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Gilbert Nolander Maniac (V) Inmate From: Washington DC Insane since: May 2002	posted 11-30-2004 17:57 Hello, I finally bought myself a website, and was going to start making pages out of my stories and what-not, but thought I should get you guys to take a look first. I'm still not completly done with the color scheme, but was more interested in the CSS aspect of it, and the general workability between different browsers. I tried Firefox and IE6 and it looked ok, but I was wondering how it looked on other browsers, etc. This is my first attempt at using CSS to set up positioning and was wondering if you guys had any suggestions or added input. One more thing, none of the links should work since this is just the first step. Thanks, www.jeff-nolan.com
Suho1004 Maniac (V) Mad Librarian From: Seoul, Korea Insane since: Apr 2002	posted 12-01-2004 04:42 Hmm. Not much to say at this point. I'm not using a browser you haven't already tested, so I can't help you there. Let us know when you've gotten a bit further on it, or if you want us to comment on other aspects of the site, and I'll see if I can help out. ___________________________ Suho: www.liminality.org \| Cell 270 \| Sig Rotator \| the Fellowship of Sup \| "Hooray for linguistic idiots and yak milk!"
Gilbert Nolander Maniac (V) Inmate From: Washington DC Insane since: May 2002	posted 12-01-2004 22:01 Ok, I fixed up the CSS a bit. And decided I sort of like the color scheme as it is. I will in the future add other color schemes, but this is my favorite from my old site, so I will use this one to start with. I also added all my stories and what-not so all the links should be working fine now. Go ahead and try it out and let me know what you think... Thanks. www.jeff-nolan.com
Black Hat Bipolar (III) Inmate From: Sin City (Can you guess where?) Insane since: Sep 2004	posted 12-01-2004 22:43 Well, first thing I noticed is that your CSS doesn't validate. http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?profile=css2&warning=2&uri=http%3A//www.jeff-nolan.com/ Next thing I noticed is that your site doesn't validate either: http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A//www.jeff-nolan.com/ Now, as to the overall design, Im not one to complain. Its very basic. More basic than mine I think (http://lostcitytinnos.net) but hey, whatever floats your boat I say. Im not a real fan of the colors. They just dont flow well together in my opinion. The navigation is at the top of the page and thats something Ive never truely cared for on sites but hell, its your site. Thats about it right off the bat. -----------------------------------------------
Rinswind 2th Maniac (V) Inmate From: Den Haag: The Royal Residence Insane since: Jul 2000	posted 12-02-2004 01:06 I see you have set a fixed size on the left box on the home page, and yes i looks better this way than yesterday but now the page doesn't scale as good. It is scaling very well when you make the width of the window smaller only the right box scales. So when the width is the same size as the left box the right box disapears. I don't know if you care about it but if you do you might want this to know. Also i noticed the space between the boxes on the different pages is not the same. I you make these spaces the same (fixed or scalable) it creates more unity. Also more side margin or some kind of boxing on the daily ramblings page could not hurt but it has to be subtle. This page looks very dull. Try to put the date in a little diffrent font, maybe i bit smaller an a bit bolder perhaps. I do wonder about all those "div.something.something{....}" rules in your css file. I want to say something about them . First you do not need to make everything a div. You could use every xhtml element to put style rules on. Second by using classes you could change a whole lot of things at the same time. Third by using the cascading (the c from css) you could safe a lot of typing. Here are some examples: Class: code: <style bla bla> .title {font-family:arial; font-size:1.5em;} .text {font-family:arial; font-size:1.em;} </style> <html><body> <span class=title;>This would be a title with an 1.5em sized font</span> <div class=text;>bla bla text with fontsize from 1em. bla bla text with fontsize from 1em. bla bla text with fontsize from 1em. bla bla text with fontsize from 1em. bla bla text with fontsize from 1em. </div> <p class=text>This is a different element with the same class again the size is 1em. This is a different element with the same class again the size is 1em. This is a different element with the same class again the size is 1em</p></body></html> Using