Preserved Topic: modem with Redhat

Hello guys,

I installed Redhat Linux 9. It did not recognize my modem. It says no modem found. The name of my modem is PCTEL Platinum V. 90 modem. I tryed searching for drivers. I kept on running into tar.gz files. I do not know how to use the tar.gz files. The only files i know how to use just a little is zip file, Winrar, installer packets. How can i get my modem to recognize in Redhat? Do i need drivers? Can someone help me by getting my modem up and running with Redhat? Please reply back as soon as possible. It would be better if someone can reply back at the earliest of today. Thanks.

Derek Santamassino

tar.gz files are easy to handle in Linux, and if you want to keep using Linux you'll have to get comfortable with them. Almost all source code for Linux programs are released in that package. The way to extract them is to use the tar command. The syntax for that command is like this:

tar -zxvf <filename>

explanation:
z -> the ending .gz tells that the archive is 'zipped' using a program called gzip, the z in the syntax tells tar to 'unzip' the archive using gunzip before doing anything else with it
x -> extract
v -> verbose. Not really needed, but it is nice to know about...
f -> tells the program that the word following this is the filename


Not sure about the modem though, couldn't find anything usefull on the RedHat page and I couldn't find any product page for it either...



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How do i get access to the tar.gz file from Linux? I have a modem driver and i'm not sure will it work. It's called PCTEL-0.9.6 tar.gz. I'm going to give you the instructions. Can you please help in the easiest way? So let's say. What would i click on first when i boot up Linux 9? The easiest.

This package contains the PCTEL driver for various PCTEL modems for linux.
It is meant for kernel 2.4.x, up to 2.4.18 so far.

Installation
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0) Unpack the tarball by typing "tar zxvf pctel-0.9.6.tar.gz"

1) Go into that directory by typing "cd pctel-0.9.6"

2) Find out what chipset you have in your board:

3) ./configure
Options:

--with-hal=hal
Select one of: pct789, cm8738, i8xx, sis, via686a

--with-kernel-includes=/path/to/my/kernel-sources/include
If you don't have your kernel sources at /usr/src/linux, specifiy
your includes

4) Compile the modules by typing "make"

5) If everything went fine, get root by typing "su"

7) Install the drivers by typing "make install"

8) You are now ready to use your modules.
Type "insmod pctel" and "insmod ptserial".

You should see in your logs ("tail /var/log/messages") something like:
May 16 23:28:17 suba kernel: PCTel initialization. Country code is 2.
May 16 23:28:17 suba kernel: PCTel device[00:11.0](0x88) found "PCTel Inc HSP MicroModem 56 (rev 01)" IOBASE 0xe800 IRQ 9.
May 16 23:28:17 suba kernel: PCTel driver version 0.9.6 [5.05c-4.27.215 (09-14-2001)]] (PCT789) (2001-08-18) with MANY_PORTS SHARE_IRQ SERIAL_PCI enabled.
May 16 23:28:17 suba kernel: PCTel driver built on [Linux 2.4.8 i686 unknown] with [2.95.3].
May 16 23:28:17 suba kernel: ttyS15 at 0xe800 (irq = 9) is a PCtel

Notes:
You can always uninstall the modules by typing "make uninstall". If you
need to recompile the modules, "make clean" and "make" are your friends.

Questions, Infos, Support
-------------------------
see README

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Jan Stifter, 2002-03-04
j.stifter@[no-spam]medres.ch http://www.medres.ch/~jstifter/pctel/

2001-08-05: Updated for Linux 2.4.7.
- Daniel Caujolle-Bert <segfault@club-internet.fr>

2001-08-08: Some bugs fixes/cleanups.
- Daniel Caujolle-Bert <segfault@club-internet.fr>

2001-10-29: some fixes/cleanups.
- JS

Derek Santamassino

You posted this thread three times.

sorry... I meant to hit the post reply and i hit the new post. Can you delete out the other 2? not this one.

Derek Santamassino

Already done.

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Can someone help me with these instructions? Thanks.

Derek Santamassino

ugh... you have a winmodem- sucks to be you....

...that's ok, it sucked to be me, too... but I got it working...

your first step is right here- Linmodems.org

you're going to need to find out as much as you can about your modem, but this site guides you thru all that..

(I suggest googling your modem type- something like "Conexant Roxwell MX3I80 Supa'modem RedHat 9.0 problem")

Some winmodems just plain don't have any support. Period. The linmodems site will tll you about those.

I had to download about 15 million patches and junk (I believe my winning solution was something called a 'kernel wrapper'), but eventually I got it working..

Good Luck!

<:EDIT:>
oh! I almost forgot, there are a bunch of HOWTOs on the subject... try here:
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/hardware.html#HWMODEMS


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[This message has been edited by Petskull (edited 05-22-2003).]

I burned the pctel driver to a CD. Can i work with the driver off of the CD or do i have to have the driver on my hard drive?

Derek Santamassino

You'll have to copy the tar.gz file to your harddisk and extract the contents there. Among the files in it there should be a readme file of some sort with instructions on how to install it.

