Topic awaiting preservation: Belief in Paranormal (Page 3 of 3)

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Sangreal said:

Your may be a part of that web site's little club but I still don't see why ghosts cannot exist. Even after reading through the site. Don't get me wrong i do believe that a good amount of what is
shown on television is sensationalism but that doesn't mean they don't exist. Psychics definantly do NOT exist and niether do vampires or werewolves. The people who go around calling themselves such are just plain wacked out.

If one match can start a forest fire then why does it take the whole box to start a BBQ Grill?

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1. CSICOP isn't a Web site. The map is not the territory. It isn't "little" nor is it a "club."

2. What evidence gathered through scientific means do you possess to state with reasonably certainty that "ghosts exist" and "psychics, vampires, and werewolves do not exist?" You made the claim so now it's your responsibility to prove you're not a liar through scientific inquiry. Otherwise, you're just as credible as those "wacked out" sensationalists.

Laws of Nature: A Skeptic's Guide
Basic Differences Between a Pre-Scientific Orientation and a Scientific Orientation
Bridging the Chasm between Two Cultures by Karla McLaren



(Edited by metahuman on 08-09-2004 21:27)

look i don't have any scientific evidence that can hold up in a court of law or laboratory, all I am saying is that in my OPPINION ghosts do exist at some level. I do not think that Pyschics exist because I do not trust humans. ANYBODY can say ANYTHING. I say werewolves and vampires do because everytime somebody claims to be one it is for some really stupid reason or it is a hoax. I only believe that ghosts of some sort exist because of occurences that I can not find any other explanation for if somebody were to come to me and give me logical scientific explanations for those events I would accept those and move on. If you believe that they do not exist that is no reason to attack me. I will except that the CSICOP is not a website nor a club I was merely using those words to describe it as i couldn't think of any others. I never have thought that I am truly a credible source because i am human and all humans have some flaw at some degree. merely believe because of occurences and otherwise i find the world incredibly, dumb, dull, and otherwise a waste of time.

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Also,
Somebody's oppinions and beliefs don't make them a liar, if i were to say that it is a proven scientific fact that ghosts and other paranormal phenomenon exist then i would be lying. But I DIDN"T. And if i were you i would be careful on who you call a liar, you are to and if you want to go into semantics everybody is. The only reason i am offended by you calling me a liar and am 'up in arms about it' is that i am an Eagle Scout and also, as Gideon will collaberate this, I have gotten in more fights and scuffles than almost anybody that i know from off the internet because i told people the truth. So please tell me how am I a liar and you not?
While we are attacking people for their beliefs why don't i post a few more so you can ridicule me for those too:
*I believe in the father almighty and his only begotten son Jesus Christ who suffering under Pontius Pilot died for my sins, was crucified, died, and after three days rose again and ascended into heaven.

*I believe that if in WWII Hitler had not betrayed Stalin and got Russia to fight on his side that we would have lost.

*I believe that George Bush is a trigger happy, moronic, religious fanatic who is unfit for office.

*I believe that John Kerry is a lying bastard who doesn't deserve the war metals he got and is trying to decive the american public and is also unfit for office.

*I believe that it would be funny to see Nader come from behind and win this or any election due to the fact that both major party candidates are unfit for office.

*I believe that TRUE COMMUNISM was a good idea but can never and will never work.

*I believe what John Kerry's fellow vietnam bunkmates said on how Kerry doctored his war photos and is lying about his war actions.

*I believe that if what Kerry did truly doctor his photos and lied about his war actions than he should be punished for it severely.

*I believe that the theory that God created everything on earth and the Theory of Evolution can be combined into one single theory, cohesively.

*I believe that you have to take the bible literally but be able to know which stories are true and which are metaphors.
And I believe that if you had lived through some the experiances that I have you to would be open to believing that there is a possiblity that ghosts do exist at some level.
But what would i know none of that appears in a science book.

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I would like to apologize for the outburst and poor conduct in which I have controlled myself in my previous two statments I had been having a bad day already and when I accessed Ozone and saw that i was being called a liar and sensationalist I blew my top. As Gideon will confirm being called a these two things and insults against my grandfather are the only things that truly anger me.

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