200k or so of antimatter today. I'll have to go back out this evening and do some trading so I can build it up.

Another question: does my starbase help with the defense of the bunker, or can they be destroyed separately?]

[This message has been edited by Suho1004 (edited 03-27-2003).]

[This message has been edited by Suho1004 (edited 03-27-2003).]

Suho: Yep, the planet's resources slowly build back up (until you put a bunker there), but as long as it's just hardware 'restocking' it shouldn't be much of a problem. Afterall, you didn't actually expect me to do all the work for you, right? haha

Scraping HD's: After Bulldozer was thoroughly wiped out, I've been trying to make a habit of stopping by a trading post before I log out. This would probably be wise, even if you have a friendly HD on your ship, just to make sure every few days at least

Hi kids. Um those HD's someone was sayin from me, were left in a random sector...

and i took out a BFB lone scout.. hope that doesnt really mean anything, i doubt it would..

anywho gonna go play now, latr _ry

Lord_F: Yup, well, I managed to do it all by myself! Aren't you proud of me? It's now up to level 8... waiting for more fuel.

chudzta: Hmm... I'm not sure if it's such a great idea to attack people, especially a single scout for no reason. Some people might not care, but others may just put you on their list of people to wipe out.... I've pretty much left everyone else alone, and they've left me alone--so far. That's why I'm building up my bunker and fighter forces.

Then again, I've never run into enemy scouts, so I wouldn't know the temptation...

well, i have yet to be sought after yet and ive messed with anything ive seen, rarely have i lost ll my fighters tho so most of what ive struck is screwied for a bit... anywho i also have a name ATZDUHC... chudzta backackwards of course... just for dirty work... sacrificial and more suicidal than my OZN nick... any coords are highly appreciated, mesa lova la debrisa _ry

well...some lil peckerwood blew up one of my star bases....needless to say...i want his head!!! (and i don't necessiarly mean the big one lol).
so if anyone sees STORM FORCE anywhere please let me know asap!!!!

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Lacuna: I point blank refuses to chop of the top of a chap's Old Chap - even if you request it!! Its just not cricket

I'll be away for the weekend for a stag do and if I survive we should be ready for the big push.

So keep doing what you are already doing:

OZN and FRA reinforcing the area and keeping an eye open for problems

GTD - everyone get out of hospital and get back to strength as I suspect the last week might get nasty. We are hunting wabbits and Dan and Lacuna now the details and can keep nosing around and see what comes - if we can bump off some of the top ranked players then LF stands quite a good chance of pouncing to the top!!

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FAQs: Emperor

Level 16 bunker... and climbing. I just want to have some place to hole up when the excrement hits the rotary cooling device.

What's the maximum on those things, level 20? I figure I'll get it up to about there and then start building up my fighters...

ack, i had a homing device! who is chutzda? lacuna, next time i see you, plant one on me... hehe, that sounds odd

edit: /blush i found you in the faq chutzda.. darn, now i wish i hadn't scrapped it off.. if you see me, misty, i could use another

[This message has been edited by velvetrose (edited 03-27-2003).]

OK... I was just reading through the crappy music page, and it says that 25 is the max level for bunkers (well, it doesn't explicitly say that, but it keeps talking about level 25 bunkers, so...). He also mentions something about buying the maximum of 200 holds. Did I miss something here? I have a stealth liner, which, as far as I know, is in the top tier of ships--and that can hold a maximum of 140 holds. Where is this 200-hold ship hiding?

Anyway, now that I have a bunker I have a place to store my holds... which means I can start buying up combat computers and storing them away for the final days...

And then the Guardian Angel will come forth on the wings of wrath, bearing a flaming sword in his right hand and a shield of righteousness in his left hand, to utterly destroy those who would stand in the way of the Ozone Federation!

My goodness, I'm starting to sound like Iron Knight.

Suho - haha, yea, when I went through that page it kinda threw me a curveball as well... As you would imagine, all kinds of variables can be changed between each game (number of galaxies/sectors, max # of holds, max level of bunkers, costs, time factors, etc. etc.).
In this game, the max a bunker can be is level 20 (3:1 ratio)

I got a little info on a team LAX while I was scooting around the galaxy:

2669 - LAXZ3 [LAX]
StarBase: 800
Fighters: 400

2874 - LAXZ9
StarBase: 6400
Fighters: 3200

Not sure if it is of any use to anyone. If it is, let me know. I can easily post what I come across but if it is useless information I don't want to waste a post.


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LF: Ah, thanks... I wasn't aware of that.

WM: Um, [LAX] is Lacuna's black ops team... I hope you haven't killed her.

uh....anyone have a fish i can borrow to slap warmage with??? lol

like suho said, that's my OTHER team....using it for undercover work
but hey, i do have to give you credit for at least posting important info!! just on the wrong team
i have to check my ships now...you've made me nervous

[edit] ok....he didn't kill me!!! whew!!! [/edit]
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[This message has been edited by Lacuna (edited 03-28-2003).]

Well that's good to hear.

LF: A few questions. On the crappy music page it says you can switch out holds and combat computers, leaving one set in the bunker when you need to use the other set for trading/combat. When I'm in my bunker, though, I only have the option to leave bots and AM... is it possible to leave other things there? If so, how?

I also noticed you have a starbase and bunker in 22945 (two upstream from me). I read (again, crappy music page) that nudging depots out of sectors with bunkers in them is a good idea, so people won't try to scoop your planet and discover the bunker. Then again, you've got a starbase there as well, so I don't know if that would deny people entrance anyway... I'm still trying to get the hang of the military aspect here.

Good thing I didn't attack. I was just scouting a bit. You are pretty obvious. I had some other my team in the area for a while. The team is MAG, magicalX which contains my ships magical_0x - magical_3x.

So now that I know I won't spend my time killing those areas.

On the same topic of killing people. Does anyone have any loc's that I should go and destroy? I have some ships that are waiting to kill some people.


Me

um...somewhere...a la lil scrap of paper, i have someone you could kill if you felt like it....though, it's not necessary
dunno that he'll still be there.

180066: MORTAL BATON of [AID] 12608 figs (asleep)

and yeah, i am kinda obvious, but the locs you gave for me are just beginnings of the enterance to my main base...there's still tons to go before you can get there...

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started another trader, she joined a team that apparently has been at odds with some of us.. for more info, q me..

bunkers are for keeping AM if you can't use it all while playing, also for hiding.
take out all ports and depots within 4 moves coming into the port above your bunker, not outgoing though. that's to avoid computraders from accidentally discovering you.

suho, i can understand storing fuel (AM) for the final days, but how will storing other stuff help?

Well, the idea is to buy up a whole load of combat computers (like a hundred or so) and then swap these out with the holds. So when I go trading I can have my holds, and when I need to destroy people I can come back to my bunker, drop off my holds and pick up my combat computers.

That's the way it's supposed to work--or at least that's what the crappy music page says. It is possible that the game has been changed since the crappy music page was written, since I don't see any way right now to drop off anything but bots and AM.

As for saving up AM for the final days... I'm not sure I see the point in that. Wouldn't it be more efficient to earn as much money as possible with that fuel so you can buy fighters (if you're going on a rampage)?

Anyway, if anyone else has figured out a way to store holds, combat computers, etc. (in other words, anything but bots and AM) in a bunker, let me know.

quote:

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take out all ports and depots within 4 moves coming into the port above your bunker

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On that note, I deliberately cleared 20384 of its depot... but I noticed that someone (ahem, Raptor) pushed a depot back in there. This is a request to all: please do not push any depots into 20384, and if you do accidentally push one in, please push it back out again. Leaving a depot next to my planet is just asking for someone to try to autoscoop it, at which point they will discover my bunker... and that is not a good thing.

[Edit: Oh, and unless you're really patient, clearing out all depots within four moves of your bunker--and keep those paths cleared--is pretty much impossible.]

[This message has been edited by Suho1004 (edited 03-28-2003).]