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Out of all that. There is one big problem. This is what i typed. tar -xzvf pctel-0.9.6.tar.gz. There is no such file. It looks like i will never going to get a driver for my modem that will work with Redhat. Maybe someone can come up with something that will get my modem up and running.

Derek Santamassino

Derek - You're probably getting the file not found error because you aren't in the right folder. Your options are to either move over to the correct folder or use the full path in your tar command. Of course for a beginner, I'd typically recommend you use the GUI.

To move to the correct folder simply type cd /username/home/folder using the correct path.

As for the full path, you should be typing something similar to tar -xzvf /username/home/folder/pctel-0.9.6.tar.gz


I hope that helps you. If I wasn't in a rush to go out I'd look up drivers for you. I'll see what I can do when I get back.


Jestah

Jestah- I do not see nothing in the Terminal to move over to the correct folder. cd/username/home/folder. file not found error. tar -xzvf/username/home/folder/pctel-0.9.6.tar.gz. File not found error. How do i use the GUI? Where is the GUI located at? This is killing me that i can't use a modem in Redhat. I'm trying to see will these drivers work. I was using the Terminal under System tools.

Derek Santamassino

what does -v do with tar anyway?


Thanks
Trigger

without looking in the manual,
-v would probably be 'verbose'.


dsantamassino12, you'll need to calm down a bit.
You found a driver, now all you need is to install it.
-put the cd into your drive.
-mount it within redhat, if it does not have 'automounting'
(see man mount for details)
-copy that tar.gz file to your hard disk with cp. like 'cp /mnt/cdrom/xxx.tar.gz /tmp'
type in 'cd /tmp' (that space might be important).
-type in the above tar command.
-switch into the newly created folder by doing 'cd newFolder' (the one it said in the installation file. don't put a / between cd and the folder this time)
-type in './configure'
-follow the rest of the instructions.

so long,

Tyberius Prime

I still don't understand how to do this. I refuse to calm down until i get my modem working with Redhat. I'm so lost and confused right now.

Derek Santamassino

The -v in the tar command is verbose, the other things in the command are also explained in my first post in this thread...

dsantamassino12: how far down have you gotten in TP's 'tutorial'?

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I don't thing i read the TP tutorial. Where can i find it??

Derek Santamassino

I was talking about what he posted above. Didn't know what to call it so I called it a 'tutorial', sorry if it confused you...

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Look up about 3 posts.

I have a winmodem too. Bad thing is, they don't have a driver that will work with it. Best thing that I have came up with is to just get an external modem.

Later,

C:\


~Binary is best~

Petskull said that he got his winmodem to work. This is what i typed in. cp /mnt/cdrom/xxx.tar.gz/tmp

This is the message i got when i typed it in. cp: missing destination file. Why did i get a missing file? What kind of file is that?

Derek Santamassino

~sigh~

Here is some help:

1) Deinstall redhat.
2) Reinstal windows.
3) Connect to the internet. Read as much as you can about linux.
4) Go to the best local bookshop in town buy some linux books.
5) Start reading.
6) Redo step 4 to 6 until you understand linux-basics, installing tarballs, what compiling means, what man-pages and howto's are.

Clearly you lack some basic linux skills, since you did not understand the answers people gave you.
If you want to play with linux try :
-Knoppix -> running linux from cd (very cool)
-Red-Hat also has a version which runs from cd but i keep forgetting the link....
In the :FAQ: : Linux you find some good info (just follow the links).

And you might want this: Linux Installation and Getting Started

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[This message has been edited by Rinswind 2th (edited 05-24-2003).]

dsantamassino12 - By GUI I mean the graphic user interface. While the command line might be the preferred way by the more experienced user, using your mouse to point and click is just as effective in this case. What you're going to do is load the CD into the drive. I assume RedHat will automatically mount your drive and open your folder. Simply click the file, PCTEL-0.9.6 tar.gz. It's been a while since I've used RedHat's GUI to untar a file, but I believe you'll be greeted with a little GUI where you can specify where you want to extract the files to.

With the files extracted to the correct folder, simply open up a terminal and move over to the folder. While in the correct folder, type "./configure" . Then follow the rest of the directions.

If you have any more questions feel free to ask.

Also, theres IMO a fantastic tutorial for Linux @ http://linuxcommand.org/ and while we're more then happy to help with a question, you might find better and faster answers at http://www/justlinux.com

Jestah

Jestah: ./configure is no such file. It doesn't matter what i type in. I'm always going to get no such file. I extract it to the home directory. I went into Terminal and then i type in ./configure. I got no such file. Why am i getting this message every time i try to type something in?? I don't get why i'm getting this message. The only thing i can think of is Terminal is screwed up.

Derek Santamassino

because you are only working in one directory. The file needs to be in the directory you are in. the terminal isn't broken your knowlege of linux is.

type "pwd" at the prompt and tell us what it says.

then type "ls" and tell us what that says.



