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So... we have a company intranet - and windows file search just ain't cutting it anymore...

Maybe some of you have some suggestions to make on what software to use

We have:
-Half a dozen file shares - all with strict permission for the individual user groups.
-a groupware in a mysql database that idealy should be indexed
-a grail based wiki...

We need a search solution that
-at least covers the file shares. That means Doc, PDF, HTML, XLS, Textfiles of all colors, respecting the permissions!
-that idealy would be hackable to integrate both the groupware and our wiki
-and of course's supposed to be somewhere between cheap and free.
-is ideally accessible with any decent webbrowser

Now, if I had to guess, I'd say we have around 5000 documents - nothing too overwhelming.

So who has used something like this in the past?
What have been your experiences?

Glad to hear from you,

->Tyberius Prime

Hi TP, I have recently heard of Google Intranet Search. I don't know what it's worth and you have to give details to get information, but it might be worth a try... Apparently they use the same technology than the one for their Internet search, which might be interesting.
Hope this helps a bit.

(Edited by kimson on 01-19-2006 15:56)

hehe. yeah, the google search engine might probably fullfill all your requirements, just that it is probably not "somewhere between cheap and free".

edit: also check out this: http://www.google.co.uk/enterprise/mini/index.html

(Edited by GRUMBLE on 01-19-2006 15:59)

Yeah, the google Enterprise boxes will do all that - I'm certain. (and hey, they start at £21,000 ! that's basically a give away)

The free google desktop of course failes on 'respect file permissions - don't show users results they can't access'.

With a bit of further digging, I stumbled over Swish-E - which seems flexible enough to do all I'd want...
but it's going to be work ;-(

(Edited by Tyberius Prime on 01-19-2006 16:01)

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Tyberius Prime said:

The free google desktop of course failes on 'respect file permissions - don't show users results they can't access'.

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What do you mean by this? I think if you use the Enterprise Mini version (GRUMBLE's link), this should not be an issue.... or am I wrong? And it is actually £1,995 ! Now that is a give away...

Yeah, you're probably right. The Enterprise Mini version does this - and the 21k is a bigger box.

But 2k pounds is still... nearly three thousand euros.... argh.

Well, I guess you can see this as an investment... I mean, it will almost certainly save the employees in your company a lot of time, and hopefully you will not have to make similar purchase ever after... Providing you never go over 100.000 files of course (which is quite a gamble)...
Then again, you might get discount on the mamoth version if you appear to need it eventually, who knows?

[edit] jeez, it looks like I am actually selling it... no worries, I do not work for Google [/edit]

(Edited by kimson on 01-19-2006 17:22)

But, still, it sounds like whatever you're running as a search tool fro mthe user's perspective needs to run with their permissions. If they don't have read access to a file or a directory they can't get to that file, thus the search program won't be able to get to it.


Justice 4 Pat Richard

Ok... I've gotten swish-e to be up and running and integrated into our local grail.
A breeze to set up, honestly, even with a little script that dumps out our wiki for the indexer.

Total time needed: 2:15. Which means less than a hundred euros - compared to the google solution which takes 2 grand plus setup...

The permission problem is still missing - but actually there's just a few access restricted folders in this company and I simply don't index them right now ;-).

Skaarjj: In theory, you can ask windows wether user xyz has the right to file abc... but in practice, in PHP this is going to be bothersome ;-)

Definately not as easy as, say, a *nix environment where you can ask it for file permissions and display based on that...


Justice 4 Pat Richard