the cascade posibilities: code: <style bla bla> body {font-family:arial; font-size:12px;} p.special {font-family:arial; font-size:14px;} </style> <html><body> <p>paragraph 1</p> <p>paragraph 2</p <div> diversion1 bla bla</div> <p class=special>fonts are just a bit bigger</p> <p>paragraph 4</p> </body> </html> In th last example all paragraphs and the div are part of the body element there off the all get the 12px fontsize. Except for the special paragraph 3. This has set the fontsize specified so it will use its own specs. And the font will be a bit bigger. However the fourth paragraph will default again to the size specied for the body element. Try it for yourself. ------------------------------ Support Justice for Pat Richard (Edited by Rinswind 2th on 12-02-2004 01:28)
Rinswind 2th Maniac (V) Inmate From: Den Haag: The Royal Residence Insane since: Jul 2000	posted 12-02-2004 01:19 ~zap double post~ (Edited by Rinswind 2th on 12-02-2004 01:25)
Gilbert Nolander Maniac (V) Inmate From: Washington DC Insane since: May 2002	posted 12-02-2004 13:53 Thanks for the input Rinswind, I know I need to learn a lot more about CSS, and I pretty much winged it, which is probably very obvious. I wasn't aware that you could set one class and then apply that to < p > and < div > or < span > or anything. That is good to know. I still want to get my color scheme looking good and I will look into fixing up the ramblings page, but as far as the technical CSS stuff, I will save that for another day. Thanks though for your time and for helping me to better understand this. And Black Hat. Thanks also for the info on validating. I didn't think to check that. It's pretty close to validating, and everything seems to work. I may get rid of that center tag on my main page, but I did that for DL-44 since I know how much he hates it. jeff-nolan.com
Gilbert Nolander Maniac (V) Inmate From: Washington DC Insane since: May 2002	posted 12-02-2004 15:26 Fixed up Daily Ramblings page... jeff-nolan.com/ramblings.html
Rinswind 2th Maniac (V) Inmate From: Den Haag: The Royal Residence Insane since: Jul 2000	posted 12-03-2004 23:34 Well what should i say. I like the little overal changes in the color scheme. And yes the Rambling pages are les dull. But... 1) When half way down i realy don't know which date belongs to which article. 2) The boxes the color could be called subtle but the quantity is a bit overdone. Sugestions: -play with some extra padding/margin between the boxes in the vertical direction -play with some extra padding/margin between the boxes and the sides of the page -change different backgrounds eg.: a slightly darker background for the even boxes and a slighly lighter for the odd. Try to put some "air" in it. ------------------------------ Support Justice for Pat Richard
Gilbert Nolander Maniac (V) Inmate From: Washington DC Insane since: May 2002	posted 12-07-2004 16:28 Ok, Rinswind... Thanks for your help. I fixed up everything you suggested, and I think it looks nicer. Basically, I am completely done with everything and I am hopeing my website looks good, and simple, since it is a story site, no need to have high-tech graphics and what-not. Anyway, Thanks for your help. And of course, any comments from anyone else would be well appreciated... jeff-nolan.com
Rinswind 2th Maniac (V) Inmate From: Den Haag: The Royal Residence Insane since: Jul 2000	posted 12-07-2004 23:52 Nice. Thumbs UP. ------------------------------ Support Justice for Pat Richard
Suho1004 Maniac (V) Mad Librarian From: Seoul, Korea Insane since: Apr 2002	posted 12-08-2004 01:54 Oy, sorry I never got back to you on this, GN. General comments on the look of the site... I'm not a terrible fan of the boxy look, but to each his own, I suppose. My major beef would be the light text on dark background. For text-heavy sites, I prefer dark on light. That may also be a personal preference. You certainly do have a lot of content and, as they say, content is king. So that's a good thing. ___________________________ Suho: www.liminality.org \| Cell 270 \| Sig Rotator \| the Fellowship of Sup \| "Hooray for linguistic idiots and yak milk!"
Gilbert Nolander Maniac (V) Inmate From: Washington DC Insane since: May 2002	posted 12-08-2004 15:31 Thanks... Suho - I plan on making other colors available shortly. And one with a light background, with the dark text is the first one I am working on. I was thinking of something brownish. I got this advertisement from BMG Music the other day in the mail and it was a blend of dark and light browns with white text. Really nice... As a note, I really love this site for helping out with color schemes - color wizard