Suho - (Bunkers) - Actually, I haven't tried to store anything there... Just using them to hide myself. However, the way I interpreted the crappy music page is that the game had several different settings when the page was made.
ie. Your ship had X number of slots to put things... Not X : Y slots, like it is now, where there are X slots that can hold anything except holds, and Y slots that can hold holds. So perhaps in a previous incarnation of the game, a ship that had 150 total slots, could hold 150 holds, or 150 combat computers, etc etc, which would make storing these in bunkers very useful. But since, like you said about the bunkers (can't store anything except AM and bots), and the X : Y number of slots, I think a lot of the game specific info on that page is irrelevent now.
(But I could be wrong... Wouldn't be the first time this year )

Clearing out 4 sectors in front of your base - hahahahahahahaha... Well... Yea, that would be very useful... And in a couple of the galaxies, it might even be a somewhat reasonable task... However, since we're in a '5 exit, 1 way', this is far more than unreasonable...
There are 5 sectors that link directly to each sector... so one sector deep from yours would be 5 sectors (not so bad)... However, each of those have 5 entrances... At 2 sectors deep, you now have 30 sectors to clear out... At 3 sectors deep, you would need to empty 155 sectors... And at 4 deep, 680 sectors... Noticing a pattern anyone?
sigma(from i=1 -> n) of 5^i ==also written== (5 + 5^2 + 5^3 + ... + 5^n)
Where n is the depth you want to go from a particular sector.
Now I'll be expecting a complete proof by induction before the day's over

[edit: target list for anyone who's inetrested:
GEHODRA2 destroyed your starship


[This message has been edited by Lord_Fukutoku (edited 03-28-2003).]

Suho - It wasn't deliberate, but I'll be sure to check 20384 anytime I've nudged a port around the galaxy.

GTD: I've started a starbase at 125800, but I'm thinking of moving that (kind of a conspicuous location, yes? )

well, it seems that the WHY team 'just wants to be left alone'.....they want to move onto the 200 game so they aren't concerned with messing with anyone in this game. this was told to me by the HGI team. i saw the two talking this morning and asked what was up with that. so the WHY team wants to get all of their ships in the top 15%. if i'm right...then that's the top 135 (roughly).
i don't know if this info is really of any value....i, personally, don't care what they want! their team needs to be knocked out of the top spot so our team can get in!
also, the horde is planning on staying in the 100 game. they have no desire to move onto 200. at least that's what they said.....


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I just wanted to post a little update. I have been working on my SST consol a little more. It is not yet desireable for use, but it is making some headway. I figure in another 2 or 3 weeks I should have a nice little prototype done that will give some nice benifits to your play. Clean like the telnet yet clickable like the web. From the prototype the sky is the limit. Once I get the basic parsing down I am sure I can come up with a lot more.
http://www.sinc.sunysb.edu/Stu/dcurran/sst is the browsable directory. You need to have java installed on your system to compile the software, and the JRE to run it.


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Wow, looking great WarMage. Can't wait to see how it turns out.

warmage....i can't look at what you made...i'm sure it's only cuz i'm an idiot! but i'm sure you've done good!

also, have a bit of a tip, it's something i wish i would have known sooner! since, the only time a stealth ship is stealth, is when you're online, it provides no saftey when you're not online....so it's better to have a hyper ship....you can at least jump around in different galaxies and don't have to by a wormhole or booster to go somewhere. just my opinion anyways....

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Lord_F: Ah, that's what I was afraid of... so no swapping out holds and combat computers... drat. On the positive side, though, that means I'm going to find very few people coming along with 150 combat computers, which makes my bunker even better! (In fact, now that I think about it, the fewer combat computers that most people will be carrying around is probably why the max bunker level was dropped to 20...)

Raptor: Oh, I know it wasn't intentional... I just got a little freaked out when I saw that someone had been in my sector--and had nudged a depot in there, which means that someone had discovered my bunker. I felt better after I checked the FAQ, but I was still in "freaked out" mode when I posted.



WM: Clean and convenient sounds very good. I've tried to use the graphical client, but it's so.... painfully... slow... So I just stick to the web interface.

TINMAN killed 63 of your fighters (you earned 12800 reputation points)
TINMAN destroyed your starship.

You power on your viewport and see... a hospital room!
You slip quietly down the stairs and into a nearby starship.

then a short conversation with nicole_ , followed by a similar hysterically funny conversation with laxzgunner .. the chick only wanted to talk sex..

Sorry to hear about your ship...

You do know who laxzgunner is, right?

yes indeed! Lacuna!

which reminds me, this is the second time velvet has been reduced to rubble, well, not rubble, but down to bare minimum and each time i ended up in a different galaxy than the one i started in.. why?

LOL i couldn't believe that girl!!!!! if i could have reached through the computer i would have slapped her!
if i find her ship i'm going to blow it up!!!! lol lil wench!

ok...on the news front....there's not much. apparently, from what i understood, the horde got one of the GTD ships...does anyone know for sure??
i wasn't online when it happened....but apparently it was a 'revenge' killing.....
also, they don't plan on touching the YEP team or the WHY team.....they are only concerned with BFB. so unfortunately, that kinda buggers what i had in mind....but if i get enough figs....my plan still may work! i've switched most of my ships over to hyper ships and nearly all of them have 10cc each. so i should be able to take out quite a few players!
i also had to dismantle all my bases and move all my figs tonight because i got a tip that someone was after me....and since they gave the correct info about my team....i figured they were being honest. it's something i was planning on doing...just not this soon.

ok...i think that's all the info....
velvet....you're down near the same place i am (or you were before you were destroyed) you're more than welcome to park your ship with one of mine....dunno how much good it would do....but it's an option anyways.




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Well, on the positive side, I've crept up to 43rd place, but Lord_F has fallen quite a bit. I'm guessing (hoping) that it's just because he hasn't logged on in a while, and that he will quickly regain his former glory with all that fuel he has stored up.

OZN is still in third place, but we are closing in on WHY...

Once again Suho hits the nail on the head
Yea, I haven't been on in about 3 days... signed on quick yesterday to a couple ships to see if I was still alive and checked the standings and saw 4 of my ships still in the top 20 (6-7 in the top 40) after 2 days of sitting idle

I'll probably catch back up this weekend... Maybe...

And congrats Suho on getting up to 43. I think it'd be pretty nice to have as many of us up in the top 50 as we can when the game ends...


17492 Corvette: Tug Captain+7 RAYTHIA of [---] with 0 fighter(s) [asleep]

17425 Corvette: Scout+0 MONKEYINATEAPOT of [---] with 0 fighter(s) [asleep] <-- still

*grins at finding Lac's bunker...* (BTW, I nudged the port out of that sector,... We'll see how long it lasts...)

29073 MARDUK THE DISAGREEABLE [EOS] [Enemy Starbase: 50]


All righty, got my 4 in OZN back up where they belong ... And I suspect that there are several new ships about to show up this week from out of nowhere and suddenly be in the top 10 -20... Just look at the differences in peoples scores in the top 20... There are about 6-7 right now that seen to very patient when they are trading and using other ships to "set up" series of planet/depot combinations (ideally green ports and rock mines, that are buying HW at $23-24)...

[This message has been edited by Lord_Fukutoku (edited 03-30-2003).]

hi kids, chudzta and atzduhc were out terrorizing a few places, and i lost a bunch of troops overtime, so there are still two more starbases u are open to attack at 93937, 87631......come with a nice size army... anywho... i think chudzta, the one in OZN, is up to 169 or something close.. hopefully i can push it to the top 15% soon.. who knows.. i guess it would help to figure out what the top 15% really is...

btw im having good success with planting homing devices in random sectors and pickin up prey. bout one a day, and an occasional OZN locks on for good luck, i also notice it happens the other way around alot, so scrape ur hulls b4 u got to sleep...

im done for the day, ttyl _ry

ok, Misty is ready to join a team. merchant +7. one starbase. any suggestions?

lacuna - i passed you sleeping as i went back and forth to pickup hw to build the starbase.

