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Arnitald
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Germany
Insane since: Apr 2004

posted posted 10-16-2004 19:51

I am just experimenting with vector art and this is what I have done until now.



For the image I plan to do I won't include the facial features and a lot of shadowing but I am interested to learn about the shadowing. You probably know how it is done. It looks like different levels of colored shapes... sort of a gradient. I would like to know what guides to use for drawing these shapes so it looks natural. I mean actually shaping the shapes the right way.

What is the right approach to shadowing in vectors?

(Edited by Arnitald on 10-16-2004 19:52)

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 10-16-2004 20:15
quote:
I would like to know what guides to use for drawing these shapes so it looks natural. I mean actually shaping the shapes the right way.



The 'guides' you use would be the same as you would use in any other type of artwork.

You have to understand where the shadow would lie....and make your shape accordingly.

Not really any more to it than that. Will very likely take some trial and error...

synax
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Cell 666
Insane since: Mar 2002

posted posted 10-16-2004 21:59

I'd like to know how you achieved that mesh effect.

"Nothin' like a pro-stabbin' from a pro." -Weadah

Arnitald
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Germany
Insane since: Apr 2004

posted posted 10-16-2004 22:23

She had that on her. It's made with a photo of course! It's soft light and lowered opacity. I was not able to select only the mesh, the quality is too low for it. And I have no idea how to create such thing in any graphics programm... If anybody does, it would be helpful though!

hyperbole
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Madison, Indiana, USA
Insane since: Aug 2000

posted posted 10-17-2004 20:11

This thread is getting kind of confusing: First you are asking about creating images with vector graphics, and now you tell us you started from a photo. Does that mean you scanned the photo and then used vectors to make the outlines?

Making the mesh would not be very hard in Photoshop.

Create a graphic, lets say 300 by 700.
Make a new layer with a transparent background.
Use the pencil or line tool to create a small square about 5x5 in the image.
Maka a selection around the square and save it as a pattern.
Use the pattern to fill the entire image.

Use the displacement filter to distort the grid to the shape of the girls legs
or any other shape you what to have the mesh over.

-- not necessarily stoned... just beautiful.

Arnitald
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Germany
Insane since: Apr 2004

posted posted 10-17-2004 21:49

I meant it is made with a stock image of course. I don't think anybody is just drawing it from the head.

So... I have found a stock photo of this model. Then I made an outline of black color. Then I went to the arms and drew vectors on them and so on. That is what I mean by making it from a photo. (You probably mean>by "vectorizing" applications like Flash, which can do it automatically based on the color leves and so on)

And to the mesh. This is obviously not a square mesh. I don't really know how hard it would be to create a correct displacement map for a leg and what I would end up with, would be with a rasterized mesh again. When I would want to create a mesh by not simply using the one from the stock photo, I would like to have it as vectors too. If that was possible I would like to know how.

What I have done is taking the part of the leg(bitmap), which has the mesh on it (the model does), setting the blending mode to soft light and lowering the opacity. This is also the reason why I have these shadows on it.

I hope everything is clear now.

Photo as a guide -> Vectors -> Question is about how to create shadows and/or what points of a photo to follow to create the shade vectors.

DarkGarden
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: in media rea
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted posted 10-18-2004 05:21

creating a vector mesh isn't impossible at all. Create your intersect patterns, create with outlines, use a mesh warp...start playing.

Sure it's intensive, but welcome to it.

As for "I don't think anybody is just drawing it from the head"...man you need to get out more.

Arnitald
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Germany
Insane since: Apr 2004

posted posted 10-18-2004 10:20

Well I have never seen one. (not in advertising or a gallery) I have many comic or similar vector stuff that is clearly made just like that. And thanks I clearly do not need any of the "man you should..." advice. An "I don't think" statement can be met with examples...

quote:
use a mesh warp



What is that?

For now thanks for the 3 meaningful replies.

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 10-18-2004 18:39
quote:
Well I have never seen one.



And.....how do you know that?

If everyone was just tracing this stuff, we'd be in a pretty sad state.

That's pretty much like saying that nobody is drawing or painting such things from their head - I think that's well enough established that I don't need to provide examples of people doing just that.

Why would vector art be any different?

Of course, using photos/models as reference is a far different thing than simply tracing them.

As for 'meaningful replies - if you don't see DG's post as having any meaning, then you really do need to take his advice and get out more...

FWIW

Arnitald
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Germany
Insane since: Apr 2004

posted posted 10-18-2004 19:33

And you should learn to count then. I wanted no discussion about mesh effect. I just told that I have no idea how to create is as vectors after somebody asked. (or no idea that would not be a time-waster in this case)

This really gets offtopic.


What do you mean by tracing them? By following the photo's lines? Well I do that right now because I want a vector transformation of the photo.

DL-44
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: under the bed
Insane since: Feb 2000

posted posted 10-18-2004 20:42
quote:
I wanted no discussion about mesh effect.



Well, quite frankly: too bad.

That's what happens in a discussion - topics wander. You post a piece of work asking questions, but it's not okay for people to ask you questions about what you've done? That makes no sense.

Anyway...

You want a vector transformation of the photo - fine. Certainly not an uncommon thing.

But that doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of people out there doing the real thing from scratch.

Morph
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: The Soft Cell
Insane since: Nov 2001

posted posted 10-19-2004 16:30

Has the image been removed? i cant see it

Tao
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: The Pool Of Life
Insane since: Nov 2003

posted posted 10-19-2004 23:54

Yep Morph, the image in question seems to be missing atm. It was there originally, perhaps Arnitald has taken it off to the laboratory for some more work

:::tao::: ::cell::

Alevice
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: Mexico
Insane since: Dec 2002

posted posted 10-20-2004 03:13

Given yesterday was avilable, and that last edit was 2 days ago, I doubt it was removed. Or dunino

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Arnitald
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Germany
Insane since: Apr 2004

posted posted 10-20-2004 11:59

I have not taken it away... hmmm and Imageshack should guarantee 1 year storage. Well anyway... here is some more progress. Nothing is really traced here... I have stopped on the shoulder's right side. I will continue when I got more time again.



And i "traced" the reflection on the rock... find it cool or not. I have always trouble with such complicated reflections. Interesting to see how the realistic look is being created. I think I learned something from it.

Tao
Paranoid (IV) Inmate

From: The Pool Of Life
Insane since: Nov 2003

posted posted 10-20-2004 12:47

Sorry Arnitald I still can't see an image there (in your last post). Anyone else having that problem?

:::tao::: ::cell::

Tyberius Prime
Paranoid (IV) Mad Scientist with Finglongers

From: Germany
Insane since: Sep 2001

posted posted 10-20-2004 13:42

yup, I can't see it either.
The problem appears to be with the link you're using, Arnitald. It returns an html document instead of just an image).

so long,

->Tyberius Prime

Arnitald
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Germany
Insane since: Apr 2004

posted posted 10-21-2004 13:25



Hm the link doesn't seem to work with the img tag. Try this.

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