Preserved Topic: Re-education of BlackSoulSunday (Page 2 of 2)

My God, what have I done?! I take it back, no group hug! Please, just stop the carnage! *sob*

Tyberius, thanks for the info. I think I'll check out the DMCA.

Emperor: that was exactly what I was talking about when I said "procedure." Looks like a good addition to a future FAQ (along with the info on group hugs--if only I had known!)

Has anybody else gotten a response from Yahoo!? They still haven't written back...and what is the 'normal' time-frame for such things? Anybody know? Been thinking of calling them...

well, Webshaman, if you happend to use the magic word DMCA in your mail, you should expect an answer, or an action in a rather short period of time (ie. 2, max 3 days, I guess. I'm too lazy to look it up).
But then, they might just want to get sued for copyright infringment..

so long,

Tyberius Prime

*sigh* Guess I'll have to send them another mail. Thanks for the heads up...

Well I haven't received anything either, but then they are a fairly large corporation.

-Jestah

VP - I'm very familiar with the concept (though I use a 3-meter cattle prod, myself), but that still doesn't explain how you grab someone's ass (or anything else, really) with a barge pole, regardless of length...

wel...the barge pole could have a large grabbing claw on the end, for getting rubbish out of low-down places

Hmmm...I didn't get a repsonse from yahoo either, but then again, I only just sent my mail

Anything else you guys want me to do?



Koan 63:
Those who Believe
Can
Those who Try
Do
Those who Love
Live

visited his site latley? read the guest book, I think he's making lots of posts there himself...under different names, but have a look at his shoutbox 'Shoutbox temporarly down due to assholes'

oh, I love it

oh...and there could have been any number of posts in his guestbook telling him what a fuck wit he is, but he blocked all of them...even my nicely workeded one didn't get through, and gaddamn the music on his site gets annoying after about 10 seconds


Koan 63:
Those who Believe
Can
Those who Try
Do
Those who Love
Live

[This message has been edited by Skaarjj (edited 04-29-2002).]

Just got the word from another forum that they have decided that BSS is a ripper...another victory. I am waiting for an answer to see if I am allowed to post the mail reply here. If so, then I will post it. If not, then I will not. I have learned to respect the privacy of other forums a bit through this.

However, the battle goes on...I think that BSSs name as a ripper on the net is slowly getting out...just gotta love that.

For those still interested, I suggest checking out www.3dcafe.com for 'ripping' of 3d models. I will be looking into it today...I really love this shit...taking him down the hard way...just check out this thread http://www.neofrog.com/thePAD/viewtopic.php?t=2120 . Doesn't it just bring tears to your eyes? The evidence is plain to see, and it is nice to know that other forums out there don't like rippers, either. BSS is goin' down...crash and burn, baby!

~I just love it when a plan comes together...~

[This message has been edited by WebShaman (edited 04-30-2002).]

Yeah!!! BSS has taken down his 'Introspect' that he ripped from websource....ain't my tomahawk gettin' a workout? Well, we will see what else I can find...I love tearing apart his site...piece by piece...

It's official, man--you are having way too much fun with that tomahawk.

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

Been a hectic week and a half, so I did this to relax. Just a quick hack, so I didn't feel like doing a lot of things proper. Funny thing is, I just might recycle some code from this quick project.

2% DW, can't seem to handle CSS and frames (go figure)
98% hand coded


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[This message has been edited by warjournal (edited 05-01-2002).]

BLAM!

*stands over warjournal's still warm body, blows smoke away from barrel of gun*

Feel better now?

Oh, by the way, I like it. Nifty colors and design. Clean and simple. Oops, wait, this isn't the site reviews forum...

[Edit: it's also better than the subject of the parody, in my opinion ]



[This message has been edited by Suho1004 (edited 05-01-2002).]

Lol!!! Man, that is great! Hahaha, can't stop laughing...

Oh I LOVE theway this guy works. His entire setup for his guestbook is rigged. The ocassional post on there is untanpered with, but the majority of the posts have his little additions or deletions, or some are completley written by him. Sit there adn read those posts for a while...see anything similar? Exactly same writing style, the two or three exclamation marks? have a look at the post by Gloop. That's the one I put on there. Pretty much it my original post, but the last two sentences were added by him...same writing style, same exclamation marks. He's running a little defamation campaign against us by falsifying records on his site...what to do...what to do



Koan 63:
Those who Believe
Can
Those who Try
Do
Those who Love
Live

No word from Yahoo, I guess? Whatever they decide to do, though, you can't deny that the perception of BSS on the net has been changed. The boy can rig his own guestbook and live in his fantasy world as long as he likes. The fact of the matter is that he is fighting a losing battle.