Just a quick rundown of where we all stand...
The Ozone Federation [OZN] 3 132283 K
LORD_AGAIN Thug+7 8* Cru 13865192
DUMPTRUCK Hunter+3 9* SFr 13762589
EVIL_OVERLORD Thug+5 10* SLi 13464189
LORD_OF_LORDS Thug+4 12* SLi 13340799
GUARDIAN_ANGEL Ensign+3 47* SLi 10055511
OBSIDIAN Ensign+3 71* Fre 8985707
LACUNA Merchant+6 94* SCr 8143056
EMPEROR_MING Merchant+9 103* Cru 7709670
RAPTOR5 Merchant+0 105* HCr 7673256
MAGICAL_6X Merchant+5 139* SCr 6869380
CHUDZTA Trader+2 170 HCr 5920885
THANTOS Trader+9 178 Fre 5793790
OCTAL9 Nomad+0 209 SFr 5135333
DUFTY Space Cadet+7 261 Bat 4365642
SYLENSE Space Cadet+6 268 SBa 4230015
TIKIGOD Scout+8 351 SBa 2958157

Fractal Genetics [FRA] 9 60076 K
OZONE1 Hunter+1 35* SLi 10917396
OZONE2 Ensign+8 44* SLi 10287788
ZELLAC Ensign+2 60* SLi 9415148
CASCADING SYMMETRY Merchant+9 73* SFr 8928859
STRANGE GEOMETRY Merchant+5 88* SLi 8205125
DARK BIOLOGY Merchant+1 157 SLi 6213036
SIGHLANCE Space Cadet+5 158 SFr 6111172

Gotterdammerung [GTD] 7 66991 K
JACKHAMMER Ensign+1 61* HDe 9405423
ICARUS FALLS Trader+8 133* HBa 6984573
DEFENSEMECHANISM Trader+0 220 Bat 4965686
BULLDOZER Merchant+4 232 Cor 4754373
SANGUINARY Nomad+1 234 HBa 4747036
MUTTER Nomad+1 242 HFr 4636033
A PALE HORSE Trader+3 254 Bat 4477324
RAPTOR3 Trader+3 256 HBa 4400610
JAEGAR Space Cadet+8 260 HFr 4366569
RAPTOR2 Trader+1 310 HBa 3635064
TERMINATEMACHINE (in hospital) 331 HBa 3286255
TERMINATEDRONE (in hospital) 334 HBa 3229341
TERMINATEFIGHTER (in hospital) 345 SBa 3023529
BAAL Nomad+3 347 Bat 2997144
SAI-LENS ?? Can't find anything on you, haha. You find a super-stealth ship and aren't telling anyone?


Just a thought, but what do ya'll think of doing some "team swapping" in the last couple days? For instance, take the highest 16 ships of all of ours, and put them in OZN, to see if we can maybe take the top spot of the teams? It would take a fairly coordinated effort, so I'm not real sure if it'd be more trouble than it's worth...
But what does anyone else think?

And velvetrose, you might look into joining FRA (although you can't move your starbase), as there's only 7 in there right now.

geezzz...everyone's just runnin over the top me LOL
well, i did move all of my ships because i went and picked a fight with the BFB team today....i managed to get quite a bit of their stuff...so i'm sure they'll be looking for me soon i think i've got all my ships pretty well hidden for the time being. so if anyone has any info on any BFB members please throw it my way!

i want to know how to get a ship that you can't get info on.....i've been looking everywhere for info on this guy and couldn't figure out why there was no info....

velvet: apply to the FRA team....we could use more players on that one...


WELL......it seems all my lying and sneaking has paid off....the horde asked me to join their team in the next game! i told them i'd think about it....didn't want to seem too eager also...we flattened the BFB team tonight...was actually kinda cool. so, i'm going to spend the next two or three days building up figs (i have 120k right now). then i'll start working on the other two teams

LF: that's probably not a bad idea...though, i would like to wait til emps gets back and see what he thinks also.


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[This message has been edited by Lacuna (edited 03-30-2003).]

How do you go about figuring out the standings?

Those who are well in the top. What do you actually do in order to get that high?
What type of equipment?
how do you go about deciding how to trade? where to trade? when to trade?
how do you use your fuel? how much?
how do you decide to convert money and iron to fighters?
how do you know when it is a good idea to attack?

how do you do your book keeping? Do you keep it all in your head, do you keep a lot?

What is your number 1 tip for improving your score?


Me

Hi Kids, at the time of wrting this i got up to 159.. i think 147 is top 15% so im getting closer, i might edge out before its all over..

me and my alter ego atzduhc terrorized IAA... somewhat. Took out starbases at 87631, 85722, 85799. And now several ships lay there unguarded in each one. I did place a few homing devices.. and attacked one with only a couple hundred fighters.. but once again fuel went low and i had to stop having fun. 93937 still has a major butt starbase at it too owned by PIMONKEY.

_ry

WM: here's a site for the manual, that might be able to help you out with the rankings and scoring and such: http://www.geocities.com/kirellii/manual.html

even though i'm not one of the top players, my team is one of the top teams...so i'll tell ya what i've learned this far.

What type of equipment? a good bare minimum when starting out is a tractor device, stats module, super computer and autoscoop and a black hole orbiter (so you don't get sucked up). upgrade your ship and holds to the next highest level asap and then stay there until you've built up enough money/bases/bunkers/figs. that way you can use the ship with the highest efficiency (sp?) and less bays. when deciding to upgrade your ship to a hyper ship or a stealth ship, you need to take some things into consideration. with a hyper ship you can boost into other galaxies and it only costs you 20,000 grams of fuel and don't have to worry about having bays open or money for booster rockets, but if you have a stealth ship and you're trading at $1500/kg fuel you can make more money (about $3000) more per trading session just buying rocket boosters and saving the 20,000 grams of fuel. but, it's a pain to make sure that you always have a bay open or have a rocket booster with you, not to mention then finding a good trading post that you can buy boosters at for a reasonable price. also, you need to think about how many bays you're going to need. you obviously will need the min. 5, but if you're going to have loads of figs then you're going to want to have either sheilds or combat computers or both. you can only have 10 each of those. so that would be 25. but if you're planning on defending and not attacking, then you wouldn't need the combat computers and could just go with the sheilds. so then you'd only need 15. but then you may want a scout launcher, which can save you fuel in the long run, by scouting sectors with more planet/port combos etc. it really depends on what kind of game you're playing....

how do you go about deciding how to trade? well, it's always more profitible to autoscoop whenever possible.

where to trade? i've been told definately do NOT trade alot in the sectors where you're hiding. it's usually better to do it in a different galaxy, though it can be a pain to find one with good planet/ports, which is where a scout would come in handy. i haven't tried that too much though because if you get a good farm going downstream from your base and have all of your upstream stuff covered, then you should be fairly safe from attack.

when to trade? well...if you want money, you have to trade. it's silly to go running around the galaxy and not trading and wasting all that fuel....so trading all the time is good.

how do you use your fuel? how much? at the beginning, i wasn't real good with using my fuel wisely, but i would say now, i only use my fuel for trading or attacking. otherwise i just sit in one spot. i also don't drag my figs around with me, as they lower your efficiency.

how do you decide to convert money and iron to fighters? really, that's up to you when you decide you want to do it. i think a good minimum of figs to have guarding your base or bunker is 10k. then you really don't have to worry too much about the lesser players messing with you, but you do tend to become a target of the bigger players. as i said before, just don't go dragging them around with you when you're trading.

how do you know when it is a good idea to attack? i don't attack people (usually) unless i am either very well hidden or i think i could withstand an attack. it's a good idea to have an 'indy' (independant ship) to do all your attacking with, as it can't be traced back to you.

how do you do your book keeping? Do you keep it all in your head, do you keep a lot? i keep all of my info on hundreds of pieces of paper all over my desk LOL i do try to keep all of my player info nice and orderly in a txt document and then just edit it each day. i then print a new one every few days with the updated info so it looks nice and neat. i keep track of all of the upstream sectors and what and how much stuff i have in each. i keep track of each player's type of ship and it's inventory. and i try to keep track of what sectors they are in. i also keep track of good trading posts and where i've seen other ships/bases/bunkers etc.

