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Wakkos Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: Azylum's Secret Lab Insane since: Oct 2000	posted 10-18-2001 03:36 Yeah, I would like to know your opinion: I'm playing a little bit here with some Bugimus, Slime and mr.maX stuff. I kind like it! But here's my question: When you make click on any of the links (now working only the art one and I know that the content is horrible) appears a layer, must of this layers has images, and for that, those images make the site takes more to load. It won't be better to use an Ilayer? or maybe you have another suggestion! BTW, I have a layer (this is the Slime part) visible while the page loads, but the layer is suppose to be on top! I've already checked the INdex and all that, but doesn't work (Loading is the name of the layer, I think) Any Idea Why is that? I posted all this here, because I thought it was the right place, if it's not, just move it!! Edit> I was thinking on the possibility of make it in PHP, Something like define and 'case' blok and define the layers as a variable and then change the content? IS that a crazy idea? I dunno too much about PHP, but i'm on it! Edit II: Frames maybe??? [This message has been edited by Wakkos (edited 10-18-2001).]
Slime Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist From: Massachusetts, USA Insane since: Mar 2000	posted 10-18-2001 06:48 Hmm, for starters, you mispelled "width" in the #tope style specification. After fixing that, try setting position:absolute; for #tope, since absolutely positioned layers always appear over regularly positioned layers. BTW: consider using a script to make everything invisible except for the loading layer, and then on load, make the loading layer invisible and the rest all visible. [edit: I like the idea for the top of the image, that's cool. I don't like how the W is so pixelated, though... I know it's supposed to look ragged, but there could still be anti-aliasing. Of course, I know that's not possible without a PNG, and IE doesn't support PNGs... But maybe there's some sort of solution nonetheless? I dunno. Sometimes it's possible to come up with some creative way of making it look OK. [This message has been edited by Slime (edited 10-18-2001).]
Wakkos Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: Azylum's Secret Lab Insane since: Oct 2000	posted 10-18-2001 14:44 Thanks Slime! I Can do the W image without jaggie, I just have to work a little, I'm in the 'testing' moment!! How could you do to do not load the invisibles layer? and only load them when that propierty change?
Wakkos Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: Azylum's Secret Lab Insane since: Oct 2000	posted 10-18-2001 16:56 What about those preloads windows that Slime and Doc have in their sites? Would be to difficult to make it? I mean, in that way, it just loaf the windows content instead of all the site content!! Any Idea where can I learn a little more about that?
Allewyn Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: Solitary confinement Insane since: Feb 2001	posted 10-18-2001 17:10 Well, that's pretty cool Wacko! There's hope for us mere mortals to accomplish something superior, and I'm inspred Incidentally, the two buttons on the left have three horizontal lines in them and the two left buttons have only two. Did you mean to do that? Not a biggy... And I get what you were going for on the W...kind of brush strokes right? Just hard to see is all. I dig the floating background!
InI Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist From: Somewhere over the rainbow Insane since: Mar 2001	posted 10-18-2001 18:28 The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action. We have done so. Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future. Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.
Wakkos Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: Azylum's Secret Lab Insane since: Oct 2000	posted 10-18-2001 18:41 Thanks InI! I haven't make the optimizations, and the images are just like a 'sketch' I have to retouch them, and all that! (I have 56K connection, hehehe) because first I want to figure out how to make the navigation (Show the information and all that,) I don't want people to reload that image up there everytime they make a click...
eyezaer Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist From: the Psychiatric Ward Insane since: Sep 2000	posted 10-18-2001 20:14 yah, How is that loading page done? I see it allover... and I have been trying to do it... but I think my JS is missing someting. ::::izzay
Wakkos Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: Azylum's Secret Lab Insane since: Oct 2000	posted 10-18-2001 20:23 #tope { float:center; top:0; left:0; widht:100%; height:800; z-index:9000; background-color:#000071} function loaded() { document.getElementById('loading').style.visibility = 'hidden'; } <BODY ONLOAD="loaded()"> But as Slime said before, Watch the DIV positioning.... Edit> sorry: <div id="tope"><FONT COLOR="#FF8000">Page loading, it really look messy, <br>so you better wait until it looks nice <br>(just a few seconds, i really dunno how many K it is)</FONT></div> And, Slime, I used your Own Script to t\do this, so I have to add just another lines to define the other layers visibility as Hidden, Isn't it? Example: document.getElementById('loading').style.visibility = 'hidden'; document.getElementById('image').style.visibility = 'visible'; document.getElementById('content').style.visibility = 'visible'; [This message has been edited by Wakkos (edited 10-18-2001).]
Slime Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist From: Massachusetts, USA Insane since: Mar 2000	posted 10-18-2001 21:18 Yes; of course, if you do it that way, you have to specify that everything is hidden by default. You do this with visibility:hidden; in the style sheet for each element. You still have "width" mispelled "widht."
Wakkos Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: Azylum's Secret Lab Insane since: Oct 2000	posted 10-18-2001 22:49 Yeah, it was the one still uploaded for Eyezaer to watch the code...

