Preserved Topic: Help the mindless one ?

Ok, before I go any further, I just want you all to know I am 'very persistent!' I will not give up on something, until a) photoshop someone gets erased from my HD, b) my computer explodes, c) i'm arrested for using a pirated version.

Now that this is settled, help! just a little?
This issue has to relate to the 'drips and drops and splashes oh my' tutorial (I think that's the title)
By DarkGarden.

I've been trying to do this for the past seven days. (in counting)
No matter how many times I do something It never turns out like it's suppose to
I downloaded the psd file from the tutorial and it's so damn perfect

Like nearly idealistic water! I've tried everything, and everytime I get close to it
It deforms itself.
I'm far from quitting .. But a little advice would be greatly appreciated.. Please?


It isn't my fault .. I was hit repeatedly in the head at age .. I forget.

Well, first off, we don't talk about pirate software around here. This is your one and only warning, for that.

Ok, in response to the specific questions you had in the Ozone section, I'm going to paste the same reply here.
First thread here for those that are lost; http://www.OzoneAsylum.com/Forum1/HTML/000926.html

Ok, first thing. When you are at Image>Adjust>Levels don't worry about those numbers. What you want to do, is get those edges smooth, but not too smooth. So in this case play, until it feels good. No, I don't mean that, I mean with Photoshop. Next instead of doing Select>Inverse & Edit>Clear, I would try Select>Inverse and hit the delete key.

Good luck.

Uh .. ignore the um . part about the sea people. I was typing with my eyes closed (gulps)

-.- stupid mistake... I won't make it again ..

But um .. does the fact that i'm on a PC, and a MAC version of Photoshop have any difference? like is photoshop better (prefered) for the MAC over a PC? or does it not really matter?

My multimedia teacher, told me the MAC's overall performance is twice that of a PC.
I'm starting to wonder if this includes programs such as Adobe (imageready, photoshop, acrobat etc..)

Ok .. I'll shut my mouth now, I don't need anyone chasing after me with a pitch fork 0.0

It isn't my fault .. I was hit repeatedly in the head at age .. I forget.

As far as I know there is no difference in the actual program... whether it be used on a PC or a Mac (I could be wrong)... but I have heard that Macs are the preferred choice for Graphic Designers. I think the OS for Macs is somewhat more efficient than winX plus I am led to believe that the graphic display is better. I have never used a Mac so i shan't dig my hole too deep!

One of these days when my boat comes in I shall buy a Mac and see for myself! (carries on dreaming of oodles of mulla)

~Vp~

I've used both Mac and PC for Photoshopping, and yeah in version 1,2,&3 of Photoshop there was a huge difference. It started going away with version 4, and when I played with 5.5 on both Mac and Win, I never noticed any difference. (Dunno about 6 yet, I've only used the PC version.) So *shrug* it's personal taste. However this might change with Aqua, aka OS X, but Photoshop should be rebuilt just for Aqua IMHO.

YMMV

H'm .
Well I was just wondering, but I'm part of a multimedia tech academy, at my school, and we use programs such as this, on what they call the 'Macintosh G4'

Now i have to admit the screen is much smoother with graphics, but the overall performance of the machine is crap
they constantly crash, even with that G4 chip, and their 128RAM chips seem more like 32RAM at times

Their sleek design doesn't make up for their lack in performance. Now please note
This is what "I" have gathered from the use of the G4, Then again the computers are on a network login, and that may affect they over all quality of the computer

Being that the system server is 'slowwwwwwwww...' .. and it's supporting over 30 other computers.

Well .. thanks for your feed back vp. I appreciate the response.

It isn't my fault .. I was hit repeatedly in the head at age .. I forget.

is Aqua actually that better?
I hear it's suppose to be the next wave of OS
But i've yet to test it myself -.-


It isn't my fault .. I was hit repeatedly in the head at age .. I forget.

going totally off topic just for a second and showing my ignorance.. I have seen YMMV used a few times , but I havent got teh foggiest as to what its an acronym for?.. any one care to emlighten by shrivelled gray matter?
TIA

~Vp~



Edit by F1_error: YMMV=Your Mileage May Vary.
Edit by Vp:shanks arot F1
Edit By F1_error: NP VP
Edit by Vp:you da man! talk about saving Asylum Storage! heh
Edit by F1_error: JDMP (JDMP=Just Doing My Part)
Edit by Vp: I knew that! lol (cleans up all those darn edited by messages)
Edit by Jestah: Sorry felt left out.
Edit By F1_error: Awww. Don't feel left out. Tho, I kinda feel like I'm leaving secret messages.



[This message has been edited by F1_error (edited 01-15-2001).]

This is a bit off topic for me
But i was just running over the design of this messageboard, and it's by far more advanced than mine >.< It's from the same makers, but Doc really changed it.

He added in major CSS, and changed all the defualt images.
Must've spent a while doing that, It took me nearly half an hour to go through every .cgi script and change the copy righting on mine >.< Then, again Doc's got a higher version of the UBB

Uh .. Just ignore me -.- .. I tend to trail off on odd subjects. I'll get an image of what I was talking about with the dropplets, maybe you can show me where i'm messing up.

It isn't my fault .. I was hit repeatedly in the head at age .. I forget.