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Gilbert Nolander
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Washington DC
Insane since: May 2002

posted 11-30-2004 17:57

Hello,

I finally bought myself a website, and was going to start making pages out of my stories and what-not, but thought I should get you guys to take a look first. I'm still not completly done with the color scheme, but was more interested in the CSS aspect of it, and the general workability between different browsers. I tried Firefox and IE6 and it looked ok, but I was wondering how it looked on other browsers, etc. This is my first attempt at using CSS to set up positioning and was wondering if you guys had any suggestions or added input. One more thing, none of the links should work since this is just the first step.

Thanks,

www.jeff-nolan.com

Suho1004
Maniac (V) Mad Librarian

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted 12-01-2004 04:42

Hmm. Not much to say at this point. I'm not using a browser you haven't already tested, so I can't help you there. Let us know when you've gotten a bit further on it, or if you want us to comment on other aspects of the site, and I'll see if I can help out.

___________________________
Suho: www.liminality.org | Cell 270 | Sig Rotator | the Fellowship of Sup | "Hooray for linguistic idiots and yak milk!"

Gilbert Nolander
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Washington DC
Insane since: May 2002

posted 12-01-2004 22:01

Ok,

I fixed up the CSS a bit. And decided I sort of like the color scheme as it is. I will in the future add other color schemes, but this is my favorite from my old site, so I will use this one to start with.

I also added all my stories and what-not so all the links should be working fine now. Go ahead and try it out and let me know what you think...

Thanks.

www.jeff-nolan.com

Black Hat
Bipolar (III) Inmate

From: Sin City (Can you guess where?)
Insane since: Sep 2004

posted 12-01-2004 22:43

Well, first thing I noticed is that your CSS doesn't validate.

http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?profile=css2&warning=2&uri=http%3A//www.jeff-nolan.com/

Next thing I noticed is that your site doesn't validate either:

http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A//www.jeff-nolan.com/

Now, as to the overall design, Im not one to complain. Its very basic. More basic than mine I think (http://lostcitytinnos.net) but hey, whatever floats your boat I say.

Im not a real fan of the colors. They just dont flow well together in my opinion.

The navigation is at the top of the page and thats something Ive never truely cared for on sites but hell, its your site.

Thats about it right off the bat.

-----------------------------------------------

Rinswind 2th
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Den Haag: The Royal Residence
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted 12-02-2004 01:06

I see you have set a fixed size on the left box on the home page, and yes i looks better this way than yesterday but now the page doesn't scale as good. It is scaling very well when you make the width of the window smaller only the right box scales. So when the width is the same size as the left box the right box disapears. I don't know if you care about it but if you do you might want this to know.
Also i noticed the space between the boxes on the different pages is not the same. I you make these spaces the same (fixed or scalable) it creates more unity. Also more side margin or some kind of boxing on the daily ramblings page could not hurt but it has to be subtle. This page looks very dull. Try to put the date in a little diffrent font, maybe i bit smaller an a bit bolder perhaps.

I do wonder about all those "div.something.something{....}" rules in your css file. I want to say something about them . First you do not need to make everything a div. You could use every xhtml element to put style rules on. Second by using classes you could change a whole lot of things at the same time. Third by using the cascading (the c from css) you could safe a lot of typing.

Here are some examples:

Class:

code:

<style bla bla>

.title 

{font-family:arial; font-size:1.5em;}

.text

{font-family:arial; font-size:1.em;}

</style> 





<html><body>



<span class=title;>This would be a title with an 1.5em sized font</span>

<div class=text;>bla bla text with fontsize from 1em.  bla bla text with fontsize from 1em. 

bla bla text with fontsize from 1em. bla bla text with fontsize from 1em. 

bla bla text with fontsize from 1em. 

</div>

<p class=text>This is a different element with the same class again the size is 1em.

This is a different element with the same class again the size is 1em. 

