Topic awaiting preservation: A Fake President For A Fake Nation

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"I am the commander, see. I do not need to explain why I say things. That's the interesting thing about being the president. Maybe somebody needs to explain to me why they need to say something, but I don't feel like I owe anybody an explanation." - George W Bush in an interview with Bob Woodward 2003

Today, Bush has been reappointed "Commander in Chief" of the USA. Whether their votes mattered or not, this event has occurred with the consent of many millions of Americans cowed by the illusory fear of "Arab terrorists". In truth the American people have today cast a vote for tyranny.

Below we present some reports and facts which confirm what all conscious beings already know - Bush and his entourage are liars and callous murderers and their war on humanity has only just begun.

We will leave it to the reader to ponder how we have arrived at this particular depressing juncture and what, if any, chance there may be for a way out.

Prominent DC Shrink Diagnoses Bush to be a Paranoid, Sadistic Meglomaniac
By Staff and Wire Reports
Jun 14, 2004, 00:22

A new book by a prominent Washington psychoanalyst says President George W. Bush is a "paranoid meglomaniac" as well as a sadist and "untreated alcoholic"

Dr. Justin Frank, writing in Bush on the Couch: Inside the Mind of the President, also says the President has a ""lifelong streak of sadism, ranging from childhood pranks (using firecrackers to explode frogs) to insulting journalists, gloating over state executions ... [and] pumping his fist gleefully before the bombing of Baghdad."

Even worse, Dr. Frank concludes, the President's years of heavy drinking ""may have affected his brain function - and his decision to quit drinking without the help of a 12-step program [puts] him at far higher risk of relapse."

Dr. Frank's conclusions appear to confirm a June 4, 2004, Capitol Hill Blue report that says the President's erratic behavior and wide mood swings have White House aides concerned.

Bush shows an inability to grieve - dating back to age 7, when his sister died. "The family's reaction - no funeral and no mourning - set in motion his life-long pattern of turning away from pain [and hiding] behind antic behavior," says Frank, who says Bush may suffer from Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder.

Other findings by Dr. Frank:

* His mother, Barbara Bush - tabbed by some family friends as "the one who instills fear" - had trouble connecting emotionally with her son, Frank argues.
* George H.W. Bush's "emotional and physical absence during his son's youth triggered feelings of both adoration and revenge in George W."
* The President suffers from "character pathology," including "grandiosity" and "megalomania" -- viewing himself, America and God as interchangeable.

Dr. Frank has been a psychiatrist for 35 years and is on staff at George Washington University. A Democrat, he once headed the Washington Chapter of Physicians for Social Responsibility.

In an interview with The Washington Post's Richard Leiby, Dr. Frank said he began to be concerned about Bush's behavior in 2002.

"I was really very unsettled by him and I started watching everything he did and reading what he wrote, and watching him on videotape. I felt he was disturbed," Dr. Frank told Leiby. Bush, he said, "fits the profile of a former drinker whose alcoholism has been arrested but not treated."

Dr. Frank's expert recommendation? "Our sole treatment option -- for his benefit and for ours -- is to remove President Bush from office . . . before it is too late."

Comment: It is too late. America had its chance. Bush has been mandated to pursue worldwide death and destruction for another four years - it is hard to say if the world will survive them.

By Staff and Wire Reports
Jun 14, 2004, 00:22

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QUOTATION: "Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes."



(Edited by Xpirex on 11-04-2004 07:37)

I asked google for the source of the "I owe anybody explanation" outstanding quote. Can you cite the source of your whole post before the flame war starts here ?

[edit] I don't buy everything in your post, but yet I found a video showing the maturity of the character. [/edit]



(Edited by poi on 11-04-2004 07:59)

[cough] Flamebait!

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Flame war? Did someone mention a flame war?

Actually, I much prefer civil discussion to flame wars.

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*shakes head sadly*

Here we go again...

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Bugimus said:

Actually, I much prefer civil discussion to flame wars.

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If you repeat that often enough, people will believe it.

