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silence
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: soon to be "the land down under"
Insane since: Jan 2001

posted posted 07-05-2001 19:42

Actually threep, in order to see the color, you'd need something to reflect it back to your eyes since you "see" is whatever hits the back of your eyeball and excites your photoreceptors.

Depending on what object was in front of you and its relative speed to you, you could get a red shift, a blue shift, or none at all.

But the light from your headlights would be whatever color light your headlamps emit. Trick question, eh?

mbridge
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist

From:
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 07-07-2001 05:52

Just a few thoughts:

At this point in time, there is only one scientifically accepted model for time travel. It involves opening a worm hole or spacial distortion, whatever. One end of the wormhole must be propelled at a speed approaching that of light, such that time slows in relation to the other end. Of course, we haven't even discovered the "black" matter needed to keep a wormhole open, nor have we directly witnessed one. However, assuming this scenario, a person could travel back in time by entering the stationary wormhole. Consequently, it is only possible to travel back in time to the point at which the wormhole was opened and accelerated.

It cannot be assumed that by travelling in time with this method, a person would maintain his or her consciousness, meaning that, if I were to travel in time, I would not maintain my current state of mind. Rather, I would enter my consciousness of the earlier time. For instance, any action that takes place in the past plays a part in creating the means for traveling in time. Therefore, if one travels back in time, it is impossible to act in any manner different from the original reality because it would not result in the reverse time travel. If this were not to take place, the current reality would be impossible. Thus, any action that does not cause the time travel to happen, is impossible. Therefore, it is completely pointless to travel in time, because you would merely be thrown into a past reality, without memory of the future.

Hope it makes sense, quite a difficult theory to explain.

Allewyn
Maniac (V) Mad Scientist

From: Solitary confinement
Insane since: Feb 2001

posted posted 07-07-2001 20:40

Ok time for the "dumb question": if I'm observing a star at a distance of 6 billion light-years away, am I looking into the present or the past? Relative to the star aren't I in the future? If I am, couldn't that be true of other races and couldn't they be traveling into the past to see us? Whew, my brain hurts.

kretsminky
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: A little lower... lower... ahhhhhh, thats the spot
Insane since: Jun 2000

posted posted 07-07-2001 22:54

You are looking at the light that started traveling to you from that star 6 billion years ago. So you are looking into the past in that sense but you aren't in the future as far as that star is concerned.

MalFunkShun
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: PA
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 07-09-2001 23:40

Just read every post in here and I have come up with my own theory. But it's not my own theory because I am sure someone else has said it before, or after, somewhere in time. I took a piece of everyones theory and now put them together added a few of my own ideas and here you have it "A TIME TRAVEL MARTINI w/ A TWIST"

I liked the idea of traveling along our past and future path in space to reach our planet relative to that time. The only problem with this is how can our planet be there if we just left it. You can't move matter because of the conservation of matter laws. Time will never stop, never slow down. 1 one-thousand, 2 one-thousand, 3 one-thousand will always take me the same amount of time to say it. So changing the speed of time is not possible.

But, Time Travel is. Lets say Earth moves along in space and a star traveling the same exact path ends its life and turns into a black hole. We travel from earth to this black hole and go through. Travel the same distance that it took you to travel to the black hole and you will find the past. You have entered a new demension. You land on earth and find that it is the exact time that the earth would have been at the position of the black hole. (give or take 5 years) I'm not good with physics
lemme draw a picture
-------------4yr travel------+----------4 yr travel
0(earth now)--------0(blackhole)--------0(earth then)
2002---------------------1950------------------1900
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< everything moving this way
This is because the universe and time as a whole continues to move the same direction, blackhole and all

Now we can also travel to different periods in time between that or exceeding that depending on speed.
Go slower then what we travel to the black hole and reach earth at a more recent date. We have allowed the earth to move past the blackhole point. Therefore later in time.
Move faster to earth then the speed we traveled to the black hole and go further into the past.
(wow this makes more sense to me now then when i started writing it) another picture to explain theory
-------------4 yr travel-------+-----1 yr travel
0(earth now)----------0(blackhole)---0(earth then)
2002---------------------1950--------------1935
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< same direction same speed

This theory also works with the future
Just reverse everything I have said and find a black hole in the coming path of our planet


All this must be timed perfectly and return to present is possible

If timed wrong once you are release from the black hole you may have our waiting sun right infront of you
Good Luck getting out of that gravitational pull
HOUSTIN WE HAVE A PROBLEM

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MalFunkShun
(i think it's broken)
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[This message has been edited by MalFunkShun (edited 07-09-2001).]

MalFunkShun
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: PA
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 07-09-2001 23:45

wow i read my own and imagine if we could move our whole planet into a blackhole
this may be a lifesaving theory if our sun was to ever fail us

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MalFunkShun
(i think it's broken)
.:!:..:!:..:!:..:!:..:!:..:!:.

MalFunkShun
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: PA
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 07-09-2001 23:48

i can't stop thinking

I know this needs to be revised alot
to get time and speed more acurrate
So please help me out
I'll share the wealth with everyone if this can be proven
LOL
yeah I'm a nut
glad i found the asylum

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MalFunkShun
(i think it's broken)
.:!:..:!:..:!:..:!:..:!:..:!:.

silence
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: soon to be "the land down under"
Insane since: Jan 2001

posted posted 07-10-2001 00:43

The problem with traveling into a black hole is that the gravity would rip you to shreds. The reason it's called a black hole is that theoretically, even light is affected by the immense gravity produced by the collapsed star.

Therefore, moving the earth or anything else into it would be suicide as the earth itself would probably end up the same size as a golfball.

Dhromed
Nervous Wreck (II) Inmate

From: Netherlands
Insane since: Jul 2001

posted posted 07-14-2001 00:45

Theoretically, it would end up the size of a dot. Black holes don't grow larger, only their event horizon expands.

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