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mark grenell
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: coastal nc, usa
Insane since: Nov 2000

posted posted 05-10-2002 15:05

The latest PCPhoto mag presented an ideaon page 98 that is supposed to give a negative background with a color foreground object. Basically the steps were this:
1. Select the entire color image.
2. Use "copy" and "paste" commands to create an identical layer on top of the original.
3. Convert the top image to grayscale.
4. Use invert command to make it a negative image.
5. Use eraser tool to remove areas from the negative layer, exposing the color image below.

Seemed like a nice idea...until I tried it.
Every time I do step three, both images (layer 1 and layer2) convert to grayscale, not just the top (layer 2) image.

What am I missing? How can I keep the bottom layer (layer 1) as a color layer?

Any ideas.

Thank-You,

Mark Grenell

vogonpoet
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Mi, USA
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 05-10-2002 15:21

yup, dont convert the image using MODE-->grayscale!

Instead, use IMAGE ADJUST DESAT or

IMAGE ADJUST CHANNEL MIXER and check monochromatic



MODE effects the whole documents colour space, whereas IMAGE ADJUST is layer dependant

cyoung
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: The northeast portion of the 30th star
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 05-10-2002 15:22

Sounds like you converted the image to grayscale. What you want to do with that 2nd layer is desaturate it.. under image>adjust I think. Don't remember 5.5 very well but I think that was the same.

edit: uh, yea- what VP said.



[This message has been edited by cyoung (edited 05-10-2002).]

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 05-10-2002 15:23

You might just want to try desaturating the layer (Image

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted posted 05-10-2002 15:25

geez people! Three responses in a span of two minutes, all saying the same thing. And, of course, I'm the last one to chime in.

cyoung, we definitely have something freaky goin' on here...



WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted posted 05-10-2002 17:14

Of course, you could make a copy of the file, change it into greyscale, and then copy it back into the original file...and there you have it.

warjournal
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Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 05-10-2002 17:47


Heh. Ctrl + shift + u

mark grenell
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: coastal nc, usa
Insane since: Nov 2000

posted posted 05-10-2002 23:26

Thanks everyone for the prompt replies and the kind assistance. All the suggestions were helpful, but the ctrl+shift+u is the ticket. Thank-You again.

warjournal
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From:
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 05-10-2002 23:37


vogonpoet
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Mi, USA
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 05-10-2002 23:49

*slaps WJ with rather large trout* heh

warjournal
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From:
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 05-11-2002 00:49

Hey! I hope that's a cookie flavored trout, mister.

For those of you that don't know, Image > Adjust > Desaturate = ctrl + shift + u. VP did beat me to it, but I'm not in the mood to share.

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