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u-neek Bipolar (III) Inmate From: Berlin, Germany Insane since: Jan 2001	posted 01-13-2001 00:38 it is not my site, but would you be so kind to tell me your opinions? www.derBauer.de ---- All those who believe in psychokinesis raise my hand.
Slime Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist From: Massachusetts, USA Insane since: Mar 2000	posted 01-13-2001 01:03 Woah, that's cool...
taxon Neurotic (0) Inmate Newly admitted	posted 01-13-2001 01:30 Yes, it is kinda cool. I checked that out a little less than a month ago after a friend of mine told me about it.
Jestah Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: Long Island, NY Insane since: Jun 2000	posted 01-13-2001 04:09 Wow, havent seen that layout before. Yea its a nice site. The buttons on it could be better but aside from that its nice ...
JKMabry Maniac (V) Inmate From: out of a sleepy funk Insane since: Aug 2000	posted 01-13-2001 05:31 <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>B_PORTAL - FLASH 5</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgcolor="#000000"> <CENTER> <OBJECT classid="clsid 27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://active.macromedia.com/flash2/cabs/swflash.cab#version=4,0,0,0" ID=B_PORTAL2 WIDTH=768 HEIGHT=400> <PARAM NAME=movie VALUE="http://www.cybet.de/B_PORTAL2.swf"> <PARAM NAME=menu VALUE=false> <PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=best> <PARAM NAME=bgcolor VALUE=#000000> <EMBED src="http://www.cybet.de/B_PORTAL2.swf" menu=false quality=best bgcolor=#000000 WIDTH=768 HEIGHT=400 TYPE="application/x-shockwave-flash" PLUGINSPAGE="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash"> </EMBED> </OBJECT> </CENTER> </BODY> </HTML> Now that's some brilliant coding Pretty cool, I like. I think it's ironic though that people using wysiwyg editors get slammed or encouraged to hand code when Flash guys get "cool!" I guess the Flash stuff is usually cool and the wysiwyg usually ain't. Ironic nonetheless. My favorite old German saying? The dumbest farmer grows the biggest potatoes. edit: disable slimies in code [This message has been edited by JKMabry (edited 01-13-2001).]
Allgood Bipolar (III) Inmate From: Vannas Sweden Insane since: Jan 2001	posted 01-13-2001 14:55 I really like that alot. Great job. Allgood
heddaLettis Bipolar (III) Inmate From: solitary confinement Insane since: Aug 2000	posted 01-13-2001 18:36 Am I the only one that thinks Flash is the absolute biggest waste of bandwidth on the Planet? To me, Flash intro pages just flat out SUCK. I'm interested in design, yet 9 out of 10 times I bail on the never-ending "Loading" image. I mean come on, if you were watching the tube and the show faded out to a commercial and you were hit with 3 minutes of blackscreen with an image saying "loading" would you change the channel or what? I see Flash as useful for : 1) Operating IN TANDEM with the other aspects of a page in a small, subtle way that takes relatively zero load time, and: 2) Banner ads. That's it.
Slime Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist From: Massachusetts, USA Insane since: Mar 2000	posted 01-13-2001 20:21 Nah, I think flash is good. Now and then I want to see some flashy (no pun intended) stuff. Of course, I don't like it when it's used more than is necessary; there are sites that are made entire in flash, but don't have to be to acheive the effects they acheive. It's cool, but should be used in moderation.
heddaLettis Bipolar (III) Inmate From: solitary confinement Insane since: Aug 2000	posted 01-13-2001 22:52 I dunno, it just seems to me that 99.9% of Flash in use today is useless. Unless you count the "That's cool" factor....which means zilch-o to me. Same goes for splash pages. That doesn't mean I'm not going to learn it , because I am (seems every ad wants you to know flash) However, I intend to use it as an aid only, and most definitely NOT a focal point. You know, it's a strange World. Everyne is yelling for "clean" designs, fast loading pages, easy navigation, etc... Then they want to bog down their pages with Flash. Go figure. BTW- You ever tried to back out of a Flash intro? You'd have an easier time doing self root canal. [This message has been edited by heddaLettis (edited 01-13-2001).]
mahjqa Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: The Demented Side of the Fence Insane since: Aug 2000	posted 01-13-2001 23:51 HeddaLettis, you're TOTALLY right. altho I think that 99.5% is useful (it ain't THAT bad.) >>biggest waste of bandwidth on the Planet? I'm on 56k and I pay my own phone bill. So guess... YES IT IS.
Jestah Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: Long Island, NY Insane since: Jun 2000	posted 01-14-2001 18:08 Personally I don't mind Flash when its done right. There a lot of sites that just look awesomely cool with flash, others just look bad. Either way, whether these other sites use flash or not, if there bad, chances are I'm not staying long. Besides Im on a suped up cable modem and the most I ever wait at the "loading" screen is a few seconds (very rarely that too)

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u-neek
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Berlin, Germany
Insane since: Jan 2001

posted 01-13-2001 00:38

it is not my site, but would you be so kind to tell me your opinions?
www.derBauer.de

----

All those who believe in psychokinesis raise my hand.

Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted 01-13-2001 01:03

Woah, that's cool...

taxon
Neurotic (0) Inmate
Newly admitted

posted 01-13-2001 01:30

Yes, it is kinda cool. I checked that out a little less than a month ago after a friend of mine told me about it.

Jestah
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Long Island, NY
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted 01-13-2001 04:09

Wow, havent seen that layout before. Yea its a nice site. The buttons on it could be better but aside from that its nice ...

JKMabry
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: out of a sleepy funk
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted 01-13-2001 05:31

<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE>B_PORTAL - FLASH 5</TITLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgcolor="#000000">
<CENTER>
<OBJECT classid="clsid 27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"
codebase="http://active.macromedia.com/flash2/cabs/swflash.cab#version=4,0,0,0"
ID=B_PORTAL2 WIDTH=768 HEIGHT=400>
<PARAM NAME=movie VALUE="http://www.cybet.de/B_PORTAL2.swf">
<PARAM NAME=menu VALUE=false>
<PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=best>
<PARAM NAME=bgcolor VALUE=#000000>
<EMBED src="http://www.cybet.de/B_PORTAL2.swf"
menu=false
quality=best
bgcolor=#000000
WIDTH=768 HEIGHT=400
TYPE="application/x-shockwave-flash" PLUGINSPAGE="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/index.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash">
</EMBED>
</OBJECT>
</CENTER>
</BODY>
</HTML>

Now that's some brilliant coding
Pretty cool, I like.
I think it's ironic though that people using wysiwyg editors get slammed or encouraged to hand code when Flash guys get "cool!" I guess the Flash stuff is usually cool and the wysiwyg usually ain't. Ironic nonetheless.

My favorite old German saying? The dumbest farmer grows the biggest potatoes.

edit: disable slimies in code

[This message has been edited by JKMabry (edited 01-13-2001).]

Allgood
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Vannas Sweden
Insane since: Jan 2001

posted 01-13-2001 14:55

I really like that alot. Great job.

Allgood

heddaLettis
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: solitary confinement
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted 01-13-2001 18:36

Am I the only one that thinks Flash is the absolute biggest waste of bandwidth on the Planet?

To me, Flash intro pages just flat out SUCK.

I'm interested in design, yet 9 out of 10 times I bail on the never-ending "Loading" image. I mean come on, if you were watching the tube and the show faded out to a commercial and you were hit with 3 minutes of blackscreen with an image saying "loading" would you change the channel or what?

I see Flash as useful for :

1) Operating IN TANDEM with the other aspects of a page in a small, subtle way that takes relatively zero load time, and:

2) Banner ads.

That's it.

Slime
Lunatic (VI) Mad Scientist

From: Massachusetts, USA
Insane since: Mar 2000

posted 01-13-2001 20:21

Nah, I think flash is good. Now and then I *want* to see some flashy (no pun intended) stuff. Of course, I don't like it when it's used more than is necessary; there are sites that are made entire in flash, but don't *have* to be to acheive the effects they acheive. It's cool, but should be used in moderation.

heddaLettis
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: solitary confinement
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted 01-13-2001 22:52

I dunno, it just seems to me that 99.9% of Flash in use today is useless. Unless you count the "That's cool" factor....which means zilch-o to me.

Same goes for splash pages.

That doesn't mean I'm not going to learn it , because I am (seems every ad wants you to know flash)

However, I intend to use it as an aid only, and most definitely NOT a focal point.

You know, it's a strange World. Everyne is yelling for "clean" designs, fast loading pages, easy navigation, etc...

Then they want to bog down their pages with Flash. Go figure.

BTW- You ever tried to back out of a Flash intro? You'd have an easier time doing self root canal.

[This message has been edited by heddaLettis (edited 01-13-2001).]

mahjqa
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: The Demented Side of the Fence
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted 01-13-2001 23:51

HeddaLettis, you're TOTALLY right. altho I think that 99.5% is useful (it ain't THAT bad.)

>>biggest waste of bandwidth on the Planet?

I'm on 56k and I pay my own phone bill. So guess... YES IT IS.

Jestah
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Long Island, NY
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted 01-14-2001 18:08

Personally I don't mind Flash when its done right. There a lot of sites that just look awesomely cool with flash, others just look bad. Either way, whether these other sites use flash or not, if there bad, chances are I'm not staying long. Besides Im on a suped up cable modem and the most I ever wait at the "loading" screen is a few seconds (very rarely that too)