What is your number 1 tip for improving your score? i don't really have a number 1 tip....so here are some of the things that i learned hmmm....well, attacking is one way, though i don't know that it's a good way. it's better if you attack higher players than yourself, as it knocks them lower. don't sit on all your fuel, as only a percentage of it is calculated for your net worth. try to set up trade routes so you can go from one planet/port to another with very little fuel used. i also only autoscoop planets two or three times as that's when you get the best prices, then nudge in a new port...it costs less fuel to move a port than it does a planet. it's also not a bad idea to have a wormhole to another galaxy....it's spendy at first, but if it's a galaxy that has good trading, and all your ships can use it...then you can make that money back in the long run.


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chudzta: i went and took out all of those ships and that one base i just felt like going on a killing spree today.

and just in case i forget.....when karma comes around and kicks me in the ass for this and i'm whining about it...please remind me of this LOL

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Ahhahahahaha sweet. They arent gonna be happy bunch of peoples. They were like 9th or so in the team standings so thats gotta hurtem big time... we were really close to moving up to 2nd earlier today. Keep at it guys! _ry

Just to comment on Lacuna's tips up there:

I disagree a bit on the equipment, but perhaps that's because I have a different strategy. The only thing I would not buy would be the black hole orbiter. If you buy a nav module black holes are clearly marked, so you can avoid them easily. If you want to park near a black hole it would be useful, but I usually just stay away from them.

I would also recommend an addition to that bare minimum list: a planet locator. This is really vital if you want to go nudging depots around so you can autoscoop planets. If you have a planet locator and come upon a depot by itself, you can click "nudge depot" and then "locate planet" and it will give you an auto-pilot map to the nearest planet (usually two or three sectors away). This is much better than just randomly flying around and hoping to stumble on planet/depot combinations--not only does it take more time, but there's a far greater chance that someone has recently scooped the planet and you'll get less money from the deal.

(While we're on the subject of scooping planets, there's something that I've been meaning to mention. The FAQ recommends scooping and then auto landing/sell only combinations, but I do not think this is a good idea. The whole idea behind a stats module is to maximize your fuel/profit ratio when scooping, and by continuing to land and trade after the auto-scooping stops defeats this purpose.)

So that leaves me with an equipment set of: tractor device, stats module, super computer, autoscoop, nav module, and planet locator. That's six, which means you're not going to be able to get a freighter (which only has five equipment bays). If you really wanted to go with the freighter you might drop the nav module and then just hope you don't get sucked into any black holes, but I don't think it's worth it.

Since I'm already going with the liner, I'll pick up a sector scanner for my seventh piece of equipment. This shows enemy fighters and starbases in adjacent sectors, which is obviously a good thing. For the final three equipment bays I would go with either shields or combat computers, depending on whether you're adopting an offensive or defensive posture. My ship right now has one shield and two combat computers, but if I had known what I was doing when I bought them, I would have just bought three shields. I could always sell the combat computers, but that would mean losing money (however small an amount it may be).

That's about all I have to add. I was 37th last time I checked, but I've probably slipped a bit since then. I, too, wasted a lot of time and fuel in the beginning, before I figured out what I was doing, but I've managed to make up for it since then. These days my profit per kg of fuel ratio usually comes out in the $1600-$1750 range.

Lacuna's advice is good. What you do ultimately depends on what your strategy is.

that is a good point suho! never really thought about them being marked....DUH! i just do alot of ctrading and have gotten sucked into them by mistake....cuz i wasn't paying attention lol and it really ticks me off to end up out in the middle of nowhere lol



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Hehe... yeah, I learned pretty early on, because the nav module was one of the first things I got. I went through a black hole once, just for the heck of it, and it destroyed a bunch of my fighters. I avoided them after that.

Oh, another thing I wanted to mention (but forgot to): attacking other players does not actually increase your score--but it does lower the other player's score. For every point you lose in attacking you get a reputation point, which means that your score stays the same, but for every point you lose defending you only get half a reputation point, so your score goes down if you get attacked. So, relatively speaking, your score does go up--but only in relation to the player you attacked. Important difference. (I got this info from the crappy music page, by the way.)

Oh, and thanks a bundle for the manual link. I knew there was a manual around somewhere, but I didn't know where. It's a great help!

hahahahah sorry, i've had that link from nearly the beginning....just thought everyone else had it as well

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I knew that suho. They were like 10th, now IAA is like 20th. So they are no longer a threat to FRA's rank... all but 3 of em are goners for now.. hehe. _ry

Huh? I'm confused. What did you know? And who is "they"? I must have missed something somewhere along the way...

uh Lacuna, you didn't use your FRA starship on your killing spree did you?

I'm pretty sure she's using her LAX team for the killing sprees... she's got a combined 130k fighters in that team. I wouldn't want to piss her off...

hahaha no velvetrose, i'm using the LAX team for all of this evilness also, i spotted your misty player, so i put a homing device on it so no one else can...just don't scrape it off now lol

since all the killing i've done over the last two days, i'm down to 107k figs....should have it back up in a couple days though. not too worried...i've managed to hide pretty well except my one player that's near the OZN area....

the horde has no one to go after now, except the OZN team, obviously, i'll be doing everything i can to prevent that and letting everyone know when they need to move. i'll post it here...and for those of you that have me on ICQ i'll Q you.

warmage: i Q'd you earlier...(you haven't authorized me)....i don't know if you have numerous magical X players on another team, but someone named POUND has found a bunch of them and was wanting to give their locs away over the radio tonight...he logged off before i could get to him, but next time i see him on, i'll ask, so i can give you more specific information.

suho: i took a page from you and got planet locators for all my ships....my $/fuel went up substancially....thanx for that!

also, for those of you with an itchy trigger finger:
183499 #7 base [3200] ZYPREXA [WHY]
180440 #7 base [3200] TINMAN [HGI] (please don't use the OZN of FRA players for this one)
29531 - BREAK with 3577 figs [asleep]
26035 - PHONETICALLYPOET 100 figs
these next 3 are ones that i have homing devices on so i don't know how big they are...but am assuming they're small:
127675 - SPICEDNUTMEG
125351 - GOOD NIGHT
180356 - I STAND ALONE [BOB]


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lacuna, Q me, i see you on often and thanks for tinman's base # ...

Glad to hear it, Lacuna.

Has anyone noticed that we have company in our area (The Ozone Federation, that is)? Kirellii has joined the game late and is trying to establish a presence in our galaxy. Not someone I want to mess with, but she's got a level 1 starbase that lies along one of the routes to my starbase and bunker. I forgot to write down the coordinates, but I'm sure I'll run past it again tomorrow...

Yes, I know it would be easy to kill, but the last thing I want to do is piss people off right now. Should I just hope she doesn't bother me or should I go on the offensive? There's still six days left...

Suho1004: If you spot them online have a chat but I'd nail the starbase and leave a gaffiti beacon there explaining it was nothing personal.

And could someone kill I STAND ALONE as I'm pretty sure they are involved with the horde and were part of the attack on Bulldozer.

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well...i would assume that because it's Kirellii that it's probably just to make the game a lil more 'interesting'? i killed a few figs and such and they aren't well guarded or anything....

also, there can be no new teams or team member in the last quarter of the game....that comes from the captain's console.
so much for switching out teams members.....

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It looks like Lac and Suho have the strategy part figured out pretty well, so I'll just add what I have on each of my ships...
In my Freighter (140:5), I have (had, before someone blew it up) a planet scooper, a planet locator, a supercomputer, a tractor beam, and either a sector scanner or a nav module (whichever shows what's in the sectors next to you {fighters/black holes/trading posts}).
All my other ships are Liners (130:10), and have those 5, plus the sector scanner/nav module, and a stats device. Only one of my ships has any combat computers/shields, mainly because that's that much more weight I'm carrying around when trading, and if someone really wants to kill me, they will.

