Preserved Topic: Need some help... blood (Page 1 of 1)

I'm working on this piece of art rigth now. Take a look here. I'm happy with almost everything. But not the blood... it dosent' look realistic. Don't know what to do.

Anyone? Tips? Tutorials maybe? I have to finish this...

// Softhead
evensen oriGinal

Try this one
http://www.gameart.com/tutorials/index.asp?tutorial=rorshach&page=3

Weel this is something i did for fun a few years back using a mixture of COLOR BURN, AIRBRUSH and DEEP RED, set the airbrush to fade at a set number of pixels and then play around with the settings.

Blood Bath

I know this is not a huge amount of info, but i basically just played with it.

eeew....

Thanks, I'll try play around a little bit.

// Softhead
evensen oriGinal

Hmm... are you talking about dried blood or runny drippy wet blood?

Well... runny drippy would be good.. I think.

// Softhead
evensen oriGinal

Okey, I made some adjustments... take a look. Any comments?

// Softhead
evensen oriGinal

OK, something is very wrong here..

I see a white screen. There *is* a pic there, since I can get it's properties, but it's a 800*600 pic that weighs only 5928 bytes.

Softhead do you get CA (computer arts) magazine? becuase I see an image that is off one of there CDs.

Very nice work tho (even if there is a image off CA magazine) , sorry don't know of any good tuts for blood.

Nimraw: My computer crashed... dunno what happened. But it's fixed now, check it out.

Darkshadow: Yes, I get CA Magazine. And yes, it's a picture I took from them. But I'm not gonna use this pic anywhere, it was just for fun... to maintain my skills It have been to much boring websites to make the last weeks, so I just had to do something different. I took the head from one of my friends too You can take a look at the original here: portrett

Well... thanks anyway I'm happy with the result...

// Softhead
evensen oriGinal

not that I could do as well, but one of the problems I see is that the blood looks 2D. it has none of the shading that the head has. See how the blood to the far right has the same color/highlight/tonality as the blood to the far left. now look at the color/highlight/tonality of the head right next to those areas of blood. one is hightlighted, the other darkly shaded.

the other thing is the blood looks too thick. this might be partially due to the shading problems, but it seems off, like it is a thick piece of plastic instead of liquid.

rest of it is pretty good. thought the hole the hooked things are coming out of looks a bit off too.

Yes, you right about that wrc 1. I will try something else when I'm home from school. I didn't think of the shading and that stuff when I made it so... I will take a look at it.
It looks thick, it does. Maybe because I used the platic wrap filter... really hate those filters, I will try something else. And try something with the hole... it doesn't look too good.

Peace!

// Softhead
evensen oriGinal

[This message has been edited by Softhead (edited 10-05-2001).]

I did some adjustments to it... take a look. Still not 100% happy with it... but what do you think?

// Softhead
evensen oriGinal

alrighty, the shading is coming along nice, but i really think the plastic wrap has to go. I thought it might have been used, but didn't want to insult you if you had done it by hand. use the burn/dodge tool-airbrush-something less than 100 opacity for the highlights, . I noticed another reason it looks a bit off. the blood looks like it is dripping straight down in a 2D way, not following the curve of the head. in fact ther are dark stripes near the edges that run absolutely vertical. if we were looking directly at the blood from straight on, then it might be okay, but we are looking at it from the side, so it needs to follow the curve of the head, especially the right part.

maybe part of the "thickness" comes from the dark shadows at the edges. it looks a bit like it had been beveled and embossed.



[This message has been edited by wcr one (edited 10-05-2001).]

Thnaks, I'll try to make it 'by hand'... won't stop until it finished 100% now... heh

// Softhead
evensen oriGinal

Made some more adjustments... this time I was only using the airbrush, burn and dodge tool and a few other tricks. It doesn't look like realistic blood... but that wasn't what I was lookin for. This kinda cartoon[atic]... so I'm happy now. Will try make some more realistic blood next time... I've learnt some new tricks so I'm happy...

What do you think of this piece? Like it?

// Softhead
evensen oriGinal

that works a lot better. I figured the goal was to fit it into the overall texture, not to make it look real, but to make it look like it fits in the graphical reality of the image (if that made any sense). looks a lot more like it is part of the object.