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President Bush: "I do not need to explain why I say things. ? That's the interesting thing about being the President. ? Maybe somebody needs to explain to me why they say something, but I don't feel like I owe anybody an explanation." Source

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(Edited by metahuman on 11-05-2004 00:13)

meta, you seem to have an extremely black and white view of the world. You do realize that you may not be right about everything don't you? Are you so arrogant that you cannot even consider another point of view? Why are you being so belligerent?

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meta, you seem to have an extremely black and white view of the world. You do realize that you may not be right about everything don't you? Are you so arrogant that you cannot even consider another point of view? Why are you being so belligerent?

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That's funny. Didn't you just say you prefer civil discussion to flame wars? Yes, you did!

That's one thing I don't like about discussions via internet. You can't hear expressions, and you can't see who you are talking to (got me in trouble sometimes...).

Do not rebuke a mocker or he will hate you, rebuke a wise man and he will love you.

You're right Xpirex, convinced me. Damn, don't I feel like the fool voting for Bush.

MH - Please explain what about Bugimus' post bears any resemblence to flaming.

You seem to be rather confused as to what a 'flame war' might be.

meta, you call me a liar and then say I'm in the wrong for pointing that out? You make me sad. ~to be followed by the line "come Patsy!"~

[edit] I think you implied that I am lying when I say that I prefer civil discussion. [/edit]

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(Edited by Bugimus on 11-05-2004 03:33)

Xpirex, I love how you confront everyone by just posting a legnthy quote and never offer any insight to what you truely think on the subject you've presented.

And you wonder why people call you a mindless tool all the time...

Hehe...InSiDeR called someone else a

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I never thought I'd live to see the day, when he was right!!

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meta, you call me a liar and then say I'm in the wrong for pointing that out? You make me sad. ~to be followed by the line "come Patsy!"~

[edit] I think you implied that I am lying when I say that I prefer civil discussion. [/edit]

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I did not call you a liar--directly or indirectly. Other than your absolute faith in religious doctrine, there would be no basis for that claim... if you didn't reply in the manner you did. No, I alluded to the ineffectual political strategy of repeating the same things until a person or group of people believe what is being said. For instance, the Bush and Johnson administrations' usage of fear and hope tactics. You often say you prefer civil discussion to flame wars. Your response to me demonstrated otherwise. You called me an arrogant and belligerent bigot that naively understands the world in binary colors. If that's not an attempt to initiate a flame war, I don't know what is.

At least now, Bugimus, I know how you truly feel about me. I'll certainly keep your opinion of me in perspective the next time you attempt to present objective and unbiased arguments in defense of whatever you proffer. Good day.

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meta, you asked me to read one of your posts a while back carefully. Well, that is exactly what I went back and did. I must ask you to do the same to what I said above:

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...you seem to have an extremely black and white view of the world. You do realize that you may not be right about everything don't you? Are you so arrogant that you cannot even consider another point of view? Why are you being so belligerent?

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Notice I said you *seemed* a certain way to me. I left it open in order to allow you to clarify if you didn't intend to come across that way. Then I asked you three questions. Only the last question made a statment that you were being belligerent which you most certainly have been as of late. Either way, how do you think I feel knowing that you think I prefer flame wars? Can you not see why I was hurt by you thinking that of me?

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If that's not an attempt to initiate a flame war, I don't know what is.

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Well, I can assure you it was not intended to start a flame war with you. It was intended to smack you just enough so that I could engage you in discussion to find out why you say some of the things you say. Quite honestly, I just can't understand what is motivating you in some of these threads. You really do come across the way I suggested above. There is nothing wrong with open, honest, and even heated discussion and that does not necessarily become a flame war. You're big into using proper definitions of words and so you must realize that I haven't flamed you in this thread.

More specifically to the point of this thread becoming a flame war, most of the time X posts an article like this it does become a flame war. This has happened several times in previous threads. He comes in, posts an article with zero commentary and then when people start criticizing it the war begins. I have often tried to address the issues in some of these threads but it usually is overshadowed by personal attacks flying all over the place. So I was flippant above because I just know how these usually go but I really would prefer a discussion.
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Today, Bush has been reappointed "Commander in Chief" of the USA. Whether their
votes mattered or not, this event has occurred with the consent of many millions
of Americans cowed by the illusory fear of "Arab terrorists". In truth the
American people have today cast a vote for tyranny. ...Bush
and his entourage are liars and callous murderers and their war on humanity has only just begun.

