Preserved Topic: The interview with GOD

Hello

Hope you enjoy this in as much as I did: http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/

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Regards,
Elias

now this is probably the biggest shit i have ever seen. wow

what exactly was shit? the stunning photography? The general wisdom of the banter? the smooth simple Flash presentation? the acknowledgement of the existence of God? Wasn't exactly macho, cool or flashy, that's for sure

that went around the office a few years ago, some of that photography is incredible, and I really dig some of the ironic truths

I liked it... Thanks.

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JKMabry said:

what exactly was shit? the stunning photography? The general
wisdom of the banter? the smooth simple Flash presentation? the
acknowledgement of the existence of God? Wasn't exactly macho, cool or
flashy, that's for sure

that went around the office a few years ago, some of that photography is incredible, and I really dig some of the ironic truths

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no dude, the fact that this site takes itself seriously...say hello to god anyhow, i think it would be better to take the word shit back, since this may offend someone in here. i dont want to abnegate the existence of god or so.....but....this is just.....exaggerated.

B | T | E | P | L

Oh, how cute!

A site that capitalises on God! It makes such a nice gift - doesn't cost that much either.

Go, Christians, go!

Some people take this shit with too much cynicism. I mean, it's okay finding it funny because of the unreal aspect, but it kind of reminds me of plenty of forward mails.

And it kind of helps to read something like that when you are depressed.

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I cant shake the feeling that at any moment a freakish bug eyed gremlin from the depths of hell will lurch at me screaming insanities and scare me silly...

freakin flash movies.

I've learned to fear anything that asks you to concentrate on the screen, same as eyezaer

mas: whether GOD exists or not, whether GOD talks or not....is not the point.

The thoughts, feelings and emotions that are triggered within you through this flash movie are what matters.

You don't have to belong to any religion to enjoy wisdom.

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lallous said:

You don't have to belong to any religion to enjoy wisdom.

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I agree wholeheartedly, and I'm surprised at some of the reactions I've seen in this thread. I enjoyed the presentation, and I don't feel that it actually has anything to do with Christianity. The wisdom expressed in the presentation has found its way into just about every major world religion and thought system.

Also, it has nothing to do with the existence of God. Did you not see the very first sentence in the presentation: "I had a dream..." In other words, this is a reflection of the author's consciousness. By putting these words into God's mouth, the author is externalizing the message. Think of it that way if the idea of God disturbs you.

WS: Do we really need the kneejerk anti-Christian sarcasm? Did you look behind the surface to see what it was really saying? Did you realize that this wisdom is not limited to Christianity but has been spoken by wise men and prophets the world over, including those of your own people?

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WS: Do we really need the kneejerk anti-Christian sarcasm? Did you look behind the surface to see what it was really saying? Did you realize that this wisdom is not limited to Christianity but has been spoken by wise men and prophets the world over, including those of your own people?

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Let me see - I think this is DIRECTLY to be found on the website -

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Do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God Isiah 41:10 (NIV)

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Yep. Is it from the Wisdom of my people? No. How about from the Islamic faith? No. Hindu? No. Buddhism? No.

Is it from the Christian bible (wisdom, if you will)? Yes.

Now, I am certainly not against wisdom, irregardless of the source. And get off my case, Master Suho with the "knee-jerk" stuff. The site is a Christian site - that much is obvious. And they are selling the "idea" - it is basically an advertisement to spend money. I don't need that. That is not wisdom, for me. That is a clever merchandising scheme. I also don't see them advocating other faiths. A wolf in sheeps clothing, if you ask me.

I do agree, that the pics are nice, and the site is done rather artistically. That said - just another "Christian God" site - it even states that under About Us "Christian Top 1000"

So can the "get off the anti-christina stuff, the stuff on the site is for everyone". And mentioning my people in the same sentence I find insulting.

WebShaman | Asylum D & D | D & D Min Page

(Edited by WebShaman on 01-13-2005 12:21)

I quite liked the presentation, the way it reminds us what is really important...