.:[ Never resist a perfect moment ]:.

we *know* the terminal has no 'copy'

try just *telling* us what the terminal says....

or 'save the output' and copy and paste just the pertinent parts... please don't post a mile-long copy 'n paste of everything you've ever typed

Don't give up! It took me a long time to get the modem working, but it's not impossible..

... I've actually got redhat running on a Compaq laptop.... which has to be the most uncooperative hardware on the planet..


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This is what it said.

bash: ./configure: No such file or directory. That's it. I just told you what it said.

Derek Santamassino

bit said:

quote:

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type "pwd" at the prompt and tell us what it says.

then type "ls" and tell us what that says.

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...that's what I was referring to.

quote:

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the terminal isn't broken your knowlege of linux is.

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this seems to be the case.... read everything you can get your hands on... search google for more... spend a lot of time on http://www.linuxquestions.org/ ... these seem to be nothing more than IDtenT errors..

... it you didn't get that, you've got *a lot* of reading to do...

Knowledge speaks, Wisdom listens --remember that..



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[This message has been edited by Petskull (edited 05-24-2003).]

ok this is what it said. pwd: /home/dsanta. ls: Derek pctel-0.9.6.

Derek Santamassino

then type: tar -xzvf ./pctel-0.9.6.
the "./" means "this directory I'm in right now"

then type cd pctel-0.9.6.

THEN type "./configure"...

...after that you're gonna hafta type 'make install' and maybe some other shit, just try this for now and try to follow any onscreen instructions...

...there should've been some instructions or a README file, did you read them?


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I have to praise you for the balls to jump right into the linux world.

The problem is, if you want to do anything other than run a basic redhat install you will have to have a smidgen of computer knowledge, and an ability to search.

1) Read the fucking directions. The files named "README" are probabally a good start.
2) Anything that says "Newbie Guide" or anything that gives the hint that it might be a "Newbie Guide" should be read, immediately.
3) Read the fucking directions again. Make sure you understand them.
4) Experiement. If you are so new you don't know how to change directories you might be in for some big big problems. If you then have trouble type ./confirue && make && make install you are really in for a tough time, because after you type that make in 25% of the time you are going to run smack into a wall (a.k.a. Error Code 1) which means it won't work and then you are going to have to debug.
5) Subscribe to the system news groups, and make sure to seach google groups first, ask questions after. If you have not spent at least 4 hour searching for the problem in existing literature that is available on the net, please do not ask someone else. Any problem you are having with linux has probabally shown up before and has been turoughly explained.

Start off by going to google and typing "beginner linux guide" without the quotes. When you find something interesting read it, if you don't want to read, then I highly recommend that you immediately stop using linux, revert back to microsoft products, and don't think about it again. If you want something for free you have to put in some work somewhere.


Me

don't let that discourage you! Shifting to linux is a big step that is to be applauded...

.... and like all big steps- you're gonna hafta read a book on it at some point...

Linux rocks... poke around until you break something- then re-install...


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Petskull- I just bought a book a couple of weeks ago called Linux for Dummies. I don't think i have enough money to buy another book right now. Do you have any beginner guides? Listen to this one. I typed in cp and the error message i got was cp: missing file arguments. So, can you help me out with some tutorials?

Derek Santamassino

well, cp copies files!
Nothing is going to happen if you say just 'cp'.
You have to tell it what to copy where, of course!

Google is your friend.
You'll find a ton of linux tutorials by clicking that link.
The very first one seems pretty informative, although, if you got your own box, You won't need to do any of the first lesson, since you won't be using telnet,
but the keyboard and screen attached to the box itself.

so long,

Tyberius Prime

I had everything going good and then someone told me that i probably don't have my kernel source installed. Is my kernel source already on Redhat and i only have to install it? or do i have to download it? Can someone help me with the kernel source? This is what i typed at the terminal.

su -
enter your password for the root.
mkdir /work
cp /mnt/cdrom/pctel-0.9.6.tar.gz /work
cd /work
tar zxvf pctel-0.9.6.tar.gz
cd pctel-0.9.6

and then i went ./configure --with-hal=pct789

I either have to configure my kernel or i have to install it. Please reply back. Thanks.

Derek Santamassino

most probably, your linux kernel hasn't been installed on that computer..

did you remember to back it up before erasing WindowsXP?


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I have a dual boot with Windows XP and Redhat Linux. As fas i know i got an error when i did ./configure --with-hal=pct789. It said that i need to configure my kernel. Please reply.

Derek Santamassino

If my kernel is not installed on Redhat Linux 9 or if it is not configure. How do i install the kernel or how do i configure the kernel? Please reply back as soon as possible. Thank You.

Derek Santamassino

If you are not good with linux do not recompile the kernel.
Stay away don't touch it. Just don't.
This is extremly dangerous.
But if you still want to mess with it read the faq first.
:FAQ::Linux Help


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I'm already getting help from http://www.linuxquestions.org. When someone replys back. I'm going to try to reconfigure my kernel.

Derek Santamassino

woo,i see