As for trading, just computrade until you find a depot without a planet, nudge it to the nearest sector with a planet, autoscoop, computrade, repeat. And Suho was right about not using the autoland/sellonly after autoscooping... I wrote that part in the FAQ in the first few days of the game and it works fine for clearing out a planet to make a bunker, but isn't too terribly efficient economically.

Bummer about not swapping teams in the last quarter of the game, haha. I guess that means we aren't the first to think of tryign that

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158106 Corvette: Tug Captain+9 USS SARATOGA of [UFP] with 0 fighter(s) [asleep]
159285 Corvette: Minion+0 MALFACTOR of [---] with 0 fighter(s) [asleep]

Also, if you want to get kinda picky, only nudge depots that are buying HW at at least $20 (ideal is $23-24)

[This message has been edited by Lord_Fukutoku (edited 03-31-2003).]

OK I killed this:

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Entering sector 17158...


(There is a starbase in this sector attached to KIRELLII [---])


[Enemy Starbase: 50]

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[edit: And:

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Entering sector 27788...


(There is a starbase in this sector attached to KIRELLII [---])


[Enemy Starbase: 50]

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I think we need to turn up the heat on anyone in our area ]

[edit2: and 10 fighters in 16478, 23056, 20501, 16101, 17025

and 30 of CRASH15 from 31624

All in a similar area of space]

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Sweet, Emps. Those were the ones I was talking about. I knew she had at least a couple level 1 starbases hanging around the area, and they were kind of getting on my nerves. But I don't fly around with my fighters, and I forgot to write down the locs.

I'm just a bit baffled why she would build a few level 1 starbases and then not upgrade them...

Suho1004: grous o 10 fighters suggest some kind of spying - pos. #1 starbases are designed as some kind of test or they just aren't very good. Being a paranoid loon I'm going with them being bait - the Horde are trying to stir up trouble between us an WHY and the may have someone out there so they can go crying to them about our killing their bases but who knows......

And some more:

10 fighters in 31509, 23998 and 21281.

#1 starbases in 30367, 23312, 26620 and 23580.

all the same player and all dead.

and some guy with 0 fighters in 27655 (just because).

26620 is one is immediately upstream from 22056 where one of my team is based and it is one of the ones immediately upstream from 17142 - its pos. they have been put next to or near or various bases as a test/bait.

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Well, the level 1 bases I spotted were Kirellii's, so that pretty much rules out the "not being so good" option. Bait it is then...

Is it getting hot in here or is it just me?

[Edit: Whoa... OZN is in second place now... the horde is in 4th, Lacuna is 5th, and GTD and FRA are 6th and 7th. The top three are very tight, though...]

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Suho1004: Yes I think the pattern can't be ignored but who knows?

Also I saw that too - things are pretty tight there and will probably change around every time someone logs on. As I was away this weekend I had 3 ships with lots of fuel and so the extra points got us up to second. If there are other OZN members out there then concentrate on trading and if you spot WHY, YEP or HGI (and BOB) ships or bases pass thm in and we'll take them out (ships are good because they can't convert fuel to points effciently). Remember if members of other teams approach you - team OZN isn't at war with anyone (it appears the Horde are trying to make us fight each other to the death so avoid that and suggest they hunt HGI and BOB and pass in any info).

Lacuna asked me to upload the transcript I saved of here conversation when the Horde and allies (BOB mainly) were attacking Bulldozer and although I have been slack in cleaning it up and uploading it you can now read her valiant efforts here and they include my moronic giving the game away

So as you can see I Stand Alone was knee deep in all that business and if LF doesn't want him I'll have him (and Tinman's starbase too if that is left tomorrow).

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Whoa... that was long... I'm still trying to figure out who everyone is in that conversation. I managed to figure out that an attack op went bad because the radio channel was compromised (never tried to use the radio, so I have no idea how that works...). But why Bulldozer? Isn't that Lord_F?

Sorry. Suho1004 dropped me a line for more explanation - as I've been following this one closely and dropping her occasional ideas and thoughts (I might even describe myself as her handler but somehow that doesn't sound right ).

Lacuna is Zeloutis as part of her team Laxgunners or something and the rest of the people are from the Horde (HGI) or BOB. They are talking about team GTD.

What had just happened was that Dan had pissed off just about everyone else in the game and the team were being hunted. Half of them had been ambushed and destroyed and they were hunting out the others (they thought we were veteran players and that Dan was a guy called Swat who appears to be some great mythical player). Bulldozer happened to be the next on the list as they had him tagged with a HD (see messages above or in the previous thread for more).

Basically they had Lacuna online and other eam members were dropping in and scrabbling fighters together to take Bulldozer out. This included an offer from I Stand Alone to get on the phone to the rest of the team.

So Lacuna had dropped me the private radio channel which is was monitoring but they got nervous and moved (I think) and then I gave things away and they moved again but Lacuna kept passing me the new number so I kept watching. I've also noted where one of my remaining ships, Icarus Falls, (which was providing some cover for Bulldozer) got one of theirs which made them awfully jumpy.

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OK, I get it now. So you were Icarus Falls... that's right. Yeah, that was pretty amusing...

"Swat is a certain player... a highly skilled player with years of experience"

hahaha.. respect me, punks! In less than one month (playing only every third day or so) I've earned years of experience.

People have years of experience playing this game?

ok....i'm sick....really sick...so i don't know how much i'll be on tomorrow (or today for some of you). i'll try to pop on a few times to check in... and emps...i'll Q you those locs in the morning.

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[This message has been edited by Lacuna (edited 04-01-2003).]

so how did he do this?
" Yummy ! Buying 10560 holds of hardware @ $24"

and how did they find bulldozer's loc so easily?

Lacuna: Sorry to hear about that. Get some rest--you getting better is more important than a silly game.

velvetrose: That quote was referring to what price a depot was buying hardware at (and how much), I believe. When you find depots like that, you nudge them into sectors with planets and then autoscoop them to make loads of money... yummy, indeed.

velvetrose: And they got Bulldozer's location from a homing device. I told him he was in trouble and he moved but then they I found out they had a HD on him and dropped a note in here (previous thread) and via ICQ to tell him to scrape it and move again but he didn't log back in in time. However, while flying past his location in an attempt to catch some of their ships I did kill a couple - not much compensation as Bulldozer was highly ranked at that time but.....

[edit: And I'm sorry to hear you are sick there Lacuna - don't kill yourself with those locations]

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Just a quick update - I have destroyed another 7 of the Horde's starbases and I killed I Stand Alone:

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You destroyed the enemy Starship!

You lost 3336 of your fighters
You killed 6355 enemy fighter(s)

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Due to rather unsubtle naming policies (#cough# Raptor #cough#) Iron Knight has rumbled the connections between team OZN and GTD which might cause us really problems as things wind down. Tey are still trying to cause a fight between us so don't even think of destorying any of team WHY or YEP's stuff

[edit: Oh and Raptor I've come visiting - we'll be in the spare room and promise to tidy up after us. As we are causing trouble I thought it best to abandon the galaxy we were in as it should buy us some time when the Horde come looking for us - we are also clean of HDs. If you do sell up and move a little advance warning might be appreciated ]

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Heh, this is getting kinda interesting, lol. Thanks for the transcript of that conversation I like that we're giving them this much trouble (after only playing for a few weeks)... Perhaps we should try this again (learning from our mistakes of course, haha, ie. finding a better galaxy, scraping HDs, trading, etc. etc.).

According to a certain someone the Horde have finished with all but the large members of team WHY and the OZN is next on the list. So we need to get trading and build up fighters and I think our other teams need to draw some fire off team OZN (they must have stretched themselves a little thin with team WHY and they can't really take on too many more teams. So scout around and if you see them pass on any information and we'll see what we can do. If the other members of team GTD would get their ships out of hospital and trade them up to strength then we could certainly use them too.

Any other thoughts, information, etc.?

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I had a feeling that was going to come back and bite us in the rear...

I've been gradually building up my forces... I'm up to 20k fighters guarding my lvl 20 bunker under my lvl 8 starbase. I figure when they come after me they will have to take out my starbase first, which will hopefully give me enough time to scurry elsewhere. Having the bunker, though, means that I pretty much have to stay in the galaxy we are currently in...