But I have to say it is rather amazing to read "they [the humankind] lose their health to make money and lose their money to restore their health"; so read all these lovely things and all, close the window and find yourself in front of a home page on which at least 50% of the left hand menu is about buying items: screensaver ($7.95 for the download version and $9.95 for the CD (?) version), calendar, book, greeting cards, video presentations,...

I'm wondering about two things:

- who gets the money from the sales? GOD?
- will GOD pay for their (the webmasters) recovering health eventually?

To be honest, good website, nice graphics, good presentation and even good idea, but that stinks.

I also took a look at the Source Code - this was in it

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Nature of God

Most people believe in a Supreme Being, even though they may call Him by different names.
We know that God, our Heavenly Father, lives. He knows you and each of us and loves us all as His children.

We are commanded to love God (Matthew 22:36?38). Jesus Christ taught that we must know the only true God to have eternal life (John 17:3). As His children, we must know who He is and what He is like.

As you come to know and love God, you will find greater peace and joy, both in this life and in the life to come.

God is our Heavenly Father

Jesus taught that God is ?Our Father which art in heaven? (Matthew 6:9). We call God Heavenly Father because He is the Father of our spirits.
As your Father, God knows and loves you personally. He wants you to find joy in this life and return to live with Him when this life is over. He has prepared a plan to help you do these things. It is the plan of salvation, a plan of happiness. It offers peace in this life and eternal life in the world to come.

How can I know that God exists?

God has provided many evidences of His existence. One of these is the testimony of His creations: ?The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork? (Psalm 19:1).
Have you ever looked in awe at the night sky with its millions of stars? Or studied the intricate details of a leaf or flower? Or marveled at the miracle of a tiny new baby? These beautiful and complex creations didn?t come about by chance. They are the creations of God, your Heavenly Father. They can remind you of His existence and of His love for His children.

An ancient prophet declared: ?All things denote there is a God; yea, even the earth . . . and its motion, yea, and also all the planets which move in their regular form do witness that there is a Supreme Creator? (Book of Mormon, Alma 30:44).

What is God like?

God is perfect. He is all-wise and all-powerful?the ruler of the universe.
He is also merciful, kind, loving, and just?your Heavenly Father. We are created in His own image (Genesis 1:27).

Because you are His child, He knows and loves you as an individual. He has a plan to help His children find joy in this life and return to live with Him when this life is over.


Can I talk to God?

Yes. God loves you and wants you to talk to Him in prayer. The Savior said that we should ?pray always? (Luke 21:36). A prophet whose words are recorded in the Book of Mormon said, ?Let your hearts be . . . drawn out in prayer unto [God] continually? (Alma 34:27).
Prayer is one of the greatest blessings we have. It allows us to communicate with our Heavenly Father and to seek His guidance in all matters, great or small.

Prayer is not complicated. You can pray anytime, anywhere, out loud, or silently, with perfect confidence that God will hear you.

Does God answer prayers?

Yes, God does answer sincere prayers. Sometimes answers come through:
The Holy Ghost, giving you feelings or thoughts and ideas.
Other people.
The scriptures.
The answer may not come immediately or may not always be the answer you hoped for. Our vision is limited. God?s is not. As a loving Father, He will answer your prayers at a time and in a way that He knows will help you the most.
What is faith in God?

Faith in God is more than a theoretical belief in Him. To have faith in God is to trust Him, to have confidence in Him, and to be willing to act on your belief in Him. It is a principle of action and power.
To have faith is to ?hope for things which are not seen, which are true? (Book of Mormon, Alma 32:21). Each day you act upon things you hope for, even before you see the end result:

A farmer plants a seed and waters and tends it because he has faith that it will grow.
A student studies hard because she has faith that she will grow in knowledge.
Likewise, faith in God requires that you act with hope and trust in Him, before you see the final outcome. It also involves doing all you can to bring about what you hope and pray for.
Receiving answers to prayers

Because God often answers prayers through the Holy Ghost, it is important to learn to recognize the inspired feelings and thoughts that can come to you during or after a prayer.
When the answer is ?no,? because what you have asked for would not be best for you, you may have feelings of doubt or confusion.