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Hello X. The bold text above is utter and complete hysteria. Look at the language. Regardless of whether you agree with the war in Afghanistan or Iraq, to agree with those statments above shows a serious problem in judgement.

The threat from Arab terrorists, namely Al Qaeda, is not illusory. You can argue to what degree it is a threat and that is perfectly valid but to say it is illusory is just wrong. It is a threat, many people have died as a result of it. People have been murdered by Arab terrorists for many years now.

The American people have cast a vote for tyranny? Tyranny?!? How can you say such a thing when you compare it to what the enemy is trying to achieve? For that matter, how can you say such a thing just looking at the current state of the governments in the Middle East? Not one democracy, not even one. I ask myself why and how a mind can ignore that and call the most free and most democratic nation a tyranny. And I am not even arguing that we don't problems so please don't even go there. I have acknowledged many times here that we are far from without flaws. But this article is written with a completel lack of perspective on that point.

Bush and his people may be liars but making war on humanity? Again, there is no perspective in that statement. There is no such thing as a perfect government or a perfect people. But because there are no pure parties in this world should not preclude anyone from opposing true tyranny. I am afraid that you are completely ignoring the state of humanity that existed in Iraq prior to our invasion. You simply cannot say that because we, almost unilaterally, decided to remove a brutal dictator like Hussein and replace his government with some semblance of a democracy, that we are the tyrants.

But wait, you can say that. You have said that. I believe you really believe we are the tyrants. How? Why? This is something that I will turn my attention to. It would be really nice if you could explain to me why you can think such things. But here are my suspicions. It has something to do with your understanding and belief about the fundamental nature of human beings. Are human beings, left to their own devices, basically good or bad? I believe so very much of the current cultural war we found ourselves in here in the states and also with our European allies comes down to that one key point.

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You called me an arrogant and belligerent bigot that naively understands the world in binary colors. If that's not an attempt to initiate a flame war, I don't know what is.

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Now that's funny.

You - the one who is constantly whining that people are misconstruing your words - have taken what bugimus said and totally twisted it into your own subjective interpretation.

And at the same time, proving that your negative interpretation of what bugimus said is actually pretty accurate, even though he painted you more positively.

Ah....irony.......gotta love it.

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You - the one who is constantly whining that people are misconstruing your words - have taken what bugimus said and totally twisted it into your own subjective interpretation.

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Hardly.

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meta, you seem to have an extremely black and white view of the world. (binary colors, naivete) You do realize that you may not be right about everything don't you? Are you so arrogant that you cannot even consider another point of view? (arrogance, bigotry) Why are you being so belligerent? (belligerence)

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I used his words. That's all.

Ah...another thwarted attempt at turning the tables...don't you ever tire of being wrong, DL-44?

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Again - very subjecetive.

Your version is a subjective interpretation of Bug's words - plain and simple. I'm sorry for you that you cannot see that.

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Clearly not, seeing as you just posted his words, with your subjective interpretation following, showing the clear difference between what he said and how you took it.

Terms such as "you seem..." and "are you...." and "do you realize" are vastly different than "you are..."

"You seem..." = "I see you as..."

"Are you..." = "I suppose you are..."

Ah...another thwarted attempt at turning the tables...don't you ever tire of being inadequate, DL-44?

meta, I used those terms specifically to make you aware of how you are coming across. Sometimes people don't realize just how they look to others until someone points it out. I would have just told you off if I wanted to flame you. And you're actually doing it again by reducing this to an "either or" situation.

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(Edited by Bugimus on 11-06-2004 00:45)

hey, i just dropped by to drop off this bucket of fish.
*runs away

(Edited by outcydr on 11-06-2004 00:12)

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meta, I used those terms specifically to make you aware of how you are coming across. Sometimes people don't realize just how they look to others until someone points it out. I would have just told you off if I wanted to flame you. And you're actually doing it again by reducing this to and "either or" situation.