*tries not to turn this into a Mac vs PC war*

Your multimedia teacher must be confused. Performance wise Mac's work better with photshop then PC's. But this is because Photoshop is mac optimized - adobe designed it to run better on a mac -. PC's, for the Most part, perform high-end (large network servers, high end 3d programs) tasks more efficiently then Mac's. Mac's deffinately DON'T get twice the performance of PC's (trust me, I use Mac's all the time in school [Our school has Mac's set up just for photoshop, but you can use for other programs if there's need to], and PC's all the time at home).

And as far as I've seen, there is no difference between the Mac and PC version of Photoshop?

Again.. no fighting between Mac's and PC's...
..it's settled, Mac's look nicer, PC's taste better.

- Dan -

*eye begins to twitch*..
I think vp got my dosage a bit high ..

Ok, PC's and Mac are uh .. themself, I'll leave it at that.

Hey, tell me something, how long have you been using photoshop? I just started around 5.0
I think this maybe a reason why i lack in the knowledge you have obtained over using the program in it's earlier versions

It's like knowing flash 3 - 5 If you just start with flash5, You pull your hair out, but if you have past experience You know exactly what to expect, and you'll notice the changes..

Do you understand what i'm saying?
If you don't .. it's ok, I often confuse myself -.-


It isn't my fault .. I was hit repeatedly in the head at age .. I forget.

ah, the drips... that is a really cool tutoral... it has some sweet stuff in it...

I started at 3... my dad got it 4 free, cuz they were trashing it where he worked.... go figure.... used it on my good old power mac.... hahaha.... I never got very far with it... then i got 5 last year? year b4? i dunno... i loved all the undo's... then i.....



"i have seen what the world has to offer... i want none of it..."

I was contemplating on getting v6.0 (legit), but .. is it really worth that much money? or is version 5.5 just as good?

It isn't my fault .. I was hit repeatedly in the head at age .. I forget.

I started with Photoshop 5.5
Started at the end of March 2000...

- Dan -

H'm ...
I don't mean to get nosey, but does anyong here use filters, like Eyecandy, and Xenoflex?
Or do you prefer what photoshop has defaulted you with?

I understand a true artist of photoshop could do everything those filters can do with ease.
And most people prefer not to use filters that are 'addon' like.
But does anyone here use them?

Or did I just answer my own question -.-

It isn't my fault .. I was hit repeatedly in the head at age .. I forget.

hmmmm...casts mind way back... (well for me its way back!) my first exposure to PS was V4... got hooked and have been a PS addict ever since... and dont regret one single late night! if ya know what I mean! heh

I work on a puter all day but using a Cad/Cam package (3D Solid Modelling) so coming home and firing up PS for some relaxation and outlet is great.... well most if the time... heh....

~Vp~

Most people here generally frown upon the use of third-party filters. There are certainly some helpful filters out there, but most of them (to me) look cheap and gaudy, especially Xenofex and Eye Candy.

I have to agree on the use of plug-in's. I have used photoshop from it's first release and have only used plug-ins maybe 5 or 6 times.
I have bought 2 useless color correction plug-ins, and 1 or 2 masking plug-ins but found that I could get the same effects and with more control with the built tools.

I find most of the masking plug-in waste of money and time. I have yet to get exceptable outline faster and easyer the just channel masking and quick masking.

The only plug-ins I realy use is for loading and saving Scitex LW/CT files.

jstuartj

I've only used Xenofex, and Eyecandy, I've heard of other filters but those are generally the most used.
I like Xenofex because of the lightning channel feature.
It's useful when trying to spark out words in electricity.
I'm sure there's a way to do this without the filter, but if it has to relate to the difference clouds, and invert method
That'll take all day to get the same affect as you could with Xenofex's lightning filter.

Often enough filters are the 'cheap' way out. I know this.
But they also make something that would normally be tideous, and annoying to do simple.
So you can go on with the next step ..
Oh well.
I suppose it's a matter of opinion really .


It isn't my fault .. I was hit repeatedly in the head at age .. I forget.

Actually it's not filters that people have issues with, it's how those filters are used. Take for instance...



...my holiday .sig. This uses tons of filters in it. The lights were made with a base of KTP5 Shape Shifter applied twice, once with a fade undo. Those two layers mergered together, and then various layer blending modes with gradients applied. The letters are yet another varient of the Cephloplastic tutorial, with Shape Shifter applied and fade undo applied. The ever so slight distorion of the candy lines came from a base I made with KPT3 Gradient Designer, and made to a height map, with the glass filter and distort filter applied. The glow is on the lights is made from three different layers of Eyecandy glow, they really work to give that cheap glow effect. The Drop Shadows are also Eyecandy, on a seperate layer, with once again, fade undo. There were more filters used in this project, but I really don't remember them all.

Using filters 'stock' is a crime. It looks bad and will cheapen almost any image you do. Notice I said almost. There are times when you'd want to use them 'stock'. But having a good selection of filters around is like an artist having a good selection of brushes and 'other' tools laying around. Yeah, you can paint with just one brush, but when you've several, you can do so much more.

Whoa, good summation of filter usage, F1! I persoanlly don't use 3rd party filters too much, but I am notoriously lazy and hate the extra time needed to learn to use them properly! ;-)

On the mac question, running a mac at 128MB of ram is simply not enough. My system uses 45MB right now, and the recommended allocation for Photoshop is 16.5MB. Hmm, do the math. I personally run my Photoshop with 96MB aloocated, and you need other memory for other things, email, browser, ets. Chances are you're running on virrtual memory, so of course performance should suck. I hate to be a RAM bigot, but I won't run a Mac or a PC on less than 256MB, heh.

Your pal, -doc-