Actually, you can warp your planet (bunker and all) anywhere you choose. It's the starbase that your stuck with (you only get half your money back when you downgrade it).

However, what we might consider is leaving most of our starbases there (on auto-attack), downgrade a few, and move ourselves elsewhere (with your bunker if you have one) and stock up on fighters. I'll start on some stuff after class tonight.

If anyone finds out any locations of any of the Hordes ships, several names are mentioned in the transcript Emps posted, let us all know so we can try and shoot first with the ships we want, to try and save OZN.

[edit: BTW, at the time of this post,

quote:

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(This game began 22.680 day(s) ago and will close in 5.319 day(s).

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[This message has been edited by Lord_Fukutoku (edited 04-02-2003).]

LF: I like your thinking - we wouldn't even need to change to attack starbases we just reel in the fighters, drop a temp wormhole somewhere and all disappear.

However, I think if we find some more Horde ships and BOB ones we can cause them enough bother to really upset them. I have 10s of thousands of fighters in different teams which I can use to drop on any bunker but we need to find them

Update: This one just came in via ICQ: Using a location supplied by Lacuna Dan has just killed HGI members Tinman and Source of Cire (as well as Tinman's starbase ).

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Emps

FAQs: Emperor

Well, I just got back from class but my stuff is toast (everything). I've got an indy ship laying around, with plenty of fighters/fuel. Give me a few locs, and I can take a few stabs at HGI/YEP.

Also, googling for ozone, federation, sst sparks up a wildfire of everything here. Is that a good thing? Probably not.

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 20948 from I STAND ALONE on channel 0:
"Yo my muscle has been killed... me... by icerus falls"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 20952 from I STAND ALONE on channel 0:
"i dont htink anyone cares... *sniffle*"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 20961 from IRON KNIGHT on channel 0:
"Today has been a mighty victory for the Horde"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 20962 from IRON KNIGHT on channel 0:
"we have over come OZN in the rankings"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 20963 from HORDE'S MINION on channel 0:
" yes MY LORD Thou ARE Powerful... & Mighty!"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 20964 from IRON KNIGHT on channel 0:
"all of the folowers of the horde have united and this evil foe"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 20965 from DASBEVORMUNDEN1 on channel 0:
"geepers u guys sure are up there"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 20966 from IRON KNIGHT on channel 0:
"who it seems used untold Indies on a team we were in agreement with "

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 20967 from IRON KNIGHT on channel 0:
"has been repaid for thier attack on WHY"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 20968 from IRON KNIGHT on channel 0:
"the justice of the Horde is swift and mighty"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 20969 from IRON KNIGHT on channel 0:
"We will not tolerate attacks on our friends"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 20974 from MUTTER on channel 0:
"And the Horde believe they are honourable!!"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 20975 from MUTTER on channel 0:
"Using independent fighters to stir up war between 2 of its rivals"

despite that:
______________Team_Name________________ Abbrev. Rank Score (1000s)
Imperial Merchant Training Academy [YEP] 1 148909 K
The Horde's Grand Inquisition [HGI] 2 129404 K
The Ozone Federation [OZN] 3 127831 K
Laxtest [LAX] 4 119130 K
Why Not [WHY] 5 109806 K
Gotterdammerung [GTD] 6 84779 K
Fractal Genetics [FRA] 7 74867 K


[This message has been edited by velvetrose (edited 04-02-2003).]

That's another good point. I was always kind of uneasy about having all of this info in an open forum... not to mention the FAQ...

it's time, we need a separate board...

[edit] velvet posted it while i was typing LOL[/edit]

it seems that we're being blamed for the attack on the WHY team....which we all know we didn't do
but, neither did the horde....well...they did...but not with their own ships. It was actually quite well
orchrastrated LOL
i used my team to take a couple of ships out though...so, anyone who pays any attention will HAVE to know
that the horde had to have SOMETHING to do with it LOL
I'm trying my hardest to get OZN info outta them.....i'm going to talk to him tonight...so maybe he'll give some up.
i'm also going to try to come up with some sort of story to try to get a few HGI locs outta him as well.....i hate having to play the damsel in distress LOL
emps...if you could maybe talk to one of the WHY team....don't tell him what we know...but tell him that it DEFINATELY wasn't us who did that! and maybe see if you can get any locs from him on the horde. he plays in the higher game against Iron Knight...so watch what you say....i wouldn't want anything to bugger us NOW lol

ok...i think that about covers it.

on a funnier note....that IAA team that chudzta and I hit last week...well he was on today....whining. he wasn't very impressed at all. and he was trying really hard to build his stuff back up....and when the feeding frenzie started over the WHY ships, he got in on it....and he was sitting there in his ship and i found him.....so i blew him up! while he was in it!! LMAO he was REALLY not happy about that. i couldn't help it....i HAD to blow him up. it was really shitty...but i have to say it was one of the funniest things i've done on there! i'm sure i've got loads of bad karma coming my way LOL

added: also, i think that we should use the FRA and GTD teams to take out HGI and YEP. that way it draws the fire from those teams....and just keep OZN on the move... that's just my thoughts on it anyways.

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[This message has been edited by Lacuna (edited 04-02-2003).]

[This message has been edited by Lacuna (edited 04-02-2003).]

Yeah I saw that - the sneaky buggers attacked WHY with indies ships claimed it was us and have started toasting our asses. Booooo.

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FAQs: Emperor

The relevant parts of the attack:

quote:

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STAR OF VENGEANCE damaged your Starbase at 19833 (you earned 480000 reputation points)
STAR OF VENGEANCE damaged your Starbase at 19833 (you earned 240000 reputation points)
STAR OF VENGEANCE damaged your Starbase at 19833 (you earned 120000 reputation points)
STAR OF OSMODIA killed your Starbase at 19833 (you earned 120000 reputation points)
4000 fighters were killed in 19833 (you earned 800000 reputation points)

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[edit: and if someone has a starbase and a lot of fighters elsewhere then feel free to downgrade that one and fill that hole in our defenses.]

[edit2: Casualties:

MAGICAL_6X, (in hospital)
EVIL_OVERLORD, (in hospital)
RAPTOR5, (in hospital)

and I killed Star of Vengeance]

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FAQs: Emperor

Hi Kids. Nothing big today for me. Just building up fighters and taking out everything i see. Just a warning at 16808 IAA (BROWN WIDOW) had a starbase and a ship... i took out both. But it seems obvious they are gonna spend the rest of their days messing with the OZN. So keep an eye out and take a stroll thru the home galxy occasionally. _ry

editttttt : ASPHINX with 7342 fighters at 88188 as of night at Mar 31.

[This message has been edited by chudzta (edited 04-02-2003).]

More on that attack...

quote:

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APOPHIS THE DESTROYER attacked bunker in 22945
844 fighters were killed at bunker in 22945 (you earned 168800 reputation points)
APOPHIS THE DESTROYER destroyed bunker in 22945
APOPHIS THE DESTROYER destroyed your starship.
SOURCE OF CIRE attacked bunker in 22945
3199 fighters were killed at bunker in 22945 (you earned 639800 reputation points)
FEZZIK killed your Starbase at 22945 (you earned 960000 reputation points)
9141 fighters were killed in 22945 (you earned 1828200 reputation points)
859 fighters were killed in 22945 (you earned 171800 reputation points)
DREAD PIRATE ROBERTS attacked bunker in 22945
8690 fighters were killed at bunker in 22945 (you earned 1738000 reputation points)

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[edit: more...

quote:

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GOTT MIT UNS killed your Starbase at 30700 (you earned 480000 reputation points)
2000 fighters were killed in 30700 (you earned 400000 reputation points)

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[This message has been edited by Lord_Fukutoku (edited 04-02-2003).]

