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Darkshadow Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: Insane since: Jan 2001	posted 06-25-2002 16:00 -- If this is in the wrong place please move it to somewhere better -- .... In finding what?s wrong. Right I got my re design for my site reviewed here a week ago in the site review forum and it all works fine now but you nice guys only tested it on a PC (which I don't blame you for doing). I got it reviewed some where else and they tested it on a MAC and it's all over the place in IE, but not modzilla or NS, and I don't know why. -- Site here -- I?m on a mac now (at college) trying to figure what's wrong with it and why it so fu*ked up in IE, which I thought all things worked in fine in. It's the whole layers thingy I think, because all the layers and some tables appear all messed up in IE. I have got modzilla and it works fine, so any ideas why it's such a mess on the MAC IE? Any ideas why it's so messed in IE? If no one can help it means pulling it down and remaking it . Dam this has made me learn to test fully before releasing it world wide, dran it!! :P
WebShaman Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: Happy Hunting Grounds... Insane since: Mar 2001	posted 06-25-2002 16:45 Hmmm...I think you may be correct in that (it's in the wrong forum)...and I don't have a Mac, so I can't really test it. At the moment though, I'll let it stand (because I am also curious as to where the problem may lie). So, anyone have IE on a Mac? Or experience with HTML coding on the IE Mac version? I think I may do a google search on this one...maybe it will turn something up...have you tried that?
Darkshadow Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: Insane since: Jan 2001	posted 06-25-2002 17:47 Thanks WebShaman, It a werid problem it works fine on PC, in NS, Modzilla, opera,etc and it's works fine on a mac, in modzilla, opera (exsept the on click load image, which I stumed by too), but in IE it's just a dam right mess. And most of the poeple how will look at the work will or might use a mac (creative industy=mac in most cases) so I wipe out most of my users. Darn it it really geting on my head this !!! arrrggghh.. I think I'll be learning a BIG FAT lesson from this design!!!
WebShaman Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: Happy Hunting Grounds... Insane since: Mar 2001	posted 06-25-2002 18:29 Hmmm...have you tried doing a google search on this?
Darkshadow Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: Insane since: Jan 2001	posted 06-25-2002 18:51 WS: Yep That is what I've been doing all this afternoon at college and will done now as I'm at home. I have some ideas but it will still look a mess in IE on a mac ...hhmmm.... puzzling this is?. -- DS --
WebShaman Maniac (V) Mad Scientist From: Happy Hunting Grounds... Insane since: Mar 2001	posted 06-25-2002 21:22 Here DS, I found this http://developer.apple.com/internet/html/doctype.html . I think it may be the solution to your problem...pretty interesting read, really. Hope that helps...if it does, do I get a cookie?
kuckus Bipolar (III) Inmate From: Berlin (almost) Insane since: Dec 2001	posted 06-25-2002 21:38 Hey, I didn't know that Apple had these Developer articles on their site, they look helpful. Thanks for the link, WS! I'll get you a cookie as soon as I recall where I put all these door keys (of which I need three to get back into my cell) I collected over the months, promised! kuckus (cell #282)
Darkshadow Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: Insane since: Jan 2001	posted 06-25-2002 21:46 weee I learn something new again , Don't know if that will work but I never new that you can have some control over how a browser renders things. hhmmm I have to do more reading on it first and then implant it and test it. Thanks WS, I try it if not I'm doomed and will have to re think it. Rule one try and learn as much as you can before making a complex creation [Edit - kuckus: yes apple do developer (they have all sorts it just that you have to dig for it) I have been looking over it all day looking for something that can help with this IE mess] -- DS -- [This message has been edited by Darkshadow (edited 06-25-2002).]
Darkshadow Paranoid (IV) Inmate From: Insane since: Jan 2001	posted 06-25-2002 22:19 So after some reading here, I think I should try this doc type: code: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> And see how that goes? Any one here with a mac that can just do a test later sometime when I ca't it all together? Also, Good god I did there WDG HTML Validator, wee so many fu*k ups there have a look, that's dreamwaver for ya. Man that is a mess if it's HTML 4.01 Transitional. Oh darn it why can't you all use mozilla? please....pretty please, hehe ------ Edit below ------ If your on a mac can you test this pages and tell me which one (if any) redeners the best in IE? Compare the ones below with this - -no doc type- HTML 4 trans doc type HTML 4 strict doc type HTML 4 lose doc type HTML 3 doc type Thanks -- DS -- [This message has been edited by Darkshadow (edited 06-25-2002).]