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Well, well, well... thank you. You've legitimized my defense against DL-44's mindless babble.

"Bugimus, you seem to have an extremely hypocritical worldview. You do realize that you are wrong about most things don't you? Are you so deluded by divine fantasies that you cannot see beyond your rose-colored spectacles? Why are you being so irrational?" You're telling me... that it's okay... to say those things... to "point out" "how you look" in order to help you "realize" your identity!? Oh please... that's a weak excuse.

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lol

*grabs a fish from outcydr's bucket...
*pokes a pointy stick through it...
*and cooks it on the flames meta is insisting on having...

*props up stick and goes to see if meta has left a flame for him in another thread...

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*checks fish
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(Edited by UnknownComic on 11-06-2004 01:37)

What color is the sky on your planet MH?

I'd love to know....

=)

What color would you like it to be? Depending on the lighting, I can see straight through you.

metahuman, I only have one question. If you claim that it's not right to say such things about someone, under any circumstances, then why do you keep doing it. Do you, in fact, realise how much it damages your credibility when you contradict yourself like that?


Justice 4 Pat Richard

poi: So you found the famous "Bush flips the bird video." hehe.

I just wonder how you perceive that as immature. Sometimes humor is not all that bad, even flipping the bird in a joking manner. Politicians are people too and do let loose off camera. I'll bet Chirac has even invoked the old le bras d'honneur from time to time.

Seems we are in dire need of a little humor around these parts as of late.

Ramasax

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metahuman, I only have one question. If you claim that it's not right to say such things about someone, under any circumstances, then why do you keep doing it. Do you, in fact, realise how much it damages your credibility when you contradict yourself like that?

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I never said "it's not right to say such things... under any circumstances..."; therefore, I've not contradicted myself. I only return fire. I do not initiate conflict. As I've said to others whom have e-mailed me, "if you want to curtail the aggression, drop your weapon and I'll do the same."

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I only return fire. I do not initiate conflict.

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lol, now that was funny. You get the idea meta, humor.

Ramasax is a special case!

*twirls around with incredulous shock
*curses as fish falls in fire

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I don't eat fish, UC. You'll have to finish those up.

Neither do I ...

I was just shocked that you wrote that you dont start shit...

*Scratches head and wanders down to electrotherapy

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"Bugimus, you seem to have an extremely hypocritical worldview. You do realize that you are wrong about most things don't you? Are you so deluded by divine fantasies that you cannot see beyond your rose-colored spectacles? Why are you being so irrational?" You're telling me... that it's okay... to say those things... to "point out" "how you look" in order to help you "realize" your identity!? Oh please... that's a weak excuse.

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I'm honestly not making an excuse for anything, I haven't done anything to make an excuse for.

Actually, I don't mind in the least discussing those things if that is what you get from me. I can totally see how I can come across like some of those statements to some people. I've said it before, all people have to do is ask me about what's on their minds and I love to come to a better understanding with people. But notice that does not mean that I compromise my positions to avoid conflict, I'll still tell it like I see it.

I would very much like to hear you explain to me and others why you do seem to cast so many issues in black and white terms. I would like to know whether you are as belligerent as it seems, or perhaps there is another reason it comes across that way.

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(Edited by Bugimus on 11-06-2004 03:42)

Faulty misperceptions on your behalf. I'm not to blame.

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I've said it before, all people have to do is ask me about what's on their minds and I love to come to a better understanding with people.

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Unfortunately, that is not true. Your response to me in this thread where you quickly attacked me based on your assumption of my intended meaning demonstrates that untruth.

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Faulty misperceptions on your behalf. I'm not to blame.

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Hmmm...denial. So, if I understand this correctly, everyone else on this board who disagrees with you has "faulty misperceptions" and you are just misunderstood?

Let us set this in perspective - I keep getting into flame wars with others here on the board, and they keep pointing out errors that I have made both in my logic, in my perception of what was said, and the subject matter. And the fault lies on them, not me?

I think you have a major communication problem, MH. I think you are in denial about this. We have pointed this out again, and again, and again. Only you seem to think otherwise.