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Wakkos
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Azylum's Secret Lab
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted 10-18-2001 03:36

Yeah, I would like to know your opinion:
I'm playing a little bit here with some Bugimus, Slime and mr.maX stuff.

I kind like it!
But here's my question:

When you make click on any of the links (now working only the art one and I know that the content is horrible) appears a layer, must of this layers has images, and for that, those images make the site takes more to load.
It won't be better to use an Ilayer? or maybe you have another suggestion!

BTW, I have a layer (this is the Slime part) visible while the page loads, but the layer is suppose to be on top! I've already checked the INdex and all that, but doesn't work (Loading is the name of the layer, I think) Any Idea Why is that?

I posted all this here, because I thought it was the right place, if it's not, just move it!!

Edit> I was thinking on the possibility of make it in PHP, Something like define and 'case' blok and define the layers as a variable and then change the content? IS that a crazy idea? I dunno too much about PHP, but i'm on it!

Edit II: Frames maybe???

[This message has been edited by Wakkos (edited 10-18-2001).]

Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted 10-18-2001 06:48

Hmm, for starters, you mispelled "width" in the #tope style specification. After fixing that, try setting position:absolute; for #tope, since absolutely positioned layers always appear over regularly positioned layers.

BTW: consider using a script to make everything invisible except for the loading layer, and then on load, make the loading layer invisible and the rest all visible.

[edit: I like the idea for the top of the image, that's cool. I don't like how the W is so pixelated, though... I know it's supposed to look ragged, but there could still be anti-aliasing. Of course, I know that's not possible without a PNG, and IE doesn't support PNGs... But maybe there's some sort of solution nonetheless? I dunno. Sometimes it's possible to come up with some creative way of making it look OK.

[This message has been edited by Slime (edited 10-18-2001).]

Wakkos
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Azylum's Secret Lab
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted 10-18-2001 14:44

Thanks Slime! I Can do the W image without jaggie, I just have to work a little, I'm in the 'testing' moment!!

How could you do to do not load the invisibles layer? and only load them when that propierty change?

Wakkos
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Azylum's Secret Lab
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted 10-18-2001 16:56

What about those preloads windows that Slime and Doc have in their sites?
Would be to difficult to make it?
I mean, in that way, it just loaf the windows content instead of all the site content!!
Any Idea where can I learn a little more about that?

Allewyn
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Solitary confinement
Insane since: Feb 2001

posted 10-18-2001 17:10

Well, that's pretty cool Wacko! There's hope for us mere mortals to accomplish something superior, and I'm inspred

Incidentally, the two buttons on the left have three horizontal lines in them and the two left buttons have only two. Did you mean to do that? Not a biggy...

And I get what you were going for on the W...kind of brush strokes right? Just hard to see is all. I dig the floating background!

InI
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted 10-18-2001 18:28

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

Wakkos
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Azylum's Secret Lab
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted 10-18-2001 18:41

Thanks InI!

I haven't make the optimizations, and the images are just like a 'sketch' I have to retouch them, and all that! (I have 56K connection, hehehe) because first I want to figure out how to make the navigation (Show the information and all that,) I don't want people to reload that image up there everytime they make a click...

eyezaer
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: the Psychiatric Ward
Insane since: Sep 2000

posted 10-18-2001 20:14

yah,
How is that loading page done? I see it allover... and I have been trying to do it... but I think my JS is missing someting.

::::izzay

Wakkos
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Azylum's Secret Lab
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted 10-18-2001 20:23

#tope { float:center; top:0; left:0; widht:100%; height:800; z-index:9000; background-color:#000071}

function loaded()
{
document.getElementById('loading').style.visibility = 'hidden';

}

<BODY ONLOAD="loaded()">

But as Slime said before, Watch the DIV positioning....

Edit> sorry: <div id="tope"><FONT COLOR="#FF8000">Page loading, it really look messy, <br>so you better wait until it looks nice <br>(just a few seconds, i really dunno how many K it is)</FONT></div>

And, Slime, I used your Own Script to t\do this, so I have to add just another lines to define the other layers visibility as Hidden, Isn't it?

Example:
document.getElementById('loading').style.visibility = 'hidden';
document.getElementById('image').style.visibility = 'visible';
document.getElementById('content').style.visibility = 'visible';

[This message has been edited by Wakkos (edited 10-18-2001).]

Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted 10-18-2001 21:18

Yes; of course, if you do it that way, you have to specify that everything is hidden by default. You do this with visibility:hidden; in the style sheet for each element.

You still have "width" mispelled "widht."

Wakkos
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Azylum's Secret Lab
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted 10-18-2001 22:49

Yeah, it was the one still uploaded for Eyezaer to watch the code...