Topic: When Mad Scis reach their limits...

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

Woohooo first post! :P

Alright sorry about that!

Ini, I see your point about joining the OzoneAsylum and not anybody elses. From my small small point of view I don't udnerstand why there are Mad Scientists and MS's with finglongers, what's the point in being an MS?

But leaving doesn't sound like the right course of action, stay and fight, fight for what's right, fight the power it's time ot MC!

Besides are you sure you can request all your content to be deleted, isn't it partly owned by the asylum now? Forever held in the infinitum of the world wide web?

Good luck on your crusade!

Cheers,

Let me get this straight -

You gave information, and pretended to share it here? It was, in fact, not shared freely but conditionally?

I find that sad. It is certainly not along the lines of what Doc O established with HandsOn. I thought you wanted to create the equivalent with Java?

Don't you realize that sharing, freely giving, doesn't have strings attached?

Ok, well, Ini, what you decide is soley and alone your decision to make. No-one can take that right away from you. But maybe I can appeal to your reason - and you will overlook the small hurdles, to the bigger dream - a HandsOn version of Java.

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But I did never sign in to "TP's Asylum" nor "DL's Asylum", nor "Emperor's", just signed in to the Ozone Asylum
in deep respect for Doctor Ozone.

So, cast your vote before midnight: I am wanting to leave, bringing
my posts with me, all of them, all of my snippets, and all of my tutorial initiatives with me,
in protest to what I consider an abuse from TP.

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Please note that two of the people you are "barking" against are not even Mad Scientists.

Please also note that both of them chose to no longer be Mad Scientists, and did it without all this infantile melodrama, and without the threats of "taking our ball and going home".

We both made that choice, at seperate times and prompted by seperate things, out of respect for Doc and for this place.

If you truly and had respect for either Doc or this place, you'd stop all your sniveling and either shut up and leave, or let it go (or, hell, even face up to the fact that you're being a total ass for no conceivable reason...again....).

You have demonstrated that you do not have such respect.

Feel free to prove otherwise.

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

There was no censor ship, your information is still here and accessible to all.

TP deserves his privileges, and were he to remove the "with Finglongers" bit he would still have well more power, the whole distinction allows him to do things that he was able to do, but to do it easier, you can take away the whole finglongers thing and he would still have direct database access, and be able to do any of the things he is doing right now. That is the reason he is a MS above a MS isbecause he created the grail, he administrates the grail. TP now holds down the fort, and he does a damn good job of it, and that is why he has the privileges.

As for him closing your thread, it needed to be closed, and in the past, we (the mad scientists) have closed down many thread for similiar reasons. We have even closed threads for less serious things.

As for your origional arguement, even if you were right, you are now wrong.

If you are leaving, bye.

Dan @ Code Town

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

Wonder who's actually sinking at the moment...

The poster has demanded we remove all his contributions, less he takes legal action.
We have done so.
Now Tyberius Prime expects him to start complaining that we removed his 'free speech' since this message will replace all of his posts, past and future.
Don't follow his example - seek real life help first.

A rotten bloke like you? must be stinking big time. Not in a million years

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DL-44 said:

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InI said:
But I did never sign in to "TP's Asylum" nor "DL's Asylum", nor "Emperor's", just signed in to the Ozone Asylum
in deep respect for Doctor Ozone.

So, cast your vote before midnight: I am wanting to leave, bringing
my posts with me, all of them, all of my snippets, and all of my tutorial initiatives with me,
in protest to what I consider an abuse from TP.

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Please note that two of the people you are "barking" against are not even Mad Scientists.

Please also note that both of them chose to no longer be Mad
Scientists, and did it without all this infantile melodrama, and
without the threats of "taking our ball and going home".

We both made that choice, at seperate times and prompted by seperate things, out of respect for Doc and for this place.

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What Mr 44 said ^^^^^^^^^

By all means take a walk around outside but you've contributed so much here it would be a shame if you removed all your posts.