And apparently, you seem to think that we do not understand you.

If we assume, for theory's sake, that both cases are true, then what is the point to your mental masturbation?

You can't say I didn't try, meta My door is always open

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Your trying is now entomed in this thread. You put a really good effort into those last bunch of posts, it just looks like it is falling on deaf ears. Were this thread to stand on its own with zero personal history tagging along I would't hesitate to label metahuman as a troll, and seeing as I don't know metahuman's history I will label him a troll.

Bugs I think I know where you pull you seemingly infinate patience from. Sometimes I wish I had a well that ran so deep.

Dan @ Code Town

That's ok Warmage, my friend... I *do* know metahuman's history here, and I too label him as a troll... seems to deliberately go out of his way to goad people into fights, and if he doesn't get the rise he's looking for he just starts the fights himself.


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^ Yup, totally agree.

More classic USA brains...

George Bush Quotes

"I don't read what's handed to me."
New York, NY 3/15/00

"More and more of our imports come from overseas."
Beaverton, OR 9/29/00

"I understand small business growth. I was one."
New York, NY 2/19/00

"Natural gas is hemispheric. I like to call it hemispheric in nature because it is a product that we can find in our neighborhoods."
Austin, Texas 12/20/00

"If affirmative action means what I just described, what I'm for, then I'm for it."
St. Louis, MO 10/18/00

"This is Preservation Month. I appreciate preservation...You gotta preserve."
Nashua, NH 1/28/00

"Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?"
Florence, SC 1/11/00

"They Misunderestimated me."
Bentonville, AR 11/6/00

"I think if you know what you believe, it makes it a lot easier to answer questions. I can't answer your question."
Reynoldsburg, OH 10/4/00

"Our priorities is our faith."
Greensboro, NC 10/10/00

"If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."
Washington, DC 12/18/00

"There's nothing more deep than recognizing Israel's right to exist. That's the most deep thought of all...I can't think of anything more deep than that."
Washington, DC, 3/13/02

"And so, in my State of the my State of the Union or state-my speech to the nation, whatever you want to call it, speech to the nation-I asked Americans to give 4,000 years-4,000 hours over the next-the rest of your life-of service to America. That's what I asked for-4,000 hours."
Bridgeport, CT, 4/9/02

"This foreign policy stuff is a little frustrating."
New York, NY 4/23/02

"For a century and a half now, America and Japan have formed one of the great and enduring alliances of modern times (Dude, it's been like 60 years)."
Tokyo 2/18/02

"I know what I believe. I will continue to articulate what I believe and what I believe I believe what I believe is right."
Rome 7/22/01

"I think we agree, the past is over."
Dallas, TX 5/10/01

QUOTATION: "Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes."

Oh, hello there, X. How are things?

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Something tells me that metahuman got beat up a lot as a kid.

Wait, he probably still gets beat up a lot.

:::11oh1:::

^Hehe...man, THAT is funny.

ATOOOOOMIC WEDGIE!

Meh, I hate these sorts of things. Especially as I've been on the end of a couple of them here . But I have to agree with many of the anti-MH sentiments expressed here.

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Wrayal

Go to kimber-ja.demon.co.uk and click on the link to the raytracer!

he is the metahuman, please cut him some slack, friggin mortals.

Heh, can't be talking to me..... http://www.ozoneasylum.com/5552 ..... http://www.wrayal.4t.com/5KWraytracer.html .... "superhuman"

Wrayal

Go to kimber-ja.demon.co.uk and click on the link to the raytracer!

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Bush's victory shot #1 and victory shot #2.

Regarding that second image Death of a filmmaker.

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While I am and always have been vehemently anti-Bush, those images are appalingly unintelligent and misguided.

Blaming Bush for anti-muslim sentiment in the world is like blaming Osama Bin laden for anti-american sentiment in the world.

Blaming him for the suicide of an obviously disturbed individual is just silly.

DL-44: I'm not claiming that Bush is anti-muslim. These screenshots are just the rotten fruits of a random ad in some news websites. The 'collision' of the "Celebrate Victory!" ad and the two articles turned out to be a cynical joke.