This is a different element with the same class again the size is 1em</p></body></html>

Using the cascade posibilities:

code:

<style bla bla>

body

{font-family:arial; font-size:12px;}

p.special

{font-family:arial; font-size:14px;}

</style> 



<html><body>

<p>paragraph 1</p>

<p>paragraph 2</p

<div> diversion1 bla bla</div>

<p class=special>fonts are just a bit bigger</p>

<p>paragraph 4</p>

</body> </html>

In th last example all paragraphs and the div are part of the body element there off the all get the 12px fontsize. Except for the special paragraph 3.
This has set the fontsize specified so it will use its own specs. And the font will be a bit bigger.
However the fourth paragraph will default again to the size specied for the body element.
Try it for yourself.

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(Edited by Rinswind 2th on 12-02-2004 01:28)

Rinswind 2th
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Den Haag: The Royal Residence
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted 12-02-2004 01:19

~zap double post~

(Edited by Rinswind 2th on 12-02-2004 01:25)

Gilbert Nolander
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Washington DC
Insane since: May 2002

posted 12-02-2004 13:53

Thanks for the input Rinswind, I know I need to learn a lot more about CSS, and I pretty much winged it, which is probably very obvious. I wasn't aware that you could set one class and then apply that to < p > and < div > or < span > or anything. That is good to know. I still want to get my color scheme looking good and I will look into fixing up the ramblings page, but as far as the technical CSS stuff, I will save that for another day. Thanks though for your time and for helping me to better understand this.

And Black Hat. Thanks also for the info on validating. I didn't think to check that. It's pretty close to validating, and everything seems to work. I may get rid of that center tag on my main page, but I did that for DL-44 since I know how much he hates it.

jeff-nolan.com

Gilbert Nolander
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Washington DC
Insane since: May 2002

posted 12-02-2004 15:26

Fixed up Daily Ramblings page...

jeff-nolan.com/ramblings.html

Rinswind 2th
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Den Haag: The Royal Residence
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted 12-03-2004 23:34

Well what should i say. I like the little overal changes in the color scheme. And yes the Rambling pages are les dull. But...
1) When half way down i realy don't know which date belongs to which article.
2) The boxes the color could be called subtle but the quantity is a bit overdone.

Sugestions:
-play with some extra padding/margin between the boxes in the vertical direction
-play with some extra padding/margin between the boxes and the sides of the page
-change different backgrounds eg.: a slightly darker background for the even boxes and a slighly lighter for the odd. Try to put some "air" in it.

------------------------------
Support Justice for Pat Richard

Gilbert Nolander
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Washington DC
Insane since: May 2002

posted 12-07-2004 16:28

Ok, Rinswind...
Thanks for your help.
I fixed up everything you suggested, and I think it looks nicer.

Basically,
I am completely done with everything and I am hopeing my website looks good, and simple, since it is a story site, no need to have high-tech graphics and what-not.

Anyway, Thanks for your help.

And of course, any comments from anyone else would be well appreciated...

jeff-nolan.com

Rinswind 2th
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Den Haag: The Royal Residence
Insane since: Jul 2000

posted 12-07-2004 23:52

Nice. Thumbs UP.

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Suho1004
Maniac (V) Mad Librarian

From: Seoul, Korea
Insane since: Apr 2002

posted 12-08-2004 01:54

Oy, sorry I never got back to you on this, GN.

General comments on the look of the site... I'm not a terrible fan of the boxy look, but to each his own, I suppose. My major beef would be the light text on dark background. For text-heavy sites, I prefer dark on light. That may also be a personal preference.

You certainly do have a lot of content and, as they say, content is king. So that's a good thing.

___________________________
Suho: www.liminality.org | Cell 270 | Sig Rotator | the Fellowship of Sup | "Hooray for linguistic idiots and yak milk!"

Gilbert Nolander
Maniac (V) Inmate

From: Washington DC
Insane since: May 2002

posted 12-08-2004 15:31

Thanks...

Suho - I plan on making other colors available shortly. And one with a light background, with the dark text is the first one I am working on. I was thinking of something brownish. I got this advertisement from BMG Music the other day in the mail and it was a blend of dark and light browns with white text. Really nice...

As a note, I really love this site for helping out with color schemes - color wizard

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