What does it mean?

quote:

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This is who the number belongs to
Editha Zervoulakos
380 N Sunrise Way
Palm Springs, CA 92262

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Jestah, where did you find that information?

oh wait never mind I was the one that posted all that domain information to start with

silly me, I have such a short memory...

quote:

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04.29..02...

Still up and Running...
Hey thanks for making a fool out of yourselves! Admit it, YOU ARE JEALOUS of my site!! you know who you are...

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replaces his introspect ...

-Jestah

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You know what also kills me about this? He advertises that he is a web design person and his clinets sees things like "Dumbass" and "Shit" and a lot of other cursing! Oh boy, you know I would hire him if I were a company considering him for a job!

Later,
C:\


~Binary is best~

Oh c'mon C:\, I think it's pretty clear that he's a teenage kid. He's not a professional or anything of the sort.

-Jestah

I did a little more tweaking to BSP. Made it a bit more "mine". Also implemented SSI. As a result, the new BSP is here. A few more things and I think I've got a winner. Then I can add a few more pages no prob, like a Disclaimer. If anybody does a parody of any of this "signature" pieces, send 'em my way and I'll post 'em (of course I will claim them as my own, heh).

Side Note: I also figured out why I've been having FTP problems lately. Few more days and Tech-Slop will be in a new home.

Heh, I wonder if Phong knows he's posting rave reviews in there these days. What is wrong with this guy? It's like he's trying to convince himself he's admirable or something. Pfft.

Got bored. Might have found his picture in a google search for his name. Said he was from Palm Springs.. looks about the age I'd expect. Eh. There was also a link to kimofrog.com in there that looked interesting but I get an "attempt to load failed" there.

Ha, looks like a poor little ****! No wonder he doesn't have any friends.

I guess Yahoo! doesn't give a damn...they haven't answered any of my mails...I think Yahoo! just got on my 'suckie' list...

Love the 'new and improved' BSP...

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

Now that is an Idea!!! The best sort of 'teaching' element, that Web-Designers could impliment. Just need to get the Meta tags right, and of course, the right 'links' from affiliates...oh man, that could really rock!!! Google search -> right under BSS...BSP! Now that is coolness...

I figured one way or anther I would be keeping BSP up -- either as blatant parody or something that is completely mine. Looks like you folks are liking the parody idea. I've got a few ideas to make it more blatant once I find some files that I was working some time ago. I did some great renders of a head with a stream/streaks of air blowing in one ear and swirling out the other. I hope I can find them. My only problem with doing a parody is Cheese Factor. I'm not really that good with Cheese.

I've already gotten one submission for the "sketches" area (you know who you are). I just about died laughing when I saw it. I hope to see more if any of you folks have the yarbles for it.



[This message has been edited by warjournal (edited 05-02-2002).]

Yes, definitely like the parody.

And the pic of BSS is no real surprise...





What does it mean?

FYI, I wrote to the owner of Digital Tropic (someone who links to BSS) and explained what's going on, with links to the previous, BSS-related topics so he could read and decide for himself. He seems like an upstanding graphics-type. Today, I got this reply:

"I haven't had the chance to read the material yet. Once I do I will make a decision on what I will do. I hope this isn't true. That really sucks when people do that type of thing. Anyway, thank you for the heads up and I will be looking into it soon."

Hopefully, once he reads these threads, he'll remove BSS' links from his site. I'll let everyone know what happens.




There are a lot of strange people in the world. I should know; I'm three of them...

Yeah...and hopefully he won't believe the posts in his guestbook...fucking liars..he's really getting me pissed off..playing around with my posts.

Koan 63:
Those who Believe
Can
Those who Try
Do
Those who Love
Live

Actually, I mentioned the altered guestbook entries as well...

Cool Wangy...then we've both been screwed with...



Koan 63:
Those who Believe
Can
Those who Try
Do
Those who Love
Live

I'm still LMAO at the guestbook entries.

I asked Ry (eyeball design) about the site. He's never even heard of it lol. I love how BSS attempts to boost his own ego by posing as others

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I made no mention of the previous one in this one, but I've sent another email off to Yahoo...they can't ignore us for ever.

here it is...anyone recon I've missed anything?

quote:

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Good Morning,

I am writing to inform you (as you undoubtedly already have been) about the activites of one of your domain subscribers, John Wycoco (a.k.a: BlackSoulSunday, DeltaV), owner of the domain http://www.blacksoulsunday.com . I am a member of the online community http://www.ozoneasylum.com , and we, among other have recently been the victims of John Wycoco and his illegal ripping habits. One example is:

This is an original graphics from LiquidSoft:



This is the ripped version by John Wycoco:



As can be seen here, John has simply taken the original image by LiquidSoft, lopped off the botom with it's embedded copyright, added a couple of filter modifications, and is now claiming it as his own, original work.