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Darkshadow
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Jan 2001

posted 06-25-2002 16:00

-- If this is in the wrong place please move it to somewhere better --

.... In finding what?s wrong.

Right I got my re design for my site reviewed here a week ago in the site review forum and it all works fine now but you nice guys only tested it on a PC (which I don't blame you for doing). I got it reviewed some where else and they tested it on a MAC and it's all over the place in IE, but not modzilla or NS, and I don't know why.

-- Site here --

I?m on a mac now (at college) trying to figure what's wrong with it and why it so fu*ked up in IE, which I thought all things worked in fine in.

It's the whole layers thingy I think, because all the layers and some tables appear all messed up in IE. I have got modzilla and it works fine, so any ideas why it's such a mess on the MAC IE?

Any ideas why it's so messed in IE? If no one can help it means pulling it down and remaking it .

Dam this has made me learn to test fully before releasing it world wide, dran it!! :P

WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted 06-25-2002 16:45

Hmmm...I think you may be correct in that (it's in the wrong forum)...and I don't have a Mac, so I can't really test it. At the moment though, I'll let it stand (because I am also curious as to where the problem may lie). So, anyone have IE on a Mac? Or experience with HTML coding on the IE Mac version?

I think I may do a google search on this one...maybe it will turn something up...have you tried that?

Darkshadow
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Jan 2001

posted 06-25-2002 17:47

Thanks WebShaman,

It a werid problem it works fine on PC, in NS, Modzilla, opera,etc and it's works fine on a mac, in modzilla, opera (exsept the on click load image, which I stumed by too), but in IE it's just a dam right mess. And most of the poeple how will look at the work will or might use a mac (creative industy=mac in most cases) so I wipe out most of my users.

Darn it it really geting on my head this !!! arrrggghh..

I think I'll be learning a BIG FAT lesson from this design!!!

WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted 06-25-2002 18:29

Hmmm...have you tried doing a google search on this?

Darkshadow
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Jan 2001

posted 06-25-2002 18:51

WS: Yep That is what I've been doing all this afternoon at college and will done now as I'm at home.

I have some ideas but it will still look a mess in IE on a mac ...hhmmm.... puzzling this is?.

-- DS --

WebShaman
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
Insane since: Mar 2001

posted 06-25-2002 21:22

Here DS, I found this http://developer.apple.com/internet/html/doctype.html . I think it may be the solution to your problem...pretty interesting read, really.

Hope that helps...if it does, do I get a cookie?

kuckus
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Berlin (almost)
Insane since: Dec 2001

posted 06-25-2002 21:38

Hey, I didn't know that Apple had these Developer articles on their site, they look helpful. Thanks for the link, WS!

I'll get you a cookie as soon as I recall where I put all these door keys (of which I need three to get back into my cell) I collected over the months, promised!

kuckus (cell #282)

Darkshadow
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Jan 2001

posted 06-25-2002 21:46

weee I learn something new again ,

Don't know if that will work but I never new that you can have some control over how a browser renders things. hhmmm I have to do more reading on it first and then implant it and test it.

Thanks WS, I try it if not I'm doomed and will have to re think it.

*Rule one try and learn as much as you can before making a complex creation *

[Edit - kuckus: yes apple do developer (they have all sorts it just that you have to dig for it) I have been looking over it all day looking for something that can help with this IE mess]

-- DS --

[This message has been edited by Darkshadow (edited 06-25-2002).]

Darkshadow
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From:
Insane since: Jan 2001

posted 06-25-2002 22:19

So after some reading here, I think I should try this doc type:

code:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">

And see how that goes? Any one here with a mac that can just do a test later sometime when I ca't it all together?

Also, Good god I did there WDG HTML Validator, wee so many fu*k ups there have a look, that's dreamwaver for ya. Man that is a mess if it's HTML 4.01 Transitional.

Oh darn it why can't you all use mozilla? please....pretty please, hehe

------ Edit below ------

If your on a mac can you test this pages and tell me which one (if any) redeners the best in IE?

Compare the ones below with this - -no doc type-
HTML 4 trans doc type
HTML 4 strict doc type
HTML 4 lose doc type
HTML 3 doc type

Thanks

-- DS --

[This message has been edited by Darkshadow (edited 06-25-2002).]