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Your Text: Insert Slimies » Insert UBB Code » Close Last Tag \| All Tags UBB Help	@jade Temperature is just a measure of the linear momentum (velocity and mass) and collision rate of particles. It's completely relative because you must have something for them to collide with. So there's nothing special with someone saying a big BOOM made them all go around with the same kinetic energy. It kinda falls into place. ;) @webshaman I can't believe i'm getting myself into these affairs again.. -_- -----Okay, let's take the idea, instead of the theory.---- Let's look at a [b]car[/b]. What makes the [b]car[/b]? Well, LOT'S OF THINGS! Thermodynamics, mechanics, materials science, animals that died and became oil, etc. You look at a [b]car[/b] and immediately you see that it was [b]created[/b]? Well, the [b]car[/b] wasn't exactly [b]created[/b]. It was put together. It was worked on. What was created was the need to move faster. And that was what created the [b]car[/b]. Like Webshaman in an above post said, [i]A->B does not imply C[/i]. Well, no, lot's of things could have created a car. But the [b]idea[/b] of the car, does not precede the[b] car[/b] itself, that's the bottom line. This is shown in this Argument between Plato and Diogenes: [quote]Plato was discoursing on his theory of ideas and, pointing to the cups on the table before him, said while there are many cups in the world, there is only one `idea' of a cup, and this cupness precedes the existence of all particular cups. "I can see the cup on the table," interupted Diogenes, "but I can't see the `cupness'". "That's because you have the eyes to see the cup," said Plato, "but", tapping his head with his forefinger, "you don't have the intellect with which to comprehend `cupness'." Diogenes walked up to the table, examined a cup and, looking inside, asked, "Is it empty?" Plato nodded. "Where is the `emptiness' which procedes this empty cup?" asked Diogenes. Plato allowed himself a few moments to collect his thoughts, but Diogenes reached over and, tapping Plato's head with his finger, said "I think you will find here is the `emptiness'." [/quote] Funny, non? :) Well, i know i'm going a bit fast, and lack some cleanness in what i'm writing, but try to stay with me a bit longer. Now, we know all things go through a design process. The word [i]design[/i], here means [b]purposefulness[/b]. After that purposefulness is fulfilled, then the idea appears. We also know [b]Evolution is blind[/b]. It can't see a "purpose". But it fulfills these purposes all the time. By being redundant, by being error prone, by trial. But it doesn't guess. It can't conceive or imagine. So, it is plausible to assume, that if you can find something complex, made of functional parts such that you, the observer, can see that those parts must have been "imagined" together for them to work. For them to fulfill a purpose. Then you can also wonder who or what "imagined" them. Not "created". There is this difference between advocates of intelligent design and creationists. Creationists try to look for God through the extreme perfection and complication of things. ID tries to look for some inert "consciousness" in the most simple of very simple things, in that they are too well adjusted to one purpose to have been created by mere chance. In other words, ID proposes there is an irreducible factor in simplicity. A complexity which cannot be separated into its composing parts. I would like to carry on. But i don't trust myself to be more clearer than i have been. I only wrote this because of webshaman's post. DL-44 argumentation was pure decorum. [small](Edited by [url=http://www.ozoneasylum.com/user/1639]Arthemis[/url] on 11-27-2007 09:07)[/small] [small](Edited by [url=http://www.ozoneasylum.com/user/1639]Arthemis[/url] on 11-27-2007 09:15)[/small] Loading...
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