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I stated that one of the [i]properties[/i] of Evolution is random change, not that Evolution only consists of it! I will refrain from ad hominem remarks in this case (sorry about that), but in return, please refrain from putting words in my mouth. [quote]You have conviently left out that an environment exerts pressures that are favorable to certain conditions (meaning that, for example, in water, if you have a streamlined form, you will have more efficient movement than the opposite, which gives an advantage above and beyond a form that is in every other way similar except for being streamlined). A streamlined body isn't a good thing by itself. Randomness only, cannot justify it. What will justify the streamlined body, is the benefits it begets, and if it can beget them. But no planning towards it, or to those benefits is ever made.[/quote] Did you read everything that I posted? I did not say it was a good thing by and of itself - there was a comparison done. [quote]That means that a random change that gives a form more streamlined attributes than another that is at home in water, for example, will have an advantage.[/quote] [quote]You have a tendency to use the "if i prove the other guy is wrong, then i am right" debate strategy.[/quote] :confused: No, I am going along the lines of what is actually scientifically sound or not. I could care less if I am right or wrong. I hope to be accurate. As for this [quote]As the emergence of a flagellum could not be explained by evolution.[/quote] I suggest reading these : [url=http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/behe.html]Irreducible Complexity and Michael Behe[/url] and [url=http://www.talkdesign.org/faqs/icdmyst/ICDmyst.html]Irreducible Complexity Demystified[/url] All from here - [url=http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/faqs-qa.html]Talk Origins FAQs[/url] [url=http://faq.ozoneasylum.com/397/]WebShaman[/url] | [i]The keenest sorrow (and greatest truth) is to recognize ourselves as the sole cause of all our adversities. - Sophocles[/i] [small](Edited by [url=http://www.ozoneasylum.com/user/925]WebShaman[/url] on 11-28-2007 13:30)[/small]
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