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Milan
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posted posted 06-07-2003 01:05

i need settings for LPI 150 and 175 [example adjusment, sharpnes, levels....], can anyone help me please?
thanks and sorry about my English.

jstuartj
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Mpls, MN
Insane since: Dec 2000

posted posted 06-07-2003 02:23

You will need to be a little more specfic as to what you are trying to acheive.

Are you refering to LPI (lines per inch) Correctly? LPI should have little effect on the image it's self other then perhaps dot gain, max density, or to calulating optinum image resolution required. LPI is simply a measure of halftone dot size on an imagesetter or platemaker. It is not a measure of image resolution like PPI (Pixels Per Inch) or the miss used DPI (Dots per inch). Image resolution dose have an effect on matrix operation or filters such as sharpening and blurs.

Example: Sharpeing a 800x800px image would require half the setting required to achieve the same effect on a 400x400px image.

Note: DPI (dots per inch) is sometime interchanged with PPI, while this is correct in some circles the perfered method is PPI (PPI per inch) DPI is an old term used to define the cells or dots that make up the halftone dots of an imagesetter. Which is why you spec a job on the imagesetter as 150lpi at 2400dpi.

There are no standard setting for adjustments, everything depends on the image and it's intended output device. One could define a basic catch all setting that would work ok on most image, based on specfic file sizes, input device, and output device. I would extensive testing to see what works best for you and you workflow.

I have worked in catalog publishing, printing gravure and offset presses printing following SWOP standards.

For basic shapening I like to start with USM, at about 150-175, radius 1 pixel and a threshold of 0-3. I either sharpening just the L channel in while in LAB mode, or if the image comes as a CYMK, I sharpen it and then fade the effect using Edit>Fade, setting the blend mode to luminosity. The basicly the rule I uses is to sharpen till I think it is enough on screen and the bump the sharpeing up 10% -15% as screen will always look sharper on screen then it ever will on the print.

For more advanced or problematic images I use a method similar to following sometimes called the highpass sharpening method.

http://www.creativepro.com/story/feature/12189-2.html

As for Levels, adjustmets, and etc... I couldn't begin to tell you what you need to know, it depends completely on your output device and what you wish to acheive.

If you what to know more, I would check out the following book:

Professional Photoshop, By Dan Margulis; Its the best book ever written on prepress and color correction for print on the market. I made it requried reading to my staff. It's a book all Designers, Production artist, and Art directors should read it before ever preparing work for print.

J. Stuart J.

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Milan
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

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Insane since: Jun 2003

posted posted 06-07-2003 03:14

ok thx :]
when i finish picture editing [on monitor] to ensure that is ready for press i need information that i menson before [i heard that there is some extra settings for best results for press depending on LPI]
do u know these settings or have u some cool site insead?
thx again

jstuartj
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Mpls, MN
Insane since: Dec 2000

posted posted 06-07-2003 06:17

My guess is you are refering to the conversion from RGB to CYMK. Something which needs to be tuned for each press and workflow. This is not something that should not be treat ligthly, as the wrong setting could produce unaceptable results and prove problematic on press.

If you don't know who the printer is or the method is printing, keep the image RGB or LAB until that information is known. [There is one exception, images already CYMK, not be converted back to RGB or LAB when at all possiable. ] Some print vendor may even wish to perform the CMYK for you. That way they can insure the best quality of targeted for their process.

I provided some spec's from a few printer I have used. They will not apply directly to your printer vendor but should at least provide you with an Idea what to ask for.

Quad Graphics; Huge International Printer, see: Prior to Press - Imaging section.
http://www.qg.com/index.asp?l=prods

Banta [Catalog Group], See: FAQ and Spec http://www.bantacatalog.com/prep/prepress/

North Print Inc; See: Tips and Checklist PDF files. http://www.northprint.com/

Here are some additional sites, with general info on prepress and DTP.
http://www.dtp-aus.com http://www.creativepro.com http://www.artistdesignerjobs.com/printing.html

Also try equipment vendores like Adobe, Quark, Agfa, Dupont, Creo and Kodak. They make up the majority of equipment. Many have white papers and Guides thou skewed toward their partiular equipment.

I can't stress enough, talk to your printer! A printer worth using should have a prepress specialist or someone willing to help. I will save them time, problems, and money fixing problems. If not find a differnet printer or have them call me, as I am out of work and could use work.

J. Stuart J.


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