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From: 2 steps away from a los angeles curb
Insane since: Nov 2003

posted posted 01-19-2006 09:14

I know...
This is not necessarily a scripting thing....

However, seeing as the XP's floppy is snafu, and we have a mac to frustrate things...

I was wondering if there was a way to put a script or batch file on a CD to transport network info like with XP's network connection wizard does to a floppy.

The thre PC' play ok with dhcp most of the time but we consistently get an IP conflict halfway through the day.

Our lameness scale is set to maximum and we have sbc dsl coming in and then a wireless router connected to that. The XP and mac are on cable and the two 2000's are wireless.

Can someone direct me to a tutorial?

Or give some suggestions?

Just curious...

Thanks in advance!

Oh, btw if this is miscategorized can someone with finglongers move it to the appropriate section?

Thanks again!

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Skaarjj
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From: :morF
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 01-19-2006 10:33

Which computer is acting as your DHCP server? See, what I think may be happening, if you don't have a DHCP server, is that Windows is attempting to query the server and, once it times out, it's grabbing its default subnet masks and just running with them. This is a 'feature' I know was built into XP, but I'm not sure about 2000. It's not really a feature. It's stupidity, but, there you go. It's all in the name of holding the user's hand as much as possible.


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From: Sthlm, Sweden
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 01-19-2006 12:56

I network OSX, Debian, w98, XP home & XP Pro at home over wifi.
No problems, but then again, my router is the only one that acts as DHCP

I had a shitload of troubles when I tried to use one winblows machine for this instead of a dedicated router.

Even if you think you only have one DHCP machine, double check that no other machine tries to act as one, if you have 2 DHCP servers on the same net there will be conflicts

then:

quote:

It's not really a feature. It's stupidity, but, there you go.


Wasn't that windows in general...
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WebShaman
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From: Happy Hunting Grounds...
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posted posted 01-19-2006 13:15

Correct me if I am wrong, but...why not just go with Static IP addresses?

Wouldn't that get rid of any conflicts?

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brucew
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From: North Coast of America
Insane since: Dec 2001

posted posted 01-19-2006 23:19

You know, the title of this thread sounds like a joke.

An XP, a Mac and two 2000's walk into a bar...

Skaarjj
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From: :morF
Insane since: May 2000

posted posted 01-20-2006 02:39

The two 2000's drink all night long and only falter occassionally, the Mac is made up really pretty, and built like a brick latrine underneath, and the XP falls over when it looks at a beer?


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From: 2 steps away from a los angeles curb
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posted posted 01-20-2006 06:08

What happens if I set one PC up to be dhcp and it gets turned off?

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Skaarjj
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From: :morF
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posted posted 01-20-2006 14:50

Then there's no DHCP service being provided anymore. What I would probably suggest is a dedicated DHCP device, like a little 8port layer-3 switch.

Like this: http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?childpagename=US%2FLayout&packedargs=c%3DL_Product_C2%26cid%3D1123638171675&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper


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From: The South Pacific
Insane since: Jan 2001

posted posted 01-20-2006 16:08

Okay, UC, let's break down the problem:

You want to network 3 PCs and a Mac.
You have DHCP problems on the PCs.

Is that a good summary? (I'm not trying to be sarcastic, I just want to be clear on what the issues are.)

Now, you mentioned that you have SBC coming into a wireless router. I am going to assume that this router is the DHCP server since neither Windows XP or 2000 have DHCP enabled out of the box.

All you have to do, is set each computer (Mac and PC) for DHCP. Then they will all be able to talk to each other without any problems. This should solve your problems assuming that this is the case.

One thing to mention is to NOT EVER setup DHCP on Windows unless you know what you are doing. Trust me on this one.

As far as networking, what type of networking are you talking about? If you're looking to serve files over your LAN, the PCs are easy enough and the Mac just needs to enable SMB shares. If you're talking about gaming, as long as they're on the same subnet (which they should be if they're all grabbing DHCP addresses from the same place), then most games will automatically discover sessions on their own subnet.

If you just want them all to get on the internet, then again setting them to grab DHCP addresses from the router is the simplest solution.

If you need clarification on any of these points please let me know. If my post is a bit pedantic, please feel free to let the fish fly.

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posted posted 01-20-2006 20:26

No problems with the pedantry...

I have a dlink dl-624 wireless router.

Each pc is set to grab dhcp on its own.

But, I get error messages and ip conflict connectivity problems from time to time.

My only solutions so far ahve been to bring up a dos window and do ipconfig /renew

It works... temp.

For some reason the pc's are all trying to grab the same IP... i think.

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DmS
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From: Sthlm, Sweden
Insane since: Oct 2000

posted posted 01-20-2006 21:31

In my old dlink router I had the option to tie IP's to mac adresses.
That should solve any ip conflicts, yes/no?
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UnknownComic
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From: 2 steps away from a los angeles curb
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posted posted 01-21-2006 00:25

oh, huh, how do I do that?

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