Part of the redesign was aimed at increased transparency so we actually knew who had what abilities - even if TP removed the finglongers from his name he'd still have full back end access and so the difference would be move back to a more opaque system. All admin actions are logged - if there is a complaint about an abuse of power (and I haven't actually seen such a complaint) we have it all logged.

Someone has to have a higher level of access and as TP has the full back end access it may as well be him - on a personal level I'm more than happy for TP to be the one with his hand on the tiller in the Doc's absence. However, its the Doc's house not TP's and he can't just do whatever he wants - we'd vote with our feet and leave or complain to the Doc and he'd have to sort it out or consign the place to the history books.

So we have transparency and accountability as I trust TP to do a good job (unless someone can show me that he isn't) that seems like an ideal setup.

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Emps

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if I went 'round saying I was an Emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!

how many times have you "threatened" to leave Ozone? I used to have a list of those post from you labeled "Ini's Diatribe"
I'd break it out now and again to have a good chuckle. I find it humorous.......

And why should anyone vote to keep you around? Sure, you may know a bit about Java and the like, but so do others here. What makes you so important?

People like you kill me. Sad world you live in where you have to be so dramatic around people on a forum. Sad, sad...

You'll threaten to leave and then come back, and then it all starts over again. Give it a rest.

Later,

C:\

oh boy .. I wont get involved in this topic .. due to it taking to much energy .. but I will only say this.....

InI .. by sharing your conversation with TP .. that was in private .. you have opened up a can of worms .. and most likely have made the situation worse off for yourself

.::. cEll .::. 513

*sighs deeply and closes his eyes as he prepares to say the last thing in this worthless thread before he relegates it to the Mad Sci's lab, where it belongs*

Before now I've stayed out of this at the request of TP, but now I will speak, becusae this has gone on for long enough.

InI, the policy of the Doc (whom you claim to respect) and this management of this board has always been thus:

We do not delete posts made by people wholesale

We do not delete accounts

Nothing is unforgiveable, we always leave the door open

Excpetions have been made to one, or all of these in the past, but those were rare and we needed alot of convincing, and I personally cannot see a reason for it to be done here, your attempts to bully TP into it over ICQ not withstanding. Your behaviour here alternates between insightful and arrogant, mature and childish, and helpful and downright abusive. Please note that I do read alot of the threads here, so I am quite familiar with your case history. Yes, sometimes people take the first jab at you, but in the majority of cases it is you who strikes first, then act all offended when someone strikes back, as if you somehow expect your opinion to be conclusive and leave people with nothing to say on the matter.

You protest your right to 'express your opinion' (whatever that may happen to be, and honestly, often you don't really have a point beyond some deep-seated need to lash out at anyone and everyone) yet, when someone wants to express their's right back at you, you seem to have a problem with this. Your statements, both here and in countless other threads are both immature and hypocritical, as well as being downright threatening. In this thread you, in fact, claimed that certain Mad Sci's abused their power, then turned right around and threatened to ban someone simply becuase you didn't like what they said. Can you not see the problem there? Can you not see that you are far too easily provoked, to the point where you decide to save other the trouble and just provoke yourself?

InI, you have a problem. I say this in all seriousness, as a person who suffers from depression and Panic Disorder. You have a problem and you need to seek help for it. Whether it's simply an anger-management thing, or if there's some deeper, underlying cause you need to seek help. I encourage you to contact me using the board's email system if you want to seek my advice on it, becuase I am willing to give all the help I can with it. I know what it's like to have a mental disorder, I live with it and fight against it each and every day of my life. Now please, leave this to lie and think about your actions carefully, and I hope you'll see the truth in what I'm saying, becuase I say it in all seriousness and with an outreaching hand, offering my help.

Now please... let this drop.

Everyone


Justice 4 Pat Richard

Edit: OK, one of the others will have to close and move this for me, becuase I'm encoutnering javascript bugs that are preventing me from doing it. I'll be reporting these later, until then, can someone else do it please?

(Edited by Skaarjj on 02-03-2005 17:35)