Preserved Topic: Script check (Page 1 of 1)

I was somewhat torn as to which forum to post this in (DHTML/Javascript and All Browsers Suck were the other main contenders).

I need to check whether my server-side scripts are working for all browsers.

I've put together a few placeholder pages, and tested it with IE5, NS4, and NS3. Could I get some of you with different browsers to check it and post your results?
www.daveingram.com/mcp0001.php3

What I need is:
A: Does the page look ok. Not design-wise (it's just a placeholder), but do the links show up on the left, and the content (such as it is) centered towards the top of the body area?

B: View source, and confirm that the comment ("Browser detected") correctly identifies your browser. Note that I'm only detecting IE and NetScape at this time; all other browsers should show up as "Other".
I'd also appreciate it if people with Macintosh browsers and non-IE-non-NS browsers (i.e. Opera) could post the strings that show up after "Browser ID string:".

Thanks! <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">

Works fine, IE 5.0 win 98

Spot on for IE 5.5 on Win ME





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correct me if im wrong here.. but why would a serverside script be dependant on a browser? isnt that all controlled by the server? i use the same php script on my webpage (im pretty sure its the same).

You're right about that, the only thing that would be different is the browser detection. He needs to make sure it's detecting the different types of browsers correctly. The page layout should work right everywhere, though.

No probs on IE5 Mac, NS4.7 Mac, and even Mozilla M17 Mac.

too lazy to uninstall ie4 to see if it works in ie3 (or even ie2, but no one uses that). returned the correct browser info in ie4, though.

True, but since its generated on the fly, he's gotta make sure it follows all the peculiarities needed in tables to make it work on various browsers. Of course, it's pretty simple right now, but if any kind of interface get's added it might need a little modification. In the template anyway (if it's embedded in the code that is).

Yeah, the serverside script is gonna spit different code to different browsers (especially the DHTML, since IE and NS DHTML is so different), so I'm wanting to make sure that the browser detect is rock solid.

Thanks for all the responses <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/smile.gif">

Edit: Oh, and I wanted to make sure it looked ok in all the browsers (especially Opera and such) becuase this is close to the 'minimum' interface that I'll be using for pre-v4 browsers (except I'll be adding real graphics, of course <img border=0 align=absmiddle src="http://www.ozones.com/forum/wink.gif">.
I already fixed a few Netscape-specific problems with the original plain-vanilla HTML.

[This message has been edited by Das (edited 01-09-2000).]

When I tell Opera 4.01 to identify as Opera I get this:

<!--Browser detected: Other-->
<!--Browser ID string: "Opera/4.01 (Windows 98; U) [en]"-->
<!--DHTML not available. Using tables for formatting-->

When I tell Opera to identify as Mozilla 5.0 I get this:

<!--Browser detected: Netscape (pre-v3.x)-->
<!--Browser ID string: "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 98; U) Opera 4.01 [en]"-->
<!--DHTML not available. Using tables for formatting-->

When I tell Opera to identify as MSIE 5.0 I get this:

<!--Browser detected: Internet Explorer 5.x-->
<!--Browser ID string: "Mozilla/4.01 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98) Opera 4.01 [en]"-->
<!--DHTML available, but using tables for formatting at this time-->

Kind of strange because Opera can handle DHTML. It's not the greatest at it, but it can do it as long as it's not too tricky. Hmmm...

Anyways, I hope this helps.

Am I the only Opera user here?

Addendum: It look fine to me. Nothing screwy at all.


[This message has been edited by warjournal (edited 01-09-2000).]

I guess you are Warjournal. Im not home now but where can I download it later? Ive never used it before. The only thing I know about it is that its smaller then internet explorer and navigator ...

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Thanks, warjournal. I was wanting to get some Opera id strings specifically. The pre-NS3 is a glitch in my browser detect. I specifically excluded NS version 5 because there isn't a NS version 5. I didn't consider something might be emulating it.

Oh, and the "DHTML not available" is just my decision at this time. I know Opera can handle it, but I have no references on DHTML under Opera, so I'm gonna treat Opera as a non-DHTML browser for now.

Simple enough.
http://www.opera.com/download/index.html

File Size:
1.84 MB Standard
9.29 MB With Java

I have opted for NO Java. I have no real reason to have it. If I do, I still have those "other" browsers.

What I love. Hmm... user CSS with one click. Great for nasty color schemes that abound on private sites. Turn off image loading with one click. Great when I'm browsing for just information and don't want eye-candy graphics. The zoom feature is handy, too. The new print preview feature is one of the best I've seen. Multiple windows and not new instances -- love this feature to death. The built-in e-mail client is damn handy (there is also a built-in newsreader, but I've never used it). All that for 1.94 MG? Hell yeah! And it loads quick, too.

When/if you get it, hit F11 and see what happens. How's that for full-screen?

The list goes on and on for me. Read the features: http://www.opera.com/features.html.

Das, I can also tell Opera to identify as Mozilla 4.73 and Mozilla 3.0. I don't know if it will behave as those, but it can be identified as such.

BTW, I'm not getting paid for my endorement. But maybe I should charge for Opera viewed document consultations...

Hmmm, while this sounds like a good browser, I don't want to have to make my pages three-way compatible... *sigh*...

Well I just started downloading Opera ... damn it has a slow server. How many people actually use this browser? Ive heard of a few but do you guys think its worth making websites compatible in it?

I loaded Opera about a year ago. It just got too much to worry about using three browsers regularly to check on compatibility issues. I gave up and just stuck with the big two. But this thread is tempting me to at least get the latest version and see how it handles my dHTML toys.

wtf? i have to pay for opera? you have got to be joking me. they expect people to pay for opera when they can get ie and ns absolutely free? what a turn off.