Preserved Topic: Drawing Humans (Page 1 of 1)

I didn't know where else to post this, it's not a PS question, but "How do you draw humans?"

You know, like muscle structure, and proportions etc...

Is there a GOOD tut on the internet for this?

Some help would be appreciated


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Not online, but try to get hold of a copy of Burne Hogarth's (sp?) Drawing dynamic anatomy.

It's quite cheap, and covers everything from bone structure, tendons, muscle mass etc.
Nice to have as a reference. You might also want to check Grays Anatomy.

I initially used b/w-photos of body builders /fitness people. B/W cause it's easier to get the correct values/contrast and extremely fit people cause they have better muscle definition. (makes it easier to see what muscle connects where)

Boris Vallejo's Bodies could work as photo reference material.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0195030958/qid=1034871465/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-8901364-7821756?v=glance


Check you r local library if you can't/don't want to buy it.

Aside from that, the single most important thing is OBSERVATION.

Sit at the mall, or at the park, and sketch people you see. Note the way bodies move, the angles and proportions with which thngs bend and twist, etc.

Find photos of swimsuit models or body builders to draw...

"Tutorials" aren't what you need. Lot's of time to practice, learn as much as can about human anatomy, and simply observe from real life is what will do it.

practice... practice... practice...

and study anatomy some. it helps...

"8 head lengths is the norm for figure drawings (or even 8 1/2 heads, if the person is very tall and "heroic"). <bg>
http://www.portrait-artist.org/misc/index.html



[This message has been edited by NoJive (edited 10-17-2002).]

Thanks a lot, but thats not what I mean, I've been drawing anatomy with some referance books that the art teacher has in my class (because I'm already 2 months ahead in my cartooning class). I mean like drawing a basic figure, you know, turning those base stick drawings into basic shapes, then getting them proportionally right, not muscles, because thsose have never been a problem for me. Like proportions for arms, legs etc...And gestures, the class that they have for proportionally drawing humans at Clark College is $300 so thats not a good idea for me right now, since my parents won't pay for it.

Actually, NoJives stuff was pretty good, now that I look deeper into the site...NM about the last post, thanks a lot!

I wish I had a scanner, then I could scan in some of my drawing to get some advice on 'em...And school sucks, they wan't a dollar for each scan!

inside and out, people

Jason

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I mean like drawing a basic figure, you know, turning those base stick drawings into basic shapes, then getting them proportionally right, not muscles, because thsose have never been a problem for me. Like proportions for arms, legs etc...And gestures,

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~re-reads all of the replies....~

Yup, I think that's what we're all talking about here cfb........

What did our responses not have to do with that?? You get to that point by doing lots of practice, study, and observation of real life examples.

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[This message has been edited by DL-44 (edited 10-18-2002).]

I also find it hard to swallow that "you can draw muscles proportionally correct" but you can't draw the figures as a whole... You contradict yourself.

Thanks, JK. You seem to have all my Missing Links.
It`s weird. Almost every time I try and find one, you post it.

Man, you`re good.

This would be so much easier to explain if I had a scanner...What I mean is:

1. I am a pretty accomplised drawer, and I can draw a human, and get the muscles right (how they bend, flex etc)
2. I can draw a face/hand/foot/whatever pretty well
3. I CAN NOT draw a person proportionally correct without a reference:

a. I mean by stick figure something like this:


b. But I have trouble turning it into this:


4. I should probably go buy a book on anatomt, I guess.

[This message has been edited by counterfeitbacon (edited 10-18-2002).]

Ya... or hang out at the morgue for a while.

Whoa... for a second there I thought I had stumbled into a thread about starving artists...

CFB: Yes, we know what you mean. We knew what you meant the first time.

Perhaps you don't like the answers? Well...you got good answers to your question.

to recap:

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Aside from that, the single most important thing is OBSERVATION.

Sit at the mall, or at the park, and sketch people you see. Note the way bodies move, the angles and proportions with which thngs bend and twist, etc.

Find photos of swimsuit models or body builders to draw...

"Tutorials" aren't what you need. Lot's of time to practice, learn as much as can about human anatomy, and simply observe from real life is what will do it.

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You get to that point by doing lots of practice, study, and observation of real life examples.

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Any good 'anatomy for artists' type of book will include many things on proportion. Only practice and observation will allow you to apply that knowledge properly.

Study
Observe
Practice.

Can we get that posted on the front door? Anyone?



[This message has been edited by DL-44 (edited 10-18-2002).]

Ok, I ordered Drawing Dynamic Anatomy, which I (Read) was a pretty good book, thanks a lot!

hehehe...starving artists...

"Practice" seems to have been reiterated. If you have the basic form down, which it appears you do, smoothing the lines down into a real-looking human figure isn't too much farther down the path. It takes A LOT of time and repetition to do it without a photographic or live reference. My older sister's been drawing for the better part of 30 years now, so she seems to be able to do this almost automatically. I, on the other hand, still have to look at a photo in order to get it right.
It just takes a great deal of time and effort and practice.

That's probably not quite the answer you want... Wouldn't it be nice if PS had a filter for that?

Yes it would (bohdi)...Thanks for the advice everybody!

I'd be really intersted to see some of your drawings, CFB. Not enough (infact barely any) people show traditional stuff around here. It'd be a welcome change.

Hopefully, with my next paycheck (I ref for the Junior Soccer League in our district), I'll have $100, then I can buy a scanner. Actually, my original incentive was to touch up my work, as I have no intention of coloring it. Ever.

http://www.fineart.sk/anat.htm

Excellent link Warj. Thnx.

emmmmmmmmmmm...

fine arts 101...(that is if i'm grasping the thrust of this thread..)

and i can't believe your teachers didn't tell you this silly stuff

find your perfect body...

have that person extend fingers....touch their thumb to chin and touch their pinkie to their hair line

remember this measurement...

it's always the same..(well for most people)

now...measure your foot...should be the same..BIG BABY BIG

measure the bottom of your foot to knee..in hands.....measure the hand to the elbow..measure the knee to the thigh..take notes...

You got it..now make it...all the measurements are as the hand is to them in thirds or seconds...honest...

to clarify if you didn't catch it..you thumb to middle finger exended should be , face same as hand..foot same as hand face same as hand..all other limbs and torso in relation to the thumb and middle finger extended...it's normally all the same stuff...thirds and seconds...

does this make sense?

*suddenly has a vision of everyond doing this in unison*