Preserved Topic: P O W E R OUT

So time for a head count I'd think.

Who's out there in the east and 'on' the east coast of america to give us a reasonable and valid view of what's going on.... and how you are making out?



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Nope, just watching with a mix of interest and concern from California. My guess is that the East Coast got jealous of all the national attention Calfornia's getting from the Recall.



Evil in theory, not so much in practice...

Ok here, thank god for nuke power plants and the northern grid.

J. Stuart J.

Bah...Noo-cleur Power.

We've got Hydroelectic power here in the Pacific Northwest. They have to "shut down" the rivers to bring that down. Or just cut some power lines...

hehee, cfb. That`s what New York thought about Niagra Falls.

*raises hand* Sir? Could you please tell me WTF you're talking about?

skaarj - try checking the news

I'm a couple hours north of NYC, and everything is just fine here.

One more reason I'm glad I don't live in the city =)

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So you're asking the people who have no electricty to hop on their computers and give you an update?

according to the news, the power is out in the northeast from new york to cleveland, lansing (mich), detroit, accross the border to windsor in canada over to toronto and ottowa, but not quebec, which is on another grid...

dl, you are lucky you have power as it's out in albany, syracuse and hartford

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One more reason I'm glad I don't live in the city =)

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Ya ... no kidding. My 10k community 45 minutes later increases to approx. 250-300k.The differences are amazing.

Just recalling a couple of situations here... 9-11... more than a few bad storms.. when the nurse was very ill... the house that doc built became a gathering place of the curious and 'affected.' VEry informative 'lurking' kept us all informed.

So far no problem here in Cambridge, MA. I had no idea that there is an energy problem going on in US.

Yeah, Massachusetts is fine.

I didn't know anyone here was from cambridge, Viol.

Lansing? We are a bit south of Lansing. Earlier today the power did go out for around 10 seconds, but we're fine. Looks like we got lucky in my neck of the woods.

Yeah, watching the news a bit. New York (Manhattan?) is nuts. They are talking about power coming back in some of the southern suburbs of Cleveland. I can't imagine if the power outage continues into the night in the bigger cities.

just announced: the canadian prime minister announced it was lightning that caused teh problem at the power power plant on the canadian side of niagra falls


LOL, shortly after that one of his aides said that was wrong!


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Yikes!
Bad news indeed. It's in the front page of all Brazilian electronic news.

Slime: I am not from Cambridge but I am living here for a while. This is a very lovely place. We (my wife, my daughters and myself) love it here. Too bad we'll have to go back to Brazil in Jun/04... We are living in Memorial Drive, Charles River is my neighbor, the view is beautiful, be it summer, winter, autumn or spring. I guess I will never live again in such a beautiful place. And the proximity to Boston makes it even better.

I know people were worried about I can report everything is fine over here in the UK. I have some candles ready just in case.

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CFB - just a s a side note: the type of power generator is almost irrelevent in most of these cases.
It's the power grid that the energy is fed into that tends to casue the problems.

You'll note that some of the areas effected draw their power from hydroelectric sources

Wes - what are you, living in the dark ages? Where's your laptop with a wireless modem and spare battery packs???

Ann Arbor, MI has NO power. The campus is running on backup generators though.

What a time for the power to go out. I was in the middle of my calc3 final

yeah - suburbs south of Boston are okay too.

What a mess in NYC. Oh my gosh - pulling people out of marooned subway cars ... the stuff of nightmares. And it's HOT in the northeast. I feel for those folk in apartment towers with no light, no A.C. and - gasp - no T.V.

It's got to be brutal. I'm pretty sure it happened before the stock exchange closed. Hoo boy - hope THEY had some backup!

^ they have there own generators, and backup that is blocks away and underground from what I understand.

They'll be just fine

I'm about 30 minutes south of NYC and we are in one of the luckier parts of Jersey. My power went out just long enough to reboot my computers and make all my clocks flash 12:00. Other than that there's no problems here. We do have some family about an hour north of here that's out of power though.

-Butcher-

Ah well Here in Reading, PA we're ok, no power out here....



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Man what a test of just about everything related to emergency and essential services.
A lot of people seem to be right on the edge but hangin'in there. Overnite will tell the tale i guess.

The windsor-detroit border crossing ground to a halt. The economic whack from that alone is huge. 10k trucks & 1 Billion dollars trade a day.

Will be interesting to see what comes out of all this. dubbya is already talking about a massisve upgrading of the powergrid. That came after hilory got a goood headstart at bashing the administration...and a foromer wig in the u-s energy industry described the u-s as 'superpower with a 3rd world grid.'

It's going to take days for everything to get back to normal and it all comes on day one of a heat wave.

Can you imagine the havoc if the infrastructure was actually damaged.

Emps, does this count as brownie points for the US reducing its overall energy consumption?

But seriously, what a massive outage. I thought they were supposed to restructure the grid so these cascading outages wouldn't happen anymore. It will be very interesting to see if any heads roll for this. I'm also wondering whether or not there may have been a terrorist element to this that the government is not willing to reveal at this time. Anyone heard anything about the actual cause of this that's been verified yet?

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Some jackass anchor on CNN actually started to suggest that the Windows worm going around may have had something to do with this.

(Paraphrased.) "... This is what everyone had feared from Y2K a short time ago, which didn't happen, of course. And this just on the heels of the computer worm making its way around. We have no word that it has anything to do with this, but we are, of course, still getting information in ..."

