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Your Text: Insert Slimies » Insert UBB Code » Close Last Tag \| All Tags UBB Help	Suho..I have been terribly busy putting out many small fires and then one huge one. What a relief. ...forgive me for not responding sooner. [quote]How could she consider to just forsake those who are not in a communion. Is this an official position? [/quote] Yes.. The official position of the chruch is that she will NEVER forsake those who are not in communion for whatever reason. Though separated, all the community of the Christ believers are one in the Spirit. This is also based in our holy scriptures. "One body, one spirit, one Lord, one faith, one baptism; One God and Father of all. Ephesians 4:46" We are obliged to believe and to maintain that the Church is one, holy, catholic, and also apostolic going all the way back 2000 years to Peter as our first leader. We believe in her firmly and we confess with simplicity that outside of her there is neither salvation nor the remission of sins, as the Spouse in the Canticles (Sgs 6:8) proclaims: 'One is my dove, my perfect one. She is the only one, the chosen of her who bore her,' and she represents one sole mystical body whose Head is Christ and the head of Christ is God (1 Cor 11:3). In her then is one Lord, one faith, one baptism [Eph 4:5]. There had been at the time of the deluge only one ark of Noah, a protype of prefiguring the one Church, which ark, having been finished to a single cubit, had only one pilot and guide, Noah, and we read that, outside of this ark, all that subsisted on the earth was destroyed. [quote]Oh, one more question: what is the current thinking on the infallibility of the pope?[/quote]Papal infallibility is defined when that the Pope speaks on matters in dogma of faith and morals ex cathedra (that is, officially), does not have the possibility of error.All Catholics must believe in the infallibility of the Pope. This is defined dogma. Unfortunately many Catholics do not understand this teaching. Almost no non-Catholics understand it. First point is that infallibility does NOT mean impeccability. In other words, the charism of infallibility does not make the Pope any more holy than anyone else. A Pope can be corrupt and still be infallible.Second point is that infallibility applies only to matters of faith and morals. Thus, if the Pope's opinion is that apples are better than oranges, this is not infallible. Third point is that the charism of infallibility does not make the Pope automatically correct on other matters. Thus, if the Pope were to say that 1 + 1 = 5 or that the world is flat he would be wrong. Mathematics and science are not about faith and morals and thus the Pope's charism of infallibility does not apply. So what is the charism of infallibility? The first hints to the charism of infallibility come from the words of Jesus in Matthew 23:2-3. In this passage Jesus is telling the he must be obeyed. Per our Teachings, the Papacy itself did not start with the Catholic Church. It goes all the way back to Adam in the Garden of Eden. The word Pope means "father" and "father" is a term that was used in ancient times to refer to a Prime Minister (see Isaiah 22:21). God has ALWAYS had a Magisterial Prime Minister (representative of the King) on this planet. His first such representative was Adam. With each Covenant God established a visible administrator (Prime Minister). At the time of Jesus, the Prime Ministry in place was the CHAIR OF MOSES. The High Priest and the Pharisees were the Magisterium. What the Mosaic "pope" taught had to be obeyed (Mt 23:2-3 When the New Covenant was put in place by Jesus, he established a new "chair" of authority, just like had been done under the Old Covenant. The old chair of authority was established under Moses. The new chair of authority was established under Peter. Christ made this appointment himself in Matthew 16:18-19. This is NOT about merely the faith of Peter, this is about appointing Peter the First Prime Minister of the New Covenant. The proof of this is that Jesus quoted Isaiah 22:22. The passages in Isaiah 22 are about the secession of the Office of Prime Minister. The King is the King, but a King has his administrator, the Prime Minister. The Prime Minister is given the keys to the kingdom and given the authority to bind or loose. God is not so cruel as to leave us without a definitive way to know the faith. When opinions differ about theological issues the buck must stop somewhere. There must be a way to settle theological disputes in a defined way. Otherwise we cannot ever know for sure what the Faith is. God establishes his "supreme court" in his magisterium founded upon the CHAIR of authority for each Covenant He has made with Man. That was the CHAIR OF MOSES, now it is the CHAIR OF PETER. Without this authority to absolutely settle differences of opinion, the Church would be splintered into thousands of factions with each faction having its opinion about the faith that varies with other faction's opinion of the faith. The charism of infallibility requires three things: 1) The Pope must be speaking as the universal Paster, from the CHAIR; 2) the issue must be on faith and morals 3) the teaching must apply to the whole Church and not to just part of the church A document from the Pope, even authoritative, about the celibacy of priests, for example, is not infallible as that is a disciplinary issue, not an issue of faith and morals. I might add here that no pope can declare women to be priests because that is an infallible teaching of the Church and does relate to the faith as taught specifically by Jesus and his apostles.And finally, the teaching must apply to the whole church, East and West. THE Charism of Infallibility is a gift from God to ensure that the Faith remains on course. It is an assurance that personal opinions do not stray the Church away from that which is fundamentally required for belief, that which defines are central identity as Christians. God would be cruel indeed if He did not provide a way for us to KNOW for certain what the faith is or is not.This charism is guaranteed by the Holy Spirit. At no time in the history of the Church has this infallibility ever been broken. No pope, no matter how corrupt has ever violated or changed infallible doctrine. Remember just relating our beliefs, not trying to change anyone's opinion On anoter note I wonder DL or Web if you attended this : http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200710/CUL20071003a.html I wonder of if this Athiest cult in the making will make a headway in achieveing its means for you guys. Probably not. Religions are here to stay. Loading...
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