When the answer is ?yes,? you may have a warm, peaceful feeling.

God does not always answer immediately. And sometimes the answer may be ?wait a while.?

God expects you to do your part to receive answers. Work out solutions and present your intended decisions to Him. Your obedience to His commandments also influences your ability to receive answers to prayer.

Often God gives you the ability to help answer your own prayers. As you pray for help, you should do all you can to bring about the things you desire.

Your prayers will always be answered at a time and in a way that Heavenly Father knows will help you the most.


Simple steps to prayer

Prayer is the way we communicate with our Heavenly Father. He wants to hear our deepest feelings and concerns. Prayer isn?t complicated or rigid. It is simply communicating what?s in your heart to your Father in Heaven. Don?t worry too much about the ?mechanics? of your prayer. Just open up your heart and speak to Him.
A simple prayer may include the following four basic steps:

Address God as ?Father in Heaven? or ?Heavenly Father.?
Thank Him for the things for which you are grateful (?I thank thee for . . .?).
Ask Him for what you need (?I ask thee . . .?).
Jesus is the mediator (1 John 2:1) between you and Heavenly Father, so close your prayer by saying, ?In the name of Jesus Christ, amen.?

Does God perform miracles?

The scriptures contain many accounts of God?s miracles in ancient times. In our day, He hasn?t lost interest in His children. He is still a God of miracles.
But He doesn?t perform miracles to satisfy someone?s idle curiosity or to prove that He is God. Rather, miracles are blessings to those who exercise faith in Him.

People who experience miracles today often consider them sacred and don?t talk publicly about them. But miracles do occur among God?s followers today just as they did in ancient times.


Learning about God

God, your Heavenly Father, knows and loves you. He wants you to know about Him, His plan for you, and how to return to live with Him. He has not left you on this earth without direction or the means to learn about Him. Throughout time He has chosen special witnesses, called prophets, to testify to His children and record His word. Amos wrote, ?Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets? (Amos 3:7).
You can learn more about your Heavenly Father as you study His words recorded by His prophets and as you listen to their direction and witness of Him.

Nature of God

Most people believe in a Supreme Being, even though they may call Him by different names.
We know that God, our Heavenly Father, lives. He knows you and each of us and loves us all as His children.

We are commanded to love God (Matthew 22:36?38). Jesus Christ taught that we must know the only true God to have eternal life (John 17:3). As His children, we must know who He is and what He is like.

As you come to know and love God, you will find greater peace and joy, both in this life and in the life to come.

God is our Heavenly Father

Jesus taught that God is ?Our Father which art in heaven? (Matthew 6:9). We call God Heavenly Father because He is the Father of our spirits.
As your Father, God knows and loves you personally. He wants you to find joy in this life and return to live with Him when this life is over. He has prepared a plan to help you do these things. It is the plan of salvation, a plan of happiness. It offers peace in this life and eternal life in the world to come.

How can I know that God exists?

God has provided many evidences of His existence. One of these is the testimony of His creations: ?The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork? (Psalm 19:1).
Have you ever looked in awe at the night sky with its millions of stars? Or studied the intricate details of a leaf or flower? Or marveled at the miracle of a tiny new baby? These beautiful and complex creations didn?t come about by chance. They are the creations of God, your Heavenly Father. They can remind you of His existence and of His love for His children.

An ancient prophet declared: ?All things denote there is a God; yea, even the earth . . . and its motion, yea, and also all the planets which move in their regular form do witness that there is a Supreme Creator? (Book of Mormon, Alma 30:44).

What is God like?

