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The fucking difference between cursing and and calling someone a whore. [Xpirex]

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Your Text: Insert Slimies » Insert UBB Code » Close Last Tag \| All Tags UBB Help	On one hand I've been a fan of Doc's "never ban anyone" approach. It was an important quality of this community which kept it different from other communities around the internet. On the other hand, there have been times when I've thought banning was necessary. Most of those times have involved people who continually (over and over and over) started new threads because they thought that their threads being locked or deleted was "censorship." I thought they should have been banned only because they were making it impossible for the community to function normally. There are people who have used strong language and even insults here in the past. I've often strongly disagreed with their approaches, but usually let it go because I knew that it wouldn't really matter one or two days later. I've been here since day one. I don't know that I've ever seen anyone use as strong of an insult as Xpirex did. But I don't know that I haven't, either. I've definitely seen insults, some by respected members. The reason I asked for the translation of Xpirex's comments was, honestly, that I wasn't sure whether they were really deserving of a ban. Once I learned the meaning, I didn't mind so much. Those are heavy words. Nonetheless, I have to admit that, a couple years ago, he would not have been banned for saying things like that. Undoubtedly it would have sparked a flame war, but that would probably have been contained to the single thread. Comments would be made such as "take it to email," and it may or may not have been. But in the long run, I think everyone would have been fine. Since we have different cultures, age groups, and backgrounds here, it's not unsurprising that some people would say things that they think are simple insults, or even teasing, while other people would take it as a reason for banning. I don't know how serious Xpirex thought his (her?) comments were, but I doubt he meant them to be taken as seriously as they were. Let me make an important point: The words Xpirex used were only slightly stronger than the ones Lacuna provoked him with. The primary difference was in how he used them (as adjectives towards Lacuna). I'm not sure if this was an obvious difference to Xpirex at the time he made the comments. Xpirex's comments were out of line and he obviously made no effort to control himself. I am surprised that he wasn't willing to apologize for them. I suspect that the only reason he hasn't is that he's angry about being banned. I would advise him to distinguish between apologizing for what he said and admitting that he should have been banned for it. After all, he said some pretty insulting things. I should also say that I hadn't noticed any similar comments by him in the past. I suppose I haven't been paying enough attention. With all that in mind, my conclusion is that I don't really think he should have been banned outright for his comments. He has been a member for some time now and has contributed at least a little, and this doesn't seem like something that couldn't have been worked out. At the same time, now that he has been banned, and conditions (in my opinion, fair ones) set forth for his unbanning, I think we should stick to our guns. I encourage Xpirex to apologize for Lacuna for what he said; though it was slightly provoked, Lacuna did not deserve insults like that. And if he apologizes honestly, I would hope Lacuna would accept it. Finally, I would like to see a little more restraint in the future regarding banning members. It's a dangerous thing to get into, especially considering how easy it is for someone to fake their IP, register new names, and wreak havoc. I think maybe we acted a little quickly - perhaps an opportunity for apologizing could have been given before banning. My two cents. [edit: Oh, and swearing in the thread title, while creative, doesn't exactly help anyone's cause.] [url=http://www.slimeland.com/] [img]http://www.slimeland.com/misc/ozonemetalslimesig.gif[/img] [/url] [small](Edited by [internallink=4]Slime[/internallink] on 06-28-2004 02:30)[/small] Loading...
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