Preserved Topic: Can we just do this real quick? (Page 2 of 3)

That was quick...

I have a bad English, I admit. But, as long as people understand me, then there should be no communication problem.

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Since you asked:

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I got exams in june

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I have exams in June. . .

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I think i'll fix the contentious one's.

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You might fix ones while you're at it.

I'm not picking on you, I swear.

Although I'm not a native, I'll try to answer your question based on what the books say: according to pages 58-59 of English Grammar in Use, by Raymond Murphy, there is no difference, in meaning, between "may" and "might". They can be used interchangeably in expressions like "It may be true" or "It might be true", or "You may/might have been asleep", etc.

On pages 60-61, the authour explains some situations where you must use might instead of may, like "when the situation is not real"

This is an interesting book. You may want to buy it. Or, you might want to buy it.

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Live and real conversations/texts found in the Internet are not good sources of education for language, many times. For instance: suppose you don't know which way to use: "I enjoy dancing" or "I enjoy to dance" and then you use Google to find out. Well, you can find dozens of samples of text using both ways but only one of them is the right way. I don't trust Google, many times (by Google, understand Internet), but I always trust a good English grammar book.

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Wow...that google reference just came out of left field

OK InI...corrections:

your one:

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This place contains good linguists, and I am talking about THIS THREAD specifically,
I don't rely on google to help me pass my exams, I rely on my personal knowledge and mind,
but since I spend part of my time here surrounded by english natives with a good grammar/vocabulary,
DO YOU REALLY HAVE TO SUE ME FOR ASKING THOSE TO CORRECT ME WHEN I NEED IT? Dammit.

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This place contains good linguists, and I am talking about THIS THREAD specifically.
I don't rely on google to help me pass my exams, I rely on my personal knowledge and mind,
but since I spend part of my time here, surrounded by english natives with a good grammar/vocabulary,
DO YOU REALLY HAVE TO SUE ME FOR ASKING THEM TO CORRECT ME WHEN I NEED IT? Dammit.

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[This message has been edited by Skaarjj (edited 02-05-2004).]

Was I suing you?
I'm from Brazil, not the USA, and in my country we don't use lawyers as in here. We don't sue people for nothing. We don't have this "crazy suing culture".
I was just trying to help. If I didn't succeed, on contraire, if you felt "sued", too bad.

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Again, why would I want to patronize you?
I barely know you.
You probably are a typical teenager, for you act like so.

those/them - it's a matter of context.

"Them" is generally used to refer to something already mentioned -

I bought some pears at the market this morning, and put them in the refrigerator.

I went to the market this morning, and bought those pears that are in the refigerator.

Make sense?

To further exoand - in your sentence, if we worded it differently, you would have a choice between "them" and "these", and if we worded it more complexely, "those"
For instance, it could be worded -

". . .for asking these native english speakers to correct me when I need it?"

or ". . .for asking those members who are native english speakers to correct me when I need it?"

etc.

Also, I think Viol is simply trying to make the point that - helpful as this thread can be - there is no substitute for a good official reference book, and the internet in general is loaded with grammatical attrocities.



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Agreed, but does he have to insult me?

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I'm sad I don't have time to tell you how much of a cunt you are.

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Ini, first, I'm not upset. One has to be really good to be able to upset me in an electronic chat/board and you are not that good.

Secondly, if you felt insulted by my words, you have a problem. Unfortunately, there is no easy cure for your problem other than aging well.

Thirdly, don't be sad because of me. You're wasting your tears.

wes: well spotted. that one was just for you.

You missed the other mistake, however.



reitsma

I've got it:

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its always interesting

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should be:

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it's always interesting

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that, and the lower-case i in the word i'll, which should be an upper-case I

I would venture a guess that using "cunt" on your english exam would not be a good idea . . .

wow, they're, their, and there really gets people upset!

Is it google or Google? I think it's Google.

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This place contains good linguists, and I am talking about THIS THREAD specifically.
I don't rely on google to help me pass my exams, I rely on my personal knowledge and mind,
but since I spend part of my time here, surrounded by english natives with a good grammar/vocabulary,
DO YOU REALLY HAVE TO SUE ME FOR ASKING THEM TO CORRECT ME WHEN I NEED IT? Dammit.

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:::tao:::

IMO, it's Google, the search engine.
But now google is also a verb, in which case it's usually google.
Cantankerous Ini meant obviously Google, the search engine.

Oh, I just realized.
It's not english, it's English.

Thank you for picking that one up Tao...I missed that mis-capitalisation. The only way I can see Google being written without a capital G is when it is being written as a verb. I will google it, I am googling it and I googled it are three examples in the three tenses; past, present and future repectivley

[This message has been edited by Skaarjj (edited 02-06-2004).]

viol: that should be "Cantankerous InI obviously meant Google"

Isn't correction fun.

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Skaarrjj

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I will google it, I am googling it, and I googled it are three examples in the three tenses; past, present and future repectivley

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That would be future, presesnt and past, respectively..




[This message has been edited by docilebob (edited 02-06-2004).]

It's Latin, not latin; English, not english; Brazilian, not brazilian; French, not french, so forth and so on. For some odd reason, all these nouns and adjectives derived from names of countries are always capitalized in English. I say odd because it's not like this in my native language, Portuguese. We do not capitalize these words, unless they are the first one in the sentence.

And grammatically speaking, I strongly believe that "meant obviously" or "obviously meant" are both correct. They are just different "literary styles" in which you may want to emphasize one or the other word.

One thing that really gets on my nerves is the lack of a comma when directly addressing someone.


[This message has been edited by warjournal (edited 02-06-2004).]

Thanks, db, I screwed the pooch on that one, eh?

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You mean, vitriol?
I didn't know that.

It's taught InI...not thaught

Oh, and for "meant obviously" to be correct it would have to be "meant, obviously, "

Agreed.

BTW, an odd use of comma for me is right before an "and", like: The national colors of USA are white, blue, and red.

This makes absolutely no sense in my native language because since white, red and blue are all part of the same list, we should NEVER use a comma before the "and". But I noticed that in English this is the standard.

As cores dos EUA são branco, azul e vermelho.

See, no comma before the "and" ("e"). It looks much nicer.


[This message has been edited by viol (edited 02-06-2004).]

I wonder how Ini managed to learn more about bad words in English than right words...

I believe some people start learning the four-letter words first, because they believe these are the most important words when communicating.

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Just for the record, the title of this thread, "Can we just do this real quick?", is incorrect.
'Quick' (or the word that should be in its place) is an adverb, describing how it is we are about to 'do this'. The adverb form of the root 'quick' is 'quickly'.

The topic title should read "Can we just do this quickly?"