The end of a chat I had wih Iron Kniht and Malacite:

quote:

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\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21142 from BOMBARDMENT on channel 0:
"Iron Knight, you want a challenge? give me the location of your base"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21143 from IRON KNIGHT on channel 0:
"I must take my leave I will leave you with this question if not you than who?"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21144 from THANTOS on channel 0:
"I am wondering how you came to the conclusion Texas belonged to the OZN?"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21146 from THANTOS on channel 0:
"We both know that it was you Iron Knight."

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21149 from IRON KNIGHT on channel 0:
"He was speaking of it on the radio the other day he says Mings gonna ha"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21150 from THANTOS on channel 0:
"Your lies and evasions mean nothing - if winning is all you wish then take it"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21152 from IRON KNIGHT on channel 0:
"have us go after the top team"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21154 from IRON KNIGHT on channel 0:
"Fine, but we do know what happend here today..."

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21155 from THANTOS on channel 0:
"LOL - and if I was so devious and cunning why would we make such an error"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21156 from THANTOS on channel 0:
"And anyone with half a brain can spot this as a fit up."

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21157 from THANTOS on channel 0:
"We do know - you played a fine game of bluff and double bluff to eliminate"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21158 from THANTOS on channel 0:
"the 2 teams above you for which I applaud your cunning and audacity."

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21159 from THANTOS on channel 0:
"however, I am disappointed by this weak tissue of lies that you have made"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21161 from THANTOS on channel 0:
"which even an infant could see through."

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21162 from THANTOS on channel 0:
"It appears Iron Knight has left the building with any claim of honourable"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21164 from THANTOS on channel 0:
"conduct reduced to tatters."

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21168 from MALACITE on channel 0:
"THANTOS the horde calims all thier victorys why would now be any different?"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21169 from LARRSON on channel 0:
"thantos wanna fight"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21170 from MALACITE on channel 0:
"He is gone"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21171 from LARRSON on channel 0:
"thantos wanna fight"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21172 from THANTOS on channel 0:
"Mal: Yes I was just popping in to check the lights were out before bed"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21173 from THANTOS on channel 0:
"Larrson: I'm sure the Horde are up for some games "

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21174 from MALACITE on channel 0:
"Likely story another Indy I am sure"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21175 from LARRSON on channel 0:
"where can i find them"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21176 from THANTOS on channel 0:
"and why would they not claim it as their own? Because you are weak."

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21179 from MALACITE on channel 0:
"If the Horde was so weak then how is it that we've come this far?"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21180 from LARRSON on channel 0:
"the horde will not even answer my request"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21181 from MALACITE on channel 0:
"If WHY should belive your tale then let them come"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21182 from THANTOS on channel 0:
"had to engineer this farce."

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21183 from LARRSON on channel 0:
"38693 this is where any member of the horde will find me"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21184 from THANTOS on channel 0:
"WHY are welcome to believe what they like but it would be a shame that"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21185 from LUCKY_STARS on channel 0:
"hey knacker"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21186 from MALACITE on channel 0:
"Larrson I am a builder nothing more but I'm certian one of the Horde "

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21187 from MALACITE on channel 0:
"will be glad to accomidate you"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21188 from THANTOS on channel 0:
"if they were taken in by such weak arguements which actually tend to prove"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21189 from NUKEMALL2 on channel 0:
"lucky stars are you dan"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21190 from THANTOS on channel 0:
"our innocence."

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21193 from MALACITE on channel 0:
"you have shown only further guilt in my eyes"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21194 from THANTOS on channel 0:
"I will leave you to consider the stain on your honour..........."

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21196 from MALACITE on channel 0:
"And I you"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21197 from THANTOS on channel 0:
"Really?"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21198 from THANTOS on channel 0:
"Ahhhhh but we both know who is responsible - it is not really a matter for"

\/\/\__Incoming radio message 21199 from THANTOS on channel 0:
"any observers of this."

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The evidence is as weak as tissue paper and if that is all they can muster then it actually makes us look rather good (I'm Thantos, the Horde are Iron Knight and Malacite and other people are general loonies (including Dan?)).

Sorry about the long post

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FAQs: Emperor

And we have got back above the Horde already (and WHY are building themselves back too):

quote:

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______________Team_Name________________ Abbrev. Rank Score (1000s)
Imperial Merchant Training Academy [YEP] 1 148916 K
The Ozone Federation [OZN] 2 129494 K
The Horde's Grand Inquisition [HGI] 3 129441 K
Laxtest [LAX] 4 119145 K
Why Not [WHY] 5 109806 K
Gotterdammerung [GTD] 6 85098 K
Fractal Genetics [FRA] 7 74934 K

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FAQs: Emperor

Lucky Stars may be Dan.. but he's not *this* Dan...

All right, well I haven't had time like I thought I would to start packing my things, so it'll be Thursday before I get anything done... :/ Hopefully I'll still have a couple ships intact then...

Dan: Sorry I thought you were Bombardment.

LF: Pack your things?

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Emps

FAQs: Emperor

Does anyone have any loc's?

I am kindof angry about my ship being destroyed.


Me

I have about 40K worth of fighters on my MAG team, that are looking for revenge. I know that it might not be the 130K that LAX has but I am sure I could deal some amount of damage, just point me in the correct direction. That attack dropped me from 96th place down to 300 and something, knocking me way out of the top 15% which was not very nice.


Me

i was looking through the lists and discovered some captains with high level titles, but driving corvettes..???

JACOV DRESARI Tug Captain+1 [---] 730 Cor 750445 220001s
HULLSCRAPER Tactician+5 [---] 731 Cor 750445 140001s
SIR BRANDON Commodore+8 [---] 732 Cor 750445 160001s

there are more, but i am wondering if these are newbs, or vets lying low? if the latter, to what advantage? any ideas? or unimportant?

[edit- oh yeah, one more thing, i applied for FRA, but got no response, then the next day or so saw no one could add members



[This message has been edited by velvetrose (edited 04-02-2003).]

Thats because they were killed, and had to start over. (You don't lose all your levels when that happens, just 25%)

that explains why velvet went from merchant 1 to minion after 2 kills
i didn't build her up far enough after the first kill?

well....what an interesting day in space....

i'll start with the good news first....i hit the YEP team....and we're in FIRST PLACE!!!!!

______________Team_Name________________ Abbrev. Rank Score (1000s)
The Ozone Federation [OZN] 1 129145 K
The Horde's Grand Inquisition [HGI] 2 128802 K
Imperial Merchant Training Academy [YEP] 3 120831 K
Laxtest [LAX] 4 119641 K
Why Not [WHY] 5 109806 K
Gotterdammerung [GTD] 6 86657 K
Fractal Genetics [FRA] 7 78003 K

but, as you can see it's not by much, and if the horde has anything to say about it...it won't be for long either. they apparently know where we have a bunker...but wouldn't tell me. they said that they don't want me to do it because "i'm not ready"....i'm assuming this is because they think you guys are VETS LOL it's either that....or they are onto me LOL....either way...this really fucks me and us as a group.....

they introduced me to a higher up guy today......the mittens guy.....and he's a bit stand-offish with me....told me he was "checkin me out". i don't know what he is doing to check me out...i think the only way i can be truly found out is with the IP addy....but i don't think he could check those...but i could be wrong.....he did ask how i connected to the net and such though. i dunno....makes me nervous anyways
also....they think that PALE HORSE is our fearless leader!! and are really looking to take him down!!!

i really think we need to become a bit more mobile.....with all of our teams! any thoughts on this???

my lax team is down to 33k figs....and i just found another YEP person...so now i'm in third lol



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Cell 1007::SST

i'm saving my wrath for the horde

Well, the only thing I ran into today is another one of Kirellii's stupid level 1 starbases in 29580. I've also been scraping my hull regularly and my spies haven't seen anyone but friendly ships in my bunker sector... so I'm guessing (hoping?) it's not my bunker they're talking about. I don't really want to abandon my starbase, but if I've got to move I've got to move.

Haven't changed my strategy much... still trading, building up fighters (up to 21k), and generally trying not to piss anyone off. Apparently, though, just being on OZN is enough to piss off a lot of people...