For more examples of John's ripping, I invite you to read these message threads at the Ozone Asylum:

What Do You think?

BSS The Ripper

Tnx 4 keeping my ratings up!

The last link there is of particular interest, because in it John all but admits what he's done, and is proud of it. We find behaviour such as this to be disrespectful, demeaning and, above all, blatantly illegal. He is violating the rights and priveleges of Artist as set out by international law, artist being defined as 'A person who creates an original work of Art'.

Not only has John perpetrated these crimes against artistic freedom, but he has also started a defamation campaign against the members of the Ozone Asylum who opposed him on his website. Following is a link to his guestbook.
http://pub.alxnet.com/guestbook?id=2255137

Inside this guestbook he appears to have public support for his activities, until you read further into each of the posts. From the time of our first discovery of his ripping, the actual number of friendly 'Your site is great!' posts has dropped significantly, however, this is not reflected in the outward face of his guestbook.

I invite you to examine the wording, writing style and little writing habits of most of the posts after that date...do you see a pattern? John Wycoco has been manufacturing posts in his guestbook in order to create an image on the internet of the Ozone Asylum members as people who are jealous of his skills and talents. I would particularly direct your attention to a post made by someone under the alias of 'Gloop'. This is an example of one thing the John Wycoco does with any post that at all contradicts him or puts him into a bad light. I know Gloop, in fact I AM Gloop. I posted under that alias to try to ensure that my post went through. Instead, it has been edited by John, to appear that I am in fact supporting his site. The final two sentences of the post are not mine. They are not written in my style, the spelling is different, and it is grammatically imprecise. He uses the wrong adjective form for the word 'kick', it should be 'kicks', and as is evidenced by the rest of my post, I am a grammatically precise writer, and would never use the wrong adjective form in a situation such as this. Also, I am Australian, and so where he has written 'ass', I would never spell it that way, I would spell it 'arse', the way any Australian does. I do not have anything against the American spelling of the word, it makes sense too, but it is not the way I choose to do it.

Other patterns appear in his writing. Looking through the majority of the posts, we can see that he constantly uses two or three exclamation points in his writing, never one, and in the 'Gloop' post, this ring true as well. He has either entirley fabricated or edited other people's posts, even going so far as to post them under the names of
some of the leading figures in the internet graphics world. One example is Ry, of http://www.eyeball-design.com , there is apparently a post in the guestbook that SAYS it was posted by him, but in actual fact, Ry has no knowledge of the site, and would never support a ripper like John Wycoco. Another case is that of the post signed by 'Phong'. The website http://www.phong.com is owned by Anson Vogt and, as witness by the domain owner of http://www.ozoneasylum.com , Anson is very meticulous about signing anything he writes 'Anson', never 'Phong', so the appearance of a post signed 'Phong' is very suspicious.

I am writing this email to you, as another of our members, WebShaman, did to ask you to please remove your support from John Wycoco and to remove his site from the internet. You are his site host, and as such you have that power. It is my solemn hope that you will exercise this power in the near future.

Yours Sincerely,

Adrian Overbury
(Skaarjj)

http://www.ozoneasylum.com

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Do you recon that's good enough?

Koan 63:
Those who Believe
Can
Those who Try
Do
Those who Love
Live

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[This message has been edited by Skaarjj (edited 05-08-2002).]

Great letter, skaarjj. I am also persueing one of 'Johns' new affiliates...just sent him a mail (and I used your mail...it's very good, hope you don't mind...just included my name). His 'new' affiliate is Tyler Neal xplode@mail.com. Heh, no way I'm gonna let John off the hook...eventually he'll get fustrated enough...

the magic words DMCA are missing from your letter, Skaarjj.
The DMCA makes them liable for his copyrightinfringment as soon as they are informed of it... but allows them to just dump him and get out of the liability.
But I guess without anyone mentoning the Digital Millenium Copyright Act, they may claim not to have been aware of it...

so long,

Tyberius Prime

I think this deserves another thread...cause it just took me a while to load....I'll put my reply in the next one shall I?

Koan 63:
Those who Believe
Can
Those who Try
Do
Those who Love
Live