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Oh dear; it looks as though this is degenerating. That was predictable. I for one, would like to express my support for WS and DL in this argument. The only problem is that I see you both falling into the trap of arguing with those who will simply not see reason. You put it quite succinctly with that analogy, WS, in that it is like a child clapping her hands over her ears - and you really should know by now that nothing is gained by arguing with those who simply refuse to see logic. AND it is all about logic. The nature and definition of science are inarguable; the course of scientific understanding is based upon experimentation, observation and reproduceability. Faith, on the other hand, is a question of... well... faith. The problem here is that faith, rendered unshakeable by indoctrination, dictates a selective logic; encouraging the blank denial of anything that questions its foundation. You cannot argue logically, when even 'logic' itself is an ethereal concept to those with whom you argue. While you demonstrate an admirable capacity for critical thought, WS, you really do seem to fall into the trap of assuming that others may also be capable of it. As for the "you're all dumb" comment, Arthemis; surely you meant "you're all heretics"!? I have Henry VIII to thank for giving my country's people an early chance to evolve intellectually and socially. I can only imagine what sort of oppressed and ignorant state I would have grown up in if it hadn't been for his landmark separation of church and state. Of course, with arguments such as these reaching a level of open debate in governmental authority (albeit, in the US), it seems that social and scientific progress are destined to take a step or two backward. Sorry if I'm trolling too. :p
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