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WarMage
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Rochester, New York, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 03-11-2002 05:27

I was wondering what others thought about this. I have to make a managerial choice between PHP and JSP.

The site I am working for does not get millions of hits, probabally does not get thousands of hits.

We have a good amount of funding, but like to keep the cost down.

We are soon to be getting a new server and I will be setting up the server for a team of 10 -15 people to develope and maintain 15 sites on.

The background information is not too important. I am just wondering what all of your takes are on the two languages.

All info is really appreciated, if you are new to either of the languages I would really like your opinions. I have some people working here who are really new to programming, and your take would be appreciated.

I don't want to make the learning curve an issue, since in this situation it is not an issue.

Thanks!

-mage-

InI
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From: Somewhere over the rainbow
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 03-11-2002 07:11

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jiblet
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Minneapolis, MN, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 03-11-2002 18:19

Yes, one sure reason to go with JSP is to ensure maximum scalability. Another reason is that Java is a true object-oriented language with all the requisite controls and checks. PHP only emulates OOP, but doesn't stop you from doing things you shouldn't. The result is that Java is far superior for developing fault-tolerant, mission-critical applications.

Still, PHP development gets things done quick, and I have noticed no slow down in processing up to 3000 pages (parsing 100s of lines of PHP for every single page), 35000 hits, 1gb traffic in a single day on our 3+ year old Pentium machine running RedHat. I think few languages are as ergonomic as PHP, it makes writing web applications intuitive.

As long as you are not concerned about huge scalability, the only other thing to watch out for is that PHP is more error-prone, but that is going to depend more on the quality of your developers than your choice of development platforms.

Keep in mind that my opinion is biased to PHP since I use it every day, although I have done a fair amount of Java programming, I have never worked with servlets, so I can't really advocate the benefits properly.

-jiblet

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WarMage
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Rochester, New York, USA
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 03-12-2002 01:15

Thanks for all the replies so far. It is helpful. I would still like some more opinions.

Anyone and everyone is who I would like to hear from.

-mage-

mjv
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Perth, Australia
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 03-12-2002 06:24

I would go for PHP...

php is my preferred language.

I have only use jsp a little bit, so i am unable to comment on its practicality and uses.

looking back at this post, it looks like i wasnt much help at all!

Oh well!




-James-

bitdamaged
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From: 100101010011 <-- right about here
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted posted 03-12-2002 18:42

I've been using PHP for ages now for smaller sites. So simple and cleannnn.

I talked to a guy at work who used to use PHP on an enterprise level site and he mentioned though that as traffic went up they couldn't really do anything to relieve the traffic outside of throwing more servers on the front end.

JSP is much more difficult but that's actually what we're moving to at my work environement for it's scalablility and power.

I think the main choice here is how you are going to use it and who is going to be using it. Sounds like for your application PHP is the way to go.



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