God is perfect. He is all-wise and all-powerful?the ruler of the universe.
He is also merciful, kind, loving, and just?your Heavenly Father. We are created in His own image (Genesis 1:27).

Because you are His child, He knows and loves you as an individual. He has a plan to help His children find joy in this life and return to live with Him when this life is over.

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Learning about God

God, your Heavenly Father, knows and loves you. He wants you to know about Him, His plan for you, and how to return to live with Him. He has not left you on this earth without direction or the means to learn about Him. Throughout time He has chosen special witnesses, called prophets, to testify to His children and record His word. Amos wrote, ?Surely the Lord God will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets? (Amos 3:7).
You can learn more about your Heavenly Father as you study His words recorded by His prophets and as you listen to their direction and witness of Him.
Morgan Westerman

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That is Christian all the way. So, I largely suspect that either the money is going to Christians, or someone is using the Faith to make money (won't be the first or last time).

(Edited by WebShaman on 01-13-2005 13:25)

What's cheesy about this, among other things, is the way the views of a person are presented as being words coming from god.

The whole premise is preposterous, and the "wisdom" it presents primarily cliche junk - IMHO.

The photos - absolutely great, no quesstion.

A handful of basic concepts - sure, can be said to be 'universal' in their application and wisdom.

The rest? Pure cheese.

I kept waiting for the punchline...like a Jack handy skit...

Aside the the content, some of those photos are completely amazing. They're worth the few minutes alone.

WS: It's obviously an Xian site but so what? I'm as cynical as anyone else when it comes to religious subjects but this doesn't seem so bad to me. No one is forcing anything down my throat here, it's just a simple Flash presentation that will appeal to certain religious followers. As far as capitalizing on God, what in this world isn't capitalized upon anymore? Jesus, you invoke your Native American heritage at the drop of a fucking dime and wield it like it's some kind of badge of honor that somehow suffuses your words with extra power. Please man, you're no better than any other Xian zealot who thinks that because they've "found God" they have a greater insight. Cut the BS.

:::11oh1:::

by the way...
Not exactly the same point, but interesting enough to be mentioned.

Krets. Chill.

I pointed out that the site is "selling" wisdom - and that it is a Christian based site. Suho jumped my ass for doing so, then brought in the crap about "my ancestors" - I answered to that.

I pointed out that I have nothing against wisdom irregardless of where it comes from, or what source. Like I said, I don't need some Christian (or other, for that matter) site selling me "bottled wisdom".

I mentioned the beauty of the pictures, yadda, yadda. Now get the fuck off my back. I don't "believe" that I am better than anyone else, nor do I promote that. I don't "wear a badge" of heritage, I am what I am, and that is all.

Good music...good photos...good message!

Lost a bit of respect when I saw the merchandising going on within the site though.

(Edited by Thumper on 01-13-2005 20:46)

Evangelist religion seems worse around here. They are *forced* to pay that 10% of your profits fee, in order to being accepted in the high Heavens, where not even other cristhian based religions will be in.

It's kind of much more sickening than this stuff.

edit: seems thumper ditched the part in his post i was responfing to
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(Edited by Alevice on 01-13-2005 20:52)

Yeah Alevice, I decided to avoid opening too huge a can of worms...

But you killed my post! GOD likes not you!





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Is it bad that I was in awe at the photography and totally ignoring the text?

This leaves me a message, a message that reminded me that the world is materialistic in just about everything. I am not materialistic and I am a Christian and found the message displayed touching. The words were wise and full of love and wisdom.

But as far as the photography, it took my breath away, literally.

Even though I plan not to buy anything, I think the money is for support for the website and quite possibly God honoring ministries.

I think these forums are full of silly people.

After reading through the thread, I had to check it out... My first thought: Apparently God doesn't use dial-up...

Once it came up, though...