You might try fiddling with curves to get the right look to the shine... the shine is what gives blood the wet look. remember that despite its color, blood is fairly translucent when wet. You can simulate this by giving it the shine spot like it has, and then lightening the far side, where the light will be coming through. The middle can stay dark.

The color of the blood should blend with the color of the skin, which is a problem since the skin in that picture is bluish-cyan and will cause it to look purplish.

The "dried blood" around the spout of whatever those are doesn't seem to follow the curvature of the head near the right... it curves slightly on the left, but on the right it seems too straight.

Also, it's probably too late for this suggestion, but it'd look better in my opinion if the tear of blood came from a around the tear duct at the inner side of the eye... near the nose.

The blood in my sig is rather cartoony, but if its the effect you're looking for, feel free to download it and study it up close to see what it looks like zoomed in.

Thanks... I tried do what you said and ended up in this

What do you think? It looks much more wet now... but it became a little bit too thick I think... what do you guys think?

// Softhead
evensen oriGinal

Looking lots beter softhead.

If you blend the highlights a bit, nad move the brightest part closer to the edge, it will lose some of the thickness. On the individual drops headed for the left eye, the values nearest the skin should be darker.

Then work a bit more on the overall shading following the contour of the head, make it all a little darker( more arterial) and you`ve got a keeper.

This is coming along nicely. I love to see stuff progress. Good job so far.



Why, yes. I was raised by Apes. How did you know ?

IMHO - There seems to ba a lot of action around the hole in the head and i am possitive this would cause blood splatter around the exit wound ? Also i think the blood should be running down the head a bit more, following the contours of the face as it drips down the nose and over the brow.. the blood is look alot better, but the it still looks too artificial, try making another layer above the blood and overlay a few dribbly lines of ( darker color red ) and use COLORBURN on the layer, that will give the blood a little texture, the you can start working on getting the nice wet look.....

That?s looking much better , but my only crit is this "would there be blood coming from the eye?", The eye socket would stop the blood coming down that so close to the eye would it not or is it tear of blood. I would agree with axleclarkeuk over that there would be more blood splatter around the exit wound, but if you want it to look surreal then have it the way it is. Looking good tho more work to it I think tho .

Thanks Bob, tried do what you said. Take a look at it now... I made it all darker, plus I added some extra effects... what do you think?

// Softhead
evensen oriGinal

Axle: I will try do that later... now I have other things to do

Thanks for the advice... I will try it later okey!

// Softhead
evensen oriGinal

Did a few changes to it now. Statin look really good I think... this was just something quick I did, need more work to be perfect... it has to be perfect you know

Take a look at it

The whole idea was to make it surreal... I like that kind of art. And this one also has a massage. The pills... it's like they're escaping from his head... he is becomming clean. And he looks forward, up, to his bright future. But it is not easy to be clean... it take a lot of pain... and that's why all the blood. Understand? It's a drug addict getting help... and he becommes clean

Anyway... I need to go now. I'll work more on it when I come home. Any tips? Comments? And btw, thanks for helping me out on this one...

// Softhead
evensen oriGinal

[This message has been edited by Softhead (edited 10-08-2001).]

Now !! thats looking a lot better, ilike the effect of the blood shooting up throught the head, that looks great, maybe a few more stray splashes ? blood on head looks good too, you got the wet look you were trying to achieve.

Umm..... the only thing that kinda does'nt look right id the redish shadow on the blood, maybe go without it, or make it black and bring it in closer to the blood and turn the opacity down slightley.....

But looking a hell of a lot better that the previous examples...

Keep at it fella.......you'll have a good result in the end.....

My only nit pic(s) is the red *shadow* in front of the blood path. Makes it appear as if the blood has already been there and is retracting into the wound. and , if you could put some definition inbetween the drips so it doesn`t seem so slab like.

Does that make sense ?



Why, yes. I was raised by Apes. How did you know ?

Didn't get any time to work on this yesterday... I was workin all day with a website.

Did a few small changes this morning. Gave the blood more contrast... and got rid of the red "shadow". I'm very happy with this one now. Lookin good I think

// Softhead
evensen oriGinal