[Edit: or maybe I should just downgrade the starbase and make as many fighters as I can, and then move my bunker... oh, I hate this...]

[Edit2: Hmm... salvaging will give me back 90%... oh, crap. I wish someone was around to give me some advice on this... I have no experience whatsoever in military stuff...]

[This message has been edited by Suho1004 (edited 04-02-2003).]

[This message has been edited by Suho1004 (edited 04-02-2003).]

Curious but it seems that switching my Starbase to attack mode was enough to earn me several thousand reputation points (although defeating an assailant or two seems to have helped).

So, I conclude from my experiment that building a reasonably sized starbase and leaving around 4,000 ships around it is a good idea?

Shame I can't remember which sector it's in... damit!
Now I'm lost-in-space.

Pssst...

here is the message from the yep leader:]
Subject: We are #1 in team ranks

and that is a very unhealthy place to be
I suggest everyone downgrades their starbases switch to stealth
and move around once or twice daily as we are almost guarantied to be hit
by some ships/teams wishing to advance their rankings
as we are non aggressive we shall not take the offensive however
any strikes against you from now on after you are free to retaliate and
you may aid your team members in such retaliation
however I must stress there may only be retaliation strikes hitting those ship
that hits you no other ships or starbases may be hit
if you believe someone who hit you to be hiding under another persons
starbase leave me a message and I will make the decision at that time
for now start practicing hide and evade tactics
and if we could get a total fig count for all ships that could be useful

then there was this:
sigh.. QUEENZ killed 10294 of your fighters (you earned 2059000 reputation points)
QUEENZ destroyed your starship.

hehe, back to the hospital

Dufty: You got the reputation points from the fighters you lost in the process of destroying the intruders. An attack-oriented starbase is a good way to do this, and it is also a good way to make sure that people will seek out and destroy your base as soon as they get word of it.

Now I have to go check and make sure I'm still alive...

[Edit: Yup, still alive. I guess having 21k fighters guarding a lvl 20 bunker under a lvl 8 starbase helps... but if a team really wants to kill me they will. I figure I can make 4k+ fighters from the money I would get from downgrading the starbase (if I'm calculating correctly, which I'm probably not). Just not sure if that's the best decision right now. I sure hope someone with the necessary savvy shows up and advises me before they find and kill me...]

[This message has been edited by Suho1004 (edited 04-02-2003).]

OK this is for team OZN we are cashing everything in and moving out.

Suho1004 will find us a location in the same galaxy and let us know we'll then cash everything in and move there, create a temporary wormhole to a new galaxy (preferably one that is a nightmare to scout) and we'll drop through and set up a base there.

Hopefully we should have so many fighters it will make things difficult for them to attack us and I have 100k in other teams if anyone spots the Horde. It seems they want Icarus Falls and so we might be able to draw some heat. more later....

[edit: Spoke to Sharund and the Star ships are run by the same person as is Tyranid Hive so keep an eye out for that]

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FAQs: Emperor

OK here is the plan. Start selling up unless you are imediately upstream of 17142 and we'll group there. I'll then pass around Suho's location and people can move out there and we'll downgrade everything else and move over.

[edit: and the upstream locations are: 25095, 22056, 20752, 17654, 29556, 19883 ]

[edit2: And ignore Kirelli they aren't part of the Horde just odd and a waste of fighters]

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FAQs: Emperor

Make sure your hulls are scraped before you start moving.


Me

And make yourself stealth - although you can be seen if someone stumbles in on you when you are logged off the important thing is that scouts (the only effective way they can search for you) cannot see you if you are logged out. This also means that sticking around a planet with a bunker on draws more attention to us so we can't hide with any of you with bunkers.

Any suggestions for a bolthole? I'm thinking a dead end in some galaxy so there is no traffic through and we can clear out the adjacent areas

[edit: Oooooooo and this happened:

quote:

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***** Your access level increased. New options may be available. *****

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]

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FAQs: Emperor

OK lacuna has given me a list of dead ends bolt holes - I've picked one at random drop me a line via ICQ (just in case) but people with bunkers or non-stealth ships will have to go elsewhere or they will draw attention to us and as WarMage has said - 'Get scraped'!!!

I'll scout that venue and then we can get temporary wormhole going to drop us into that galaxy.

[edit: I'd also recommend people leave 17142 as it is being attacked I believe]

[edit2: If Chudzta, Tikigod and Octal9 don't move then they'll not last long]

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FAQs: Emperor

for those of you with non-stealth ships....i have loads of dead end places....Q me an i'll give them to ya

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Cell 1007::SST

And LF unless you move it you'll loose it:

27547 Planet DUMPTRUCK level 20 bunker.....12k figs

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Emps

FAQs: Emperor

OK, I'm still alive, but apparently no one is around to tell me where to go.

And the horde has retaken first place...

Suho1004: I'll tell you where to go

We have picked a site to go to but taking bunkers and non-stealth ships isn't an option as it will make us more of a target but you can hole up nearby as Lacuna says she has lots of locations (drop her a line via ICQ).

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FAQs: Emperor

And we need to discuss what we are going to do at the end of the game - Iron Knight as already talking about self-destructing but I think it might be interesting to move Team OZN through to the other game. Thoughts?

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FAQs: Emperor

Ha! I am now safely ensconced in my new location, where none of you will ever find me! Muhwahwahwahwahwa!

Oh, wrong audience, sorry.

Anyway, I think we should go through to the next game, just to give it a shot. And I don't like the idea of self-destructing.

Ahhhhhhhhh well I just got my ass kicked :

Thantos:

quote:

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STARBASE DESTROYER killed 16 of your fighters (you earned 3400 reputation points)
STARBASE DESTROYER destroyed your starship.

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Emperor_Ming:

quote:

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STARBASE DESTROYER killed 3841 of your fighters (you earned 768200 reputation points)

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Obsidian:

quote:

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17774 fighters were killed in 20752 (you earned 3554800 reputation points)
STARBASE DESTROYER killed 64 of your fighters (you earned 13000 reputation points)
STARBASE DESTROYER destroyed your starship.
SCHOONER killed your Starbase at 20752 (you earned 960000 reputation points)
226 fighters were killed in 20752 (you earned 45200 reputation points)

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FAQs: Emperor

Well that certainly blows....

Suho1004: The Master of Understatement.

I made a number of poor tactical decisions and that one proved pretty fatal

But I have cleared up some more of my shitlist:

quote:

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212225 Liner: Hunter+0 MAGICMAN of [---] with 7861 fighter(s) [asleep]

Attack MAGICMAN? No Yes [N]

(You have 10825 fighter(s))
Attack with how many? [10825]

You destroyed the enemy Starship!

You lost 4126 of your fighters
You killed 7861 enemy fighter(s)

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Sorry WarMage I did warn you that I'd get that ship if I found you

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Emps

FAQs: Emperor

Hey, shit happens


Me

Dumptruck:

quote:

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MALACITE attacked bunker in 27547
6620 fighters were killed at bunker in 27547 (you earned 1324000 reputation points)
HAAKAA PAALE attacked bunker in 27547
3369 fighters were killed at bunker in 27547 (you earned 673800 reputation points)
GOTT MIT UNS attacked bunker in 27547
3017 fighters were killed at bunker in 27547 (you earned 603400 reputation points)

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Still alive somehow

WM:

LF: Good to hear it - they are awfully low on fighters (they couldn't quite finsih off my third ship) so I suppose they had to leave it. And HAAKAA PAALE is a new name on me - I'll add it to my list but I am having trouble tracking any of them down. Dan got a couple of minor ones (it seems Tinman, which was one, was one of Iron Knight's other ships) and their allies have got a hammering - I've killed a number of team BOB and Lacuna's team has been devastated by YEP in response to her kicking their ass for the Horde.

Time for a new thread possibly? Someone start one and I'll shut this.

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Emps

FAQs: Emperor

Here we go... http://www.ozoneasylum.com/Forum1/HTML/007032.html

[LF: Cheers - I'll shut this down]

[This message has been edited by Emperor (edited 04-04-2003).]