The photography: excellent (can we do something to get the text out of there though? ... I've got a pet-peeve about throwing some bit of "wisdom" on top of a great piece of photography, "inspirational posters" are a great example, unless of course the text actually has something to do with the image, which is rarely the case)
The text/message: as Alevice mentioned above, too much like the hundreds of emails that all say the same thing and start: "Fwd: fwd: FWD: fwd: fwd: Fwd:"
The music: that same ~10 second loop got real old, real quick, and I found myself pushing the play button on my Flogging Molly cd not even halfway through it

Overall: I have to back WS and DL here. There are several other places to see great photography of landscapes without all the religious overtones. ... Not worth the time to download unless you want to rant on something.

The name associated with "The Interview" is "Morgan Westerman"...

Interesting enough, a google search for that name turns up a guy in jail in Utah wanted for credit card fraud in Tulsa, Oklahoma where I just happen live.


I doubt this is the same guy, but, ain't life ironic sometimes....


Makes one wonder...

Hello friends,

I am sorry if this has triggered what I didn't intend.
I wasn't trying to promote christianity, nor bring about a clash of opinions regarding religion.

Yes there are lots of things like it, yes it is not the best thing to be published on the web, yes they are selling stuff on behalf of this though, yes they are promoting christianity, etc.... But so what?!

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Elias

Quick run-down:

*click*
3 seconds: "Nice image..."
5 seconds: "Okaaay...."
5.5 seconds: "Nice images..."
6 seconds: "Ummm..."
2 days, 11 hours, 36 minutes and 52 seconds: "Huh? What? WHAT THE...?!?!?"


Well, there you have it. Coma-inducing crap.



I'm not going to mince my words for fear of offence, and I'm not getting into namby-pamby, bleeding-heart semantics or religious debate here. It is simple. I don't have to be "anti-Christian" to see this as yet another religiously-oriented con (as pointed out, just like so many spam-emails) prepped to divide a fool from his/her money. That's 'fool' as in 'a fool and his money' - I'm not Bible-Basher-bashing.

Faith and an overwhelming urge to throw money at random, sentimental, religion-oriented gimmicks don't have to be the same thing.

The piccies are... actually rather pleasant, the words are unoriginal tripe (though nauseatingly sweet) like cheap Greeting-card sentiments, and I could develop that plinky music into a fairly effective weapon of terror - half an hour of forced exposure, and a crowd would tear each other to pieces!

...but everything else about it was brilliant.

Really.



*ADDENDUM* On that Jerry Springer: The Opera thing - I don't have to be a Christian to find it offensive. I found it offensive simply because it was a great steaming pile of noxiously putrescent crap.

(Edited by White Hawk on 01-15-2005 05:53)

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WebShaman said:

Oh, how cute! A site that capitalises on God! It makes such a nice
gift - doesn't cost that much either. Go, Christians, go!

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You said it WS. Someone trying to make money off God again. *sigh*

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WebShaman said:

That is Christian all the way. So, I largely suspect that either the money is
going to Christians, or someone is using the Faith to make money (won't be the
first or last time).

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Dear God! No, WS it is not Christianity. This is not Christianity. This is about the grossest thing I have ever read in my entire life! Thank you for posting that WS.

The little movie thing was nice (sweet pics) but when it was happening I came upon two questions: 1.) where is Jesus? 2.) Is that all God has to say?

The first was answered after the movie: no where. Thus, WS, it is not Christian.

The second is kinda rhetorical. Is that all God has to say? That seems like too little to me. I may be over thinking things but if I had a dicussion with my Creator like that I would be disappointed!

Christians have (or are supposed to have) the firm belief that Christ is the Savior, the center of one's life, the only way to salvation. He is equal with the Father. In the quote you had they only used Jesus' name once, and hinted at Him a second time. That was only quoting Him about the Father! I am really sorry if I offend anyone, but I was really offended by such a misleading trap. It was so carefully disguised too. Thank you Webshaman.

Do not rebuke a mocker or he will hate you, rebuke a wise man and he will love you.