Idiot.

We got hit at around 4:15 yesterday here in Ontario. Power came back sometime during the night here.

We were instructed to treat every intersection as a 4-Way stop, mind you traffic was a mess at Rush Hour but it was moving.
Not to call any Emergency Service unless absolutely necessary.

Unplug and turn everything off in case of a power surge when the power would come back on.

Interesting observations:

without cash - you were dead in the water !!
Cellphones were jammed because of the increased traffic.
the only phones that worked were the old-fashioned rotary and early push button ones.

General view by many people here is that is was Sabotage - who knows at this point.

People did have a hard time dealing with the heat, it was around 30C yesterday and with the humidity it felt like an oven at times.

It will be very interesting to find out the what and why.

sib

Weeeeeeeeeee

I survived the biggest blackout in recorded history and all I got for it was this t-shirt.

Jestah

Bugs:

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Emps, does this count as brownie points for the US reducing its overall energy consumption?

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It is nice to see everyone doing their bit

Of course you Californians are the ones really doing their best and the rest of the US is only really catching up on your power problems

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I heard on the radio today that everyone is looking for the baby boom in may of 2005. Everyone stuck at home, nothing to do but make love to the sound of your battery operated emergency radio in a 110 degree apartment.

Um... Yeah... That's EXACTLY what I'd be doing.

GD:

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I heard on the radio today that everyone is looking for the baby boom in may of 2005.

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What is the current gestation period of an American these days?

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Gestation of Americans? Normally 9 months, but on a leap year it is greatly extended.

Has anybody heard about the folks trapped on the rides at Cedar Point? I'm curious if they got them out.

wj:

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Gestation of Americans? Normally 9 months, but on a leap year it is greatly extended.

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Coooooooo - 21 months seems excessive to me but.... only in America!!

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Gestation of Americans? Normally 9 months...

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Californian's tho'... that's another matter. =)


I'm curious... anyone here equipped for emergencies?

Out here on the earthquake belt of the west coast we've been told we should be able to sustain ourselves... alone... without help for a minimum 3 days.

So how would you make out? Would you be able to go it alone for 3 days or would you be clogging the 9 1 1 lines... adding to the problem?

WJ: My family was there. They got everybody out.

WHOOO HOOOO IT'S BACK!!!!!!! THE POWER IS BACK!!!!!

I think they should do this every once in a while, because people really take electricity for granted.... and noone knew how much 'fun' it is to not have traffic lights and no electric appliances other than those that are battery powered. But overall it was incredibly annoying... 20 hours without light... South Brooklyn... 21st century. Yuckk.

after walking my pregnant co-worker down 32 flights of steps and walking her to her dad's barbershop- I walked from 60th and Madison down 3rd avenue across bklyn bridge. 3 hours. people were partying all night in the streets. lighting candles. saw the stars above the city for teh 1st time. power cam on 9:00 this morning. i am excited.

our power was out until friday 1pm then we lost our phones! had no water until 7pm friday nite.
so we played pioneers!!! I think the kids hated it tho!!

I want to know why it is as soon as the power goes off kids get hungry!!!??!!

all in all the only downfall was my house got extremely hot cuz of the humidity!!!

played pioneers? good reason to introduce the kids to camping at an early age! catch them in their "i want to help/learn" stage just gathering wood has many benefits - (leave the green ones, those are good for smoke signals. we're going to cook so we need the dry ones.) the little ones gather the smaller twigs for kindling and the older ones gather bigger pieces of wood. everything is used, hence everyone learns (s)he is needed, esteem grows and knowledge of the real world (outside of a city) grows too! plus the added benefit of doing things as a family - all working/playing together!

"I'm also wondering whether or not there may have been a terrorist element to this that the government is not willing to reveal at this time. Anyone heard anything about the actual cause of this that's been verified yet?"

My thoughts exactly.

My mom and I were just in NYC during this outage trying to catch a bus to the Newark airport for my flight to Germany... We went out of the hotel at about 4, sat at the stop to wait, and at about 4:10 or so traffic lights went out.. everything clogged up.. we heard later that additionally, our bus got in an accident about a block or two away. A series of either unfortunate mishaps followed, and we ended up basically being stranded on the sidewalk for 4 hours... I was late for my flight by *half* an hour.. (plus what it would take me to get through security etc.)

I was very pissed. Luckily, we managed to nab the last room in a hotel in New Jersey near EWR, stayed the night, and I got on a rebooked flight 24 hours later, despite yet a few other mishaps. Wee, I totally wish that that had happened, say, 10 hours later or something... at least until we were off the ground..sigh.

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I want to know why it is as soon as the power goes off kids get hungry!!!??!!

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Not such a bad thing if you think about it... The fridge needs electricity, and without it for 20+ hours can lead to some nasty things living in there, so let 'em at it

Power went out here in Detroit a day before I left for NC (just got back today). I was pissed, since there was a possibility we would not be able to go on our long awaited beach excursion due to refueling areas having no power. IT SUCKED! But alas the day of, the power began going back on all around us, and by departure time it was clear we'd be going. We had a great vacation...Good to be back with the power on. I can't believe how truly dependent we are on electricity. It was frightening for a while, but I could see every star in the sky that night since there was no light pollution...weird.

Here are a couple of cool pictures from NOAA pertaining to the black out.

Before
During

Thanx for those ^. Tells the story for sure.

Damn London was also hit. What the hell is going On?........
Osama